GR / IR and Price Differences
Hi
A question on price differences.
We currently post our price differences at goods receipt (PO price - Std price).
And secondly at invoice receipt (PO price - Actual price)
In order to be able to analyze easier, we want to post goods receipts always against standard price.
At invoice receipt the full price differences should be posted then.
Does anyone know if and how this setting is possible in SAP ?
Thanks.
Hi
If PO is created for 90 then how you are paying 93 to vendor. You are following PO based IV?
If you want to pay more to vendor then better to use the option debit material in IV.
In MIRO enter 90 in item details and 3 in material tab and 93 in invoice amount field.
Then your postings will be
GR/IR 90 debit
Material 3 debit
Vendor 93 credit.
Thanks
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This scenario is not possible as you have taken GR for Qty 20 only.
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Cao HuyHello,
What is price difference.
Price differences arise for materials valuated at standard price in the case of all movements and invoices with a value that differs from the standard price. Examples: goods receipts against purchase orders (if the PO price differs from the standard pricedardpreis), goods issues in respect of which an external amount is entered, invoices (if the invoice price differs from the PO price and the standard price).
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Per the online help in B1 8.8, the "Price Difference Account" in the G/L Account Determination: Inventory Tab window "price differences between the base and target documents are recorded in this account."
When I create a Purchase Order for an item, then copy to an A/P Invoice and change the price, the difference between the PO price and the Invoice price is posted to the "Variance Account", not the "Price Difference Account", per the documentation. I have confirmed that the description of the "Variance Account" function is happening correctly, that is, when the price differs from the standard cost the difference is posted to the "Variance Account".
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I only put the "Variance Account" here for reference. My issue relates to the "Price Difference Account". Rather than a difference in price from Purchasing documents going to the "Price Difference Account", it is going to the "Variance Account".
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For Material Movement with price difference, i find that most of the transactions posted in reply to this thread do not allow us to enter the amount externally.
You can use movement type 521 for posting a movement with price difference, by first issuing the material to the cost center and then receiving it by T. Code MIGO ->Goods Reciept -> Others and movement type 521.
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GR and IR price difference.
Hello Gurus,
I am facing one issue. We have a PO created of lets say 1000 qty and the condition rate for it is 1.5. Now GR is been done of 100 qty then in the GR, the amount is local currency should be 150, but the amount is coming entirely different. It is higher than 150, say 170. Now when i am doing IR at that time 150 is coming as the value and hence there is a difference in IR and GR. I checked the currency and its all same. Also I checked the exchange rate, that is also same. Please let me know from where Amount field in GR comes. Is it calculated through Moving Average price in MM.Amount in GR comes from standard cost in material master. Entry will be:
Inventory A/c Dr 170
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To Price Difference A/c 20 (difference between standard price and condition rate)
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GR/IR A/c Dr 150 (Original condition amount)
Price Difference A/c 10 (new price increase)
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Price differences and GR/IR
Hi
A question on price differences.
We currently post our price differences at goods receipt (PO price - Std price).
And secondly at invoice receipt (PO price - Actual price)
In order to be able to analyze easier, we want to post goods receipts always against standard price.
At invoice receipt the full price differences should be posted then.
Does anyone know if and how this setting is possible in SAP ?
Thanks.Unfortunately, I'm not sure if this can be done. I just wanted to point out that you may wish to reconsider doing this as some of your receipts would not have variances recognized until a month or so after the original goods receipt. If the terms are net 30 (or whatever), the invoice would not be paid for 30 days and the variance wouldn't be recorded until the invoice is paid. The idea behind using the PO Expected Price is to book the amount as close to 'actual' as possible upon receipt of the goods.
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Quantity & price difference between purchase order and goods receipt
goods receipt against purchase order
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then how the price difference and quantity diference treated in sap
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sibakindly note that depending on the Moving average or standard price (price control flag in mm01) the difference will either get adjusted with the material or to the price difference account accordingly.
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Once the user enters the range for the billing document date as 01/01/2008 to 06/30/2008 the query should return the report as
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appreciate responsesHi,
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