Price differences and GR/IR

Hi
A question on price differences.
We currently post our price differences at goods receipt (PO price - Std price).
And secondly at invoice receipt (PO price - Actual price)
In order to be able to analyze easier, we want to post goods receipts always against standard price.
At invoice receipt the full price differences should be posted then.
Does anyone know if and how this setting is possible in SAP ?
Thanks.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure if this can be done. I just wanted to point out that you may wish to reconsider doing this as some of your receipts would not have variances recognized until a month or so after the original goods receipt. If the terms are net 30 (or whatever), the invoice would not be paid for 30 days and the variance wouldn't be recorded until the invoice is paid. The idea behind using the PO Expected Price is to book the amount as close to 'actual' as possible upon receipt of the goods.

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Hi gurus,
Please tell me that, when system will hit Price Difference Accounts and Revaluation Accounts???
Thank YOu

Hi Gverma
Please note that price difference would happen on the following
1) If there is a difference between your PO and Invoice price, because GR/IR posting would always happen on PO price only, when you do the invoice verification and there is a differnce, system would post to the price difference to the extent of stock cosnumed ( if you have stock then system would post to inventory account)
2) regarding revlauation account, when there is difference in your Standard cost estimate with previous month, system posts the difference between current SCE and previous month SCE on the stock.
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I got the explanation from forum :
The price variance differences are posted per purchased item which are used in making the material to be sold. this difference rolls to the COS line, but not the COGS account.
May I know what is the difference of cost of goods sold and cost of sales. Both also cost, cost of goods sold is inventory turned to cost upon goods sold whereas cost of sales, to me, can be indirect cost.
Any help to further explain of COS in relation to price variance?
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In SAP there is a concept of COGS, but there is no concept of COS.. COS is more of a accounting terminology,... There are different schools of thought on COS/... Some companies treat COS = COGS + Selling overhead...
With Material Ledger, the variances of components purchased can be rolled up to the Header Material which consumes them.... If this header mat is consumed in further processes, the consumption can also be revaluated.... Going So on and so forth, you can also revaluate the COGS of the final material....
Simply said, when variances are rolled up, you can revaluate the inventory... If the inventory is consumed before revaluation, then you can revaluate Consumption / COGS....
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goods receipt against purchase order
inventory a/c    dr
   gr/ir clearing a/c    cr
if there is any quantity & price difference in between PO and GR ex- PO order -1000 bags @ rs 10 but good receipt 900 @ Rs 10
then how the price difference and quantity diference treated in sap
what will be the entries, how we adjust it.
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kindly note that depending on the Moving average or standard price (price control flag in mm01) the difference will either get adjusted with the material or to the price difference account accordingly.
in the example for standard price
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dr stock 100
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Hi Sapients,
Please solve the production issue which we have faced yesterday while doing month end closing
In one P.O 4 items are there,User has posted entries in below sequence
Material type is TRADING GOODS
1)first MIRO with QTY 10 @100$ each,Later
2)MIGO has done with QTY 10 @100$
Raw Material account -
1000$
to GR/IR CLEARING ACCOUNT -
1000$
2)User has reverse the MIRO transaction with QTY 10 @ 100$ each.(with refer to step1)
3)Finally he post MIRO with QTY 10 @ 90$ each, so here ther is no qty variance has come only price variance has come, so when posting the difference is not going to price difference and the entry is paasing like this
GR/IR CLEARING ACCOUNT -
900$
TO Vendor 900$
If u see in step 2 GR/IR having 1000$, but in step 3 while MIRO posting GR/IR as 900$ so for the remaing balance 100$ not going to price variance .I Belive the entry in step will be like this
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1000$
TO Vendor 900$
TO Price difference 100$.
Kindly give solution why it is not going to price difference it was happening only for item 2 & 3 only for 40 iem it is posting correctly to price difference account.Please advice me why system behavig differently for each item.
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YSR

Hi Padmasri,
Thanks for your explanation. Ok. if the price is maintained in S, does that mean the price difference would get posted only to PRD. In other words, if price indicator is V, is that the only time when the price difference gets posted to stock account. In case if there is no sufficient stock or if there is negative stock at that time, that's when the amount would get posted to stock loss or gain account. Please suggest if I've understood the concept right.
Hi,
The PRD will trigger when the standard price maintained in the material mater record is different from the price in MIGO . The other chance is the material is maintained with MAP and MIRO done before GR ,The value of the quntity (not available in stock )
will get posted to PRD. I hope this will resolve your issue. Thanking you
You had suggested: The other chance is the material is maintained with MAP and MIRO done before GR ,The value of the quntity (not available in stock ) will get posted to PRD. I hope this will resolve your issue.
You are right: I forgot to mention that the price indicator is V. The other point is we purchase the materials from an internal vendor, as and when the materials are dispatched from the main storehouse in Sri Lanka, there is an advice that is created in the system and that is interfaced and parked in the system. However, normally until the GR is done IV will not happen. But there could be a chance, as the advice gets created within 24 hours. However the material to reach the godown in our warehouse will take more than 24 hours as the goods have to be shipped from SL, so IV is possible before GR.
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Dear All,
I have 2 scenario to book the price difference and I would like to know both impact.
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2) I do not care the PO line item which already GR but only manually book in price difference account in GL account tab for the difference between invoice and gr.
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We currently post our price differences at goods receipt (PO price - Std price).
And secondly at invoice receipt (PO price - Actual price)
In order to be able to analyze easier, we want to post goods receipts always against standard price.
At invoice receipt the full price differences should be posted then.
Does anyone know if and how this setting is possible in SAP ?
Thanks.

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Amount in GR comes from standard cost in material master. Entry will be:
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To GR/IR A/c                       150 (based on condition rates)
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Price Difference A/c      10 (new price increase)
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I think you will need at least some backend devlopment for this first and foremost being mapping the invoice date from souce to the Bill date.
Getting price difference is not an issue as much as tracking dates. I think you will need a counter to track the last invoice date which really needs ABAP coding
An exit would be much easier to have this functionality rather than to create RKF's and CKF's
I will update you in case any better idea strikes.
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