Pricing schema for steel industries

Hi Friends,
Kindly help me on following issue..
I am working on a pricing schema (additional information : steel industries and material is being used with varient configuration)
take a example --there are three vendors suppling different grades of steel , having different material composition..( contains of AL, SL, PH, Mo etc in %)
suppose supplies will be as -- 0<x<1.2% x .85(multiplication factor)
0 .12<x<2%x.90
0.23<x<10%x.98
If the supplies meets any of the above combination then system should pick pricing schema for that material ..
I could not able to understand how to link these formulas with a pricing schema and how to trigger if supplies falls under these categories.
Your earliest response on above is highly appricable
thanks

Hi ,
Thanks for your reply , in the same mail i wish to thank all who has spare their time for ansering to my quires.
Is it possible in the following way...
Suppose i ask the quoations from the different vedors ( say Q1 , Q2 and Q3 theree different quoation for a same grade of a material or we can say for which falls in a specified material composition range)
I will create one ABAP program where in , while creating a PO, system will pick the price from the quotation ( the final quotation - the best one) along with a source of supply , material and the validity period .
Sytem will do the pricising based on the price picked from the quotation .
Is it possible .......?
kindly suggest me if it is possible .. then which thing or table etc need to consider while defining the schema.
thanks

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