Preview Printer Profile

Is there a technical reason why LR can/should not allow a quick preview of an image in Develop Module for a particular printer profile? I send my photos to Costco (having no printer connected to my PC) who kindly supply printer profiles for their photo printers. Little ol' Paintshop Pro lets you do a quick preview in their color management module -- why not LR? I wonder if there is a technical reason why LR doesn't and, if so, I look forward to being educated. If there is no good reason then I suggest it is unreasonable to have to print to a PDF in LR just to see what a physical print is likely to present.
For the record, I'm a hobbyist photographer and, while I do have some technical sophistication (engineering and computer science), I'm not a photo professional. And, yes, I have seen the other threads on this topic -- but they are so long that I expect this message would have been lost.

It is called Soft Proofing and much requested. Just not there yet. Too many other fires, to date.
No one has lost sight of Soft Proofing. It will come in time. Adobe only knows when.
Don
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Hi. I was surprised and happy to see a list of print profiles in the Preview program where you can "soft proof" an image file. Is there any way to add additional print profiles for soft proofing?
Thanks!
Message was edited by: Randy Allen

Put the ICC file in this folder:
~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/

Printer profile not there and brings into preview

When I go to print, the printer profile for my Epson is not in the list. I know it's not on the computer, why is it not on the CS5 list?
Then I click print and it print the image into Preview instead of printing on the epson. Why is that? thanks!

charles badland wrote:
If the profiles are in the ./Library /Color Sync /Profiles folder—and if they are compatible with the combination of inks and paper you're using—Photoshop will see them. If they are not, Photoshop won't.
Be sure to look HARD DRIVE>Library>Color Sync>Profiles folder and not the USER>Library>Color Sync>Profiles.
That tripped me up a bit a few weeks back.
That's what the convention dot slash ./ means, the Root Level, as opposed to the tilde ~ which stands for the User Library.

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Hi,
I hope someone can help!
I recently bought my first Mac, a great MacBook Pro which I love!
I use Lightroom3 and Photoshop CS5 to edit photos and now want to print from my Epson R1800.
I found that the prints initially came off very dark & contrasty, so I calibrated both the MBP screen and my Samsung SuncMaster 245B monitor with my Spyder2 and the Colorvision software.
Even after establishing colour profiles for both screens, the printed image was still far darker and "heavier" than that shown on screen. This was the same whether printing from LR3 or from the Mac Preview app (it was worth trying I thought!).
So searching for help on the web I came across this thread and now wonder whether I should uninstall my driver (6.57) and reinstall the printer with 6.23.
Stephen did you find that this worked - did PS CS5 behave after that?
Of course I'm trying to print some work soon and in desperation could adjust every (edited) image by brightening & reducing contrast, however with dozens to print it seems crazy to do that, not to mention wrong!
Thanks for any help!
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BUG(?): background color not in print profile

When printing a photo from Lightroom 3 with paper background color this color is not corrected for printing, although I print with icc, print profile from Spyderprint. The photo itself is corrected. This means that the paper backround is colored instead of gray, for example.
Is this a bug? I think so, because I there is no way I can change this.
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Hello CameraHans (are you Dutch, by the way?)
The whole border or sheet has a color cast. The photo itself has not. Both are in greys, so I will do as you suggested and look what happens when I do this in colors.
I will insert 3 screenshots, 2 of the Lightroom environment, and 1 of the print preview, I used here the 'contour' to show the effect. You can very well see that the color of the border does not change at all, Thanks, Hans van den Berg

Epson print profile problem. Prints overexposed.

I am doing something wrong so here it goes. I was printing on Epson semi gloss paper and all was fine. I switched to Epson Premium Glossy paper, switch to what I think is the proper printing profile according to the Epson website, but now when I print all my photos are overexposed. On the screen they look fine. I have tried to adjust using Aperture but it appears I cannot adjust enough to make a difference. My printer is an Epson R2400, I believe all my drivers are up to date, as well as my Mac software. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I am pretty sure there is a bug in Aperture, because I can get perfect prints from Preview or almost any other app, but with Aperture 2.1.1 and Mac OS X 10.5.5, my colors are off. Note, my problem is prints are too dark, not too light, and my prints from Aperture have a green cast.
After struggling with this for a while, I think I have a work around. I posted it here: http://blogs.oreilly.com/aperture/2008/06/printing-tips.html. Copied below, for your convenience. I hope it helps.
C. B. Edgar wrote:
I am using a Epson R1900 (which is a huge improvement from my Epson Stylus Photo 870). I have a calibrated display, and colors are on very good on the display.
I use the latest printer driver from Epson. NOT the Gutenprint, gimp, or cups print drivers. I tried those, and was not pleased.
Here is my workflow and settings.
Select Print (image, book, whatever) to get the printer dialog. Select your printer. Then (this is important), select ColorSync Profile = SystemManaged.
Now, hit the print setting button. Select the driver specific setting from the pop-up menu. On an Epson, it is called "Print Settings". Then select your paper type, color= color, 16bits, color settings= 'Off (No Color Adjustment)', print quality, and speed. If you have advanced settings, check those. My advanced setting tells me the name of my colorsync profile. Very handy if you are going to calibrate your printer for different papers.
Now everything is set up. It should print fine. But is doesn't. At least in Aperture. So, hit Preview in the main print dialog box. That should send a PDF temporary file to Preview. In Preview, select print. Now do all the settings again.
In Preview, there is a "Color Matching" setting on the popup menu. Select Color Matching, ColorSync (as opposed to EPSON Color Controls). I select profile "Automatic" which gives the same profile noted above under advanced settings.
Now, finally, you can print. And the prints look great.
From any application besides Aperture, the colors are so good on the print, I did not even bother to calibrate the printer. The stock profiles are perfect. Using the work around above, I also get excellent color.
Using Aperture, with either the colorsync profile selected in Aperture, or using System Managed, I get poor results. Too dark with a green cast. But by sending the print to Preview first, I am able to work around the bug.

Pre 1.4.1 Print profile choosing behavior back in LR2

Well I see the released version of LR2 has the exact same behavior when choosing printer profiles as pre 1.4.1 did. You guys are a real price of work. What the h___ were you thinking?
At least the workaround changing the colorsync profile in the colorsync utility still works but of course limits you to just a few paper choices.
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> I am now finding exclamation points on a bunch of different preview images
> throughout the whole catalog
I have a PC and am not familiar with LR on the Mac, but I too had many
problems and appear to have made progress by removing the previews and
building them again. I thought I had done this already, but perhaps I
stepped on them with 1.4.1 by accident. In any case, I deleted the previews
again and am rendering them again. After a few hours, 9,552 previews have
been rendered, with about 37,000 to go. The rate of progress looks
reasonable. I don't want to do too much during this large number of
renders, but it appears as though I can navigate the images with relative
speed. I'll hit everything harder when the renders are done, but I'm
optimistic this time.
Bottom line. Try deleting your previews and see if that helps.
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HELP snow leopard upgrade *MISSING PRINTER PROFILES*

I recently upgraded to snow leopard and since then I have not been able to use my normal printer profiles in Photoshop CS (don't laugh, I like CS).
I used to be able to select "Print with Preview" and then under 'Print Space:' then 'Profile' I could select either Epson Photo Paper Glossy or Epson Premium Luster. After the upgrade there are no Epson Profiles and only generic selections which cause prints to be way off colorwise and intensity.
Please help. Snow Leopard has been nothing but a huge headache ever since I upgraded.

You'll need to install the most recent print drivers. Are you in the US? Go to epson.com and make sure you install all the suggested Epson updates such as the Common Updates.

Preview Color Profile Info

I know it's got to be there but I cannot find a way to show the embedded color profile information in Lightroom. I tried LIbrary View Options and Prefernces. Also tried a search in the Help area as well as as search in this forum.
Can someone help? :-)
Linda

Phil,
If I understand you right, yes. I'll say it back to make sure.
I start by processing all my images and often do additional enhancements in Photoshop, all in the Adobe RGB color space. Once I'm done with the core processing, I then will have different folders with different images and their profiles.
One will be a folder of web images in the sRGB colors space. Another folder will contain images with a particular printer profile that is embedded for output. If I use my own printer they will contain the Canon i9900 profile. If it's an outside printer the images will have that printer's profile.
When I open images in Lightroom I want to know if Lightroom is giving me a preview that is consistent with the embedded profile.
I also would like to be able to have the option to see what profile is embedded.
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How do you use an outside Lab ICC Printer Profile in PSE 12?

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Thanks MichelBParis. I must be getting old (I'm 78) and I completely missed that when I was in Dry Creek Photo. In fact that is where I get all of my ICC Printer Profiles from when I'm using either Lightroom or Photoshop CS. What I'm doing is tutoring a friend on the use of PSE-12 (although I do own a copy for my own use) and I was trying to set him up to use ICC Printer Profiles and avoid letting the labs do "Automatic Color Adjust). I had many images ruined in the past just because the lab did an automatic color adjust until an operator schooled me on what was happening. I'm now a part time photographer and I never send an image to be printed without first making sure I have an applicable ICC Printer Profile embedded. and request the lab to turn off their automatic color adjustment.
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Printer profiles in templates

I've just spent most of the afternoon trying to resolve a problem.
My question is does any one know if the printer profile in " User Templates" overrides the one selected in the image settings column.
The reason I ask is that I've been trying to match 2 print sizes in LR without much success. The smaller ones match the screen but the larger one's don't. Both were printed from my own designed templates.Nothing complicated just some custom sizes. Switching to CS3 I printed the larger prints and got a perfect match.
In frustration I used one of the LR print templates to see what would happen. Guess what I got the match I was looking for.
Not wishing to make the mistake again I deleted the offending template before it occurred to me to check the profile associated with it.
Regrettably I couldn't check what printer profile was included, hence my question

When you print from iPhoto you can select the paper type, such as Archival Matt, and that Epson profile will be used. The Epson R300 Standard is merely a description of the printer you are using. This is the same behavior as in Photoshop. Where you might see a difference is in the way Photoshop displays the image on screen, based on your monitor profile and color settings. iPhoto is not really using a source profile for display purposes, other than the camera sRGB (assuming you're using a digital camera that uses sRGB. So if you edit an image in iPhotobrightness, contrast, etc) it may apper different on screen and cause you to make changes that will result in a unsatisfactory print.

Unable to load icm printer profiles in Lightroom 5

I am unable to access correctly loaded RGB printer profiles in Lightroom 5.
In the print module when color management profile "Other" is selected no loaded profiles appear; and Lightroom usually freezes.
Using Photoshop v6 on same computer I can access all loaded printer profiles. I have reloaded LR5.
Does anyone have a solution or work-around for this problem?

The "Include Display Profiles" checkbox is at the bottom of the list that comes up if you click "Other..." in the Lightroom Print Job panel. If this is the point where Lightroom freezes you won't get to it of course. So then the question is what prevents Lightroom from loading that list? Maybe someone else has suggestions, so hang on for a while.
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i own an epson 4000 pro printer when i go to the print tab of lightroom i cannot set printer profiles.

I am having great difficulty with printer (Epsom Stylus r320) colour reproduction...what I see on my calibrated screen does not appear true on the printed paper image....I have tried to download various ICC profiles from Epsom but they all (5 of them) give too dark an image...compensating in the develop module sort of helps, but it destroys the whole idea of the WYSIWYG aspect of working in Lightroom....any hints out there for this dilemma?
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Printer Profiles in Lightroom 4

I have a Mac Mini and Lightroom 4. I downloaded printer profiles from a local lab but don't know how to get Lightroom to recognize them for soft proofing and printing.

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Help not locating printer profile

2. Re: How to install Epson ICC profiles using Photoshop CC?
Mark Goodwin LRPS Aug 28, 2014 4:14 PM
I had a problem and needed to upload a HP Printer Profile.I down loaded it from the site then opened and placed in the Mac: Library/ColourSync/Profiles folder. I then restarted the computer and restored PS CC separately. I was able to find the profile under the View>Custom> drop down and select it. But when I came to the print stage the profile was not to be found in PD Print. I also trued installing the profile via Username/Library?ColourSync?Profile folder. But still no luckHelp please?
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I thought I had solved the problem when I came across a new HP App that specifically claimed to solve the problem people were having with iPrint: "HP ePrint Home & Biz", but that does not work either. It gets as far as registering the App but then will not complete the verification (just will not open HP ePrintercenter.com). But in that case I think the problem is that my printer (Photosmart C7280) does not have the eprint capability. But it IS listed as compatible with the iPrint App (http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/ePrint-Print-Apps-Mobile/hp-iprint-app-help-not-finding-printer/m-p/827... )
Must I give up?

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