Print to video countdown/slate question

Hey Guys,
Just finished my first attempt at a TVC. The governing body here in Oz says that if my TVC starts with a black frame (it does - fades up from black) that i need to have in between my countdown and the sart of the Ad Black frames with a white square indicator outside the actionsafe zone..
I can't see any option to change the 2 secs of black that occur after the countdown.
Any ideas/tips/help/advice ??
Pete

Mate...
Pure brilliance!.. When I stop beating myself up about why I didn't think of that I'll give it a go..
THIS is why you are know as the guru 'round here..
Care to weigh in on my THE VERY BEST Pan/Zoom/thingo post?..
You were the one who told me some time ago to give up on FCE for Pan/Zoom/ etc (the motion tab in general ) and I assumed at the time it was because of the lack of visual feedback, and that if i perservered like a good boy...
Well I got pretty adept at driving blind, but the flicker and blinking etc is driving me mad..
I want the best program - stand alone or plug-in - I don't care what it costs - and I want it on a MAC!
Pete

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Customize countdown in Print to Video--How to??
FCP 4.5HD.
Ted.

If you didn't use black after the couple of frames of the "2," what would you put between there and the starty of program?
You CAN change the black if you want... but there's a reason for :02 of black:
It's expected and necessary in live television.
Black is necessary on the tape in order to be able to go from "black to black" as when going into a commercial break.
------- stop here if you don't want the background on why---
The tape is cued to a specific number of seconds ahead of sound and then rolled when the director calls a "roll tape" or "Roll VTR _" cue. The countdown rolls by in the monitor, and the director and technical director can see when picture's up, then take the video.
There's usually a fade to black out of program and then eithe a cut or fade to the next video/audio source.
A similar process happens at the end of the commercial. At a specific number of seconds before the end of commercial #1, commercial #2 is rolled... then taken... and so forth if things are coming off of separate tape machines.
Black at the head and tail of spots lets a simple routing switcher make the change from playback device to playback device.
In the "olden days" before automated tape playback machines, commercials were either on film reels (edited together into clusters with a countdown at the beginning and black leader on the tail,) on a videotape that was edited together in a similar fashion... or... (sometimes dangerously so) rolled from four or five different tape machines "live" on the air.
If things were rolled "live," one right after another, I'm sure that there were a lot of praying break operators in stations where equipment was old, maintainence was lax and Murphy was a regular visitor.
The countdown and black on each commercial was a necessary timing tool in order to get through the break cleanly. I can tell you from experience that NOT having them made life verrry dicey when it came to getting in and out of program elements cleanly.
The RCA TCR 100 Cart machine and the Ampex model that did the same thing) would play all the elements in a break and do the switching in between... simplifying the process... until there was a breakdown of the machine, and then you should have seen the scramble in Master Control and/or the tape room.
Its a lot different these days if the station or network airing the commercials plays spots (commercials) off a file server... it's a different game entirely.
Everything is automated and "trimmed" when it's transferred (or start and finish marked on the file).
In that case. the countdown is not needed to get the commercial on the air... but is included to ensure that there's a reference for where the spot actually begins. The :02 of black is still included, since stations traditionally fade or cut to black between spots.
The countdown itself was designed to allow theater projectionists make smooth changes from reel to reel as a movie was projected on the screen.
The projectionist would thread the film on the incoming projector so that the first "10" was in the gate.
As the outgoing reel ended... little cue dots in the upper right hand corner of the screen "cued" the projectionist when to roll the upcoming reel... and then a specific number of seconds laterten in our examplea second set of cue dots (four frames worth) on the screen would cue him to hit the changeover button, opening a douser on the incoming projector and closing one on the outgoing projector... and swapping audio sources at the same time.
The countdown performs a similar function in live television: The tape is cued to a specific number of seconds ahead of sound and then rolled when the director calls a "roll tape" or "Roll VTR _" cue. The countdown rolls by in the monitor, and the director and technical director can see when picture's up, then take the video.
You'd think that woould be the case for movie packages and syndicated television shows, right?

Question about Print to Video

I am using a Sony HC1 HDV camera. I captured some HDV video (using the camera to downconvert) in DV. I edited the sequence and now I want to output a copy of my finished version onto tape in standard definition. The camera is connected via firewire.
I tried to do this playing with the video/audio settings and could not get it to work. I am using Print to Video. I seem to have no problem when I print to video in HDV, but I can't get it to work in DV. Does anyone have any suggestions about settings or anything else that would make this work?

I thought I put the camera in the correct mode, but if I hear you accurately you are saying that you think it is one of my camera settings that is incorrect not my settings within FCP?
Just to verfiy what should all of my Audio/Video settings for Print to Video be for outputting DV to the camcorder? (Both video and audio)
Thanks Jerry-

Print to Video question

Hi,
My edit sequence in FCP is 720x486. I went ahead and black & coded a DV tape to the same resolution. Now, when I try to do a Print to Video, I only get the audio outputted, and not the video! Not sure what is going on. Can I not output a 720x486 sequence to a DV camera?
J.
G4 Dual 533 Mac OS X (10.3.8)

The issue is that I cannot render this file, since it has a Line21 information (Closed Captioning). Rendering it will get rid of that stream.
I created a 720x486 sequence in FCP, brought in my 720x480 DV video, overlayed my Line21 movie on top of it (which is at 720x486).
We were told by MTV that they need a Beta SP tape, so I was hoping I could just Print to Video the sequence on a DV tape, and then hand that off to someone to dub to Beta SP. I guess that was very naive of me.
Do I have to just go straight to a Beta SP deck from FCP??
Thanks;
John
G4 Dual 533 Mac OS X (10.3.8)

Activate recording deck automatically during print to video?

Hey all, here is my question.
Up till now I have always just prepped a file to print to video than manually started my camera or Sony deck to start recording and then clicked start on FCP and recorded the video to tape.
I have a client that now wants my video to start at EXACTLY the 60 second mark. Is there a way to set up FCP to trigger the deck to start recording as it starts playing the color bars, title, countdown etc? So that the time code on the tape starts at exactly the moment the first color bars start?
Then I can set up the color bars, title, countdown to total up to sixty seconds and have the video begin right there.
Is my question clear?
I want bar code to start at 00.00.00.00;00
and I want the final countdown to end at 00.00.00.60;00 and the video to begin. Make sense? Is there a way to get FCP to start deck recording?
Thanks in advance.

That would be Edit to Tape, not Print to Video.
No. You do NOT want timecode to start at 00:00:00:00... How will you pre-roll? One common layout is tape black starting at 58:15:00, Bars and Tone for 60 seconds, 20 seconds of black, 8 second countdown, with a 2-pop and 2 seconds of black to have program starting at exactly 01:00:00;00
Make sense?
Patrick
EDIT: BTW, Edit to tape allows you to Black the tape. If using RS-422 deck control, you can set the starting timecode in the dialog. If FW, you'll have to set it in the deck...

Print to Video takes over monitor

I recently started to back up all my videos on to DV tapes. When I print to tape my monitor mirrors the playback. My DV deck has a monitor connected so i can see playback there and don't want my Mac taken over by the export. I found a setting in the "Audio/Video Settings" under the Final Cut Pro tab that allows me to turn off mirroring, but the screen still goes black. I've also hooked up a second monitor in hopes that the mirroring output would take over that screen, but no. So if anyone could direct me to some settings that I could switch this, your awsome. I'm using Final Cut Pro 6.0.1

How do I make the print to video faster with these options checked?
OK...I am biting my tongue
If I have to insert the color bars and slate into the timeline, how do I get the conventional color bars footage with hight pitch sound without recapturing one of the dubs?
Bithing myth thongue.
In your case printing to video doesn't take longer with the slate checked?
It is beginning to bleed....
How do you drag your sequence from the browser to the print to video video?
Oww....
Pat is talking about the EDIT TO TAPE window. Print to video doesn't have this option. And if you are trying to deliver a tape for broadcast, and you are NOT using edit to tape and are using Print to Video instead...how on earth are you getting proper timecode on this tape? Because bars and tone typically start at 58:30:00...go for a minute...then black for a few seconds...then a slate with program info...then more plack (perhaps a countdown)...then show starts at 1:00:00:00 on the nose. What are you doing?
And seriously...adding bars and tone means outputting takes longer? Uhhh, YEAH. If you add 60 seconds of footage to your timeline, the duration increases by 60 seconds. That is typically how things work. Adding bars, tone, black and a slate should add about 2 minutes to your cut. because you need 30 seconds of black BEFORE the bars and tone too...typically. Export faster? No...can't output faster than real time.
How do you get BARS & TONE without recapturing? In the Viewer, below where you look at your footage, there is a drop down menu with the letter "A." Click on that and you will see BARS AND TONE for a variety of footage formats.
Shane

Unable to print to video, out to Sony V1U

Wedding video shot with Sony V1U, HDV 1080i 16x9. Imported into FCEHD3.5, using easy set up hdv 1080 AIC. total movie length 100minutes. Edited fine. Exported as a QT movie self contained to desk top, no problem. Then attempted to export from the time line the entire sequence. The FCE is pretty easy to export from and set the sony v1u to HDV import with both auto and HDV settings. It is in VTR mode. I checked the render again and it was complete. saved the project. Closed FCEHD. connected fire wire from cam to computer and powered up cam with what appear to be the correct setting according to the manual. Opened FCEHD and project. Rechecked render, resaved project and chose print to video. Went through the next screen as I normally do and have tried with both automatic record start and manual record start. Clicked start and the computer does its job and the video starts but the camera does not appear to ever be controlled by the computer. I let it run for about 30 minutes to see if it needed time to change from Mpeg2 back to HDV. Maybe I did not wait long enough for the number crunching before I gave up.
Question 1: What am I doing wrong.
I tried to export a SD movie and it worked fine.
I tried to send it to IDVD from the QTmovie.fcp file on the desk top but it immediately shuts down IDVD. I tried to import into ImovieHD and it gave me a QT error. I thought maybe imovie had a time limit so I re-exported the movie in to sections as FCP and then dragged and dropped into imovie and it worked. The resolution is much worse in imovie as compared to the great video in FCEHD.
Question 2: Am I losing quality as I move from HDV to FCEHD ( I would assume so as it is going to Mpeg2), and even more when I go then from FCEHD to imovie.
Question 3: When I print to tape from fce back to my original hdv setting it should convert back to hdv correct?
Any advide would be appreciated.
Thanks, Steve

Purchased IDVD8 and problem solved

HDV Print to Video, My Settings

I've seen several posts here about problems getting Print To Video to work with HDV. I just did this and the results were great. So, at the risk of being redundant, I'm going to post what I did.
Camera: Sony FX1, captured using the camera over Firewire.
Captured into FCP using Easy Setup HDV 1080i60
All the footage was nighttime fast action sports.
In the sequence I slowed almost all the footage down to 33.33%, with Frame Blending turned on.
No dissolves, all simple cuts.
No other filters, motion, overlays, graphics, etc.
Sony FX1 Menu Settings:
IN/OUT REC
VCR HDV/DV > AUTO
REC MODE > SP
COMPONENT > 1080i/48Oi
iLINK CONV > OFF
TV TYPE > 16:9
A/V TO D/V OUT > OFF
Final Cut Pro Settings: (as viewed from MENU>FINAL CUT PRO>AUDIO VIDEO SETTINGS...
Summary Tab
Sequence Preset: HDV - 1080i60
Capture Preset: HDV
Device Control: Sony HDV Firewire
Video Playback: None
Audio Playback: None
Sequence Presets Tab
HDV - 1080i60
Capture Presets Tab
HDV
Device Control Tab
Sony HDV Firewire
A/V Devices Tab
Playback Output
Video: None
Audio: Default
"CHECKED" Different Output for Edit to Tape/Print to Video
Video: HDV (1440 x 1080) 30 fps
"CHECKED" Mirror on Desktop
Audio: Default
"NOT CHECKED" Do not show External A/V ...
"NOT CHECKED" Do no show warning ...
Before you Print To Video, make sure you have the Sequence in the Timeline selected. Otherwise you might get an error message. Also, make sure the Camera has a tape and its sitting at the spot you want to print to. (FCP will control the camera)
Then I choose: MENU>FILE>PRINT TO VIDEO ...
Leader: Nothing checked here
Media: Print In to Out (which was set on the Timeline) nothing else checked
Trailer: "CHECKED" Black 5 seconds
"CHECKED" Automatically Start Recording
After you click OK, your sequence will most likely go through a Conforming process, which conforms the sequence as required for HDV. (different from a render) Then the screen will go black, and you can click OK, FCP will cue up the camera, put it in record mode and start the print. (export)
One note: I thought I had also checked MENU>VIEW>EXTERNAL VIDEO>ALL FRAMES. However, when I was done, I checked this menu again and it was set to OFF. So, to be honest I don't know if I did check it and it went back to off, or it was not in fact checked. (lots of messing around prior to getting it to work, sorry)

wish I could get it to work consistantly for my GR-HD1 from JVC. terrible that one of the first cameras on the market isn't fully supported by FCP5.
I have to fiddle around endlessly to get the camera recognised. Usually in Camera mode and then quickly switch the Cam back to VCR mode after FCP recognizes it.
The people at the Sony Store here in San Francisco are so rude and ignorant that I will die before buying a camera from them. I went in to buy 3 cameras for my company a month ago and couldn't get any service. The only one paying attention to me was the security guard who kept coming over to tell me that I couldn't touch the camera in the display. I asked the sales staff I finally got to help me a question about the HDV cameras, and he just dissappeared. Never to return. Eff them.
I will stick to JVC even if it means changing my shop over to PCs. Which has been happening a lot around me lately. Video production people fed up with Apple refusing to support equipement. PC software is fully compliant to the entire spectrum of video out there. The blessings of being an open format I guess.
But, I love my G5 and would miss it.

Help with print to video

have canon xl2, Mac os x 10, Fcp 5 and trying to print to video. there is no video only audio. We have done a trash of qt files and reinstalled, repaired disk permissions and rebooted and used firewire basic ntsc setting and enabled all frames for external video and still the only thing are getting is audio. We can scrub thru the timeline and it shows but if print or play no video
This is for a film festival and is due in 1 week for final trasfer to beta, please save our production!!!!
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Turn everything off.
Turn your camera on to VCR mode, load your tape.
Now power up your mac, and launch FCP.
Close any projects that open with it.
Choose the DV NTSC (or PAL if you're overseas) Easy Setup from the FCP menu.
Open your project, and activate the timeline window that contains your edited, rendered sequence.
Now, in the View menu, set external video to OFF. (This may be the fix for you)
Go to Print To Video in the File menu, and set your slate, black, etc.
The XL2 may or may not work with the Start Recording Automatically box checked; you can try it with or without.
Hit OK in the Print to Video window.
If you did all these things in the exact above order, your camera should kick in and start recording.
Your timeline

When I "print to video" FCP works well but suddenly freezes... why?¿

Hi everybody! I'm desperate right now, hope somebody could help me. I'm working on FCP 4.5 and when I'm done with my project I try to "Print to Video" and/or do it manually and all seems ok but suddenly FCP freezes (with audio still running) and I gotta start all over again... This never happened to me before. I'm doin' this with my iMac G5 (with AGP Video Card) and I can edit, add effects, transitions and even add photoshop images fine but when I want to "print my project" on mini DV I just can't do it "continously" ... any ideas? Thanks a lot, really, anything at this point would help me. Take Care, Bye!!!
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3) iMac G3 Graphite, iBook G3, iPod 15 GB...

Is this a firewire drive? USB is no good for video.
If the external is a frewire drive, all your media should be on that drive while you edit. the final output should also remain on that drive.
Once you are finished editing and ready to record, export the file under Use Current Settings, Self-contained.
Then bring that into a fresh sequence and play it to tape for recording.
good luck.
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Print to Video, Playback Output Video for 1080i60 Codec?

Could someone who is using Final Cut Express 4.0 please check the characteristics under Easy Setup / HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i60, as to whether FCE 4.0 provides a “Playback Output Video” capability.
In FCE 3.5, the pull down menu: Final Cut Express HD / Easy Setup / HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i60, “Playback Output Video” is not available, ie “None”.
I have been using the “Print to Video” command within Final Cut Express 3.5 to export my edited video (NTSC 720x480) back onto my Sony mini DV TRV70 camcorder for archival purposes. This is usually something I do after burning discs using iDVD.
I’m about to purchase a Canon HV30 hi-def camcorder, and in the same way, would like to archive my hi def edited videos, ......that is, after burning some DVD’s, I want to archive the entire 1080i60 version back onto tape using the Print to Video command and Rec Cntrl function of the camcorder. However, the “Playback Output Video” feature of FCE 3.5 for 1080i60 seems to be “None”.
Appreciate any info as to whether FCE 4.0 has this feature, or are there any other ideas out there that would accomplish the same objective.
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Hi Michel (Bonjour)
Thanks again for responding, and providing a number of good references for Blu Ray burning and burners.
I recently “captured” a short Hi Def, 2 minute bird feeder video from my Canon HV30 with Final Cut Express HD 3.5, and placed the imported segment on the Time Line viewer. All of this with FCE set in the 1080i60 AIC codec.
With no editing nor transitions nor effects, I then did a “Print to Video” of this Time Line segment, and recorded it back onto the Canon, positioning it on the tape directly following the original recording.
I then rewound the mini DV tape, and played back the two videos from the Canon into my high definition Samsung via HDMI. I couldn’t tell the difference between the two video samples, …….the original recording compared with the copy that was captured by FCE and re-recorded back onto tape.
I then took this same Time Line segment, exported to a QuickTime self contained movie (sequence), and then dragged that QT sequence into iDVD (Version 7.0.3) widescreen theme pane. It took about 30 minutes to process and burn that same short ( ~2 min) segment to a DVD using my iMac 2.1Ghz G5 w/ standard Super Drive.
I then played back that DVD disc on my HD Samsung through a standard DVD Player (no up converting capability) and could see a good rendition of the video sample, but fuzzy in spots especially during slow panning, …..a good video but NOT certainly the Hi Definition quality that I saw during playback from the Canon mini DV tape playback.
A question for you experts……is the degradation seen during DVD playback caused by the iDVD software not producing a 1060i Hi Def rendition, ….or is the DVD ok and the fact that I did not have an unconverting or Blu Ray DVD player the reason for the lack of non hi-def quality from the DVD?
Michel, …..I have not as yet purchased Toast 10 with the HD plugin. Would you expect that I would see an improved version, ….a nearly Hi Def rendition if I had used Toast 10 instead of iDVD? Or do I have to go the distance!…….that is, Toast 10, a Blu Ray burner, and Blu Ray Player as well!…..to see a version of my 2 minute sample as good as what my Canon HV30 playback is showing me?
Once again, Thanks in advance
BoBo

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Sorry to bother again this those same old 16:9 questions.
1) I have my 16:9 material imported and edited (of course, I have set the configuration for PAL Anamorphotic). What happens, when I go print to video? Does FCE export true 16:9 or does it in fact export a 4:3 letterboxed movie?
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actually i misread Philippe's statement. If he is truly talking about "Print to Video" -> which would imply he goes to tape over firewire or whatever connection he has <- then i must pass. I have not done that before, so my knowledge is purely theoretical.
I do assume for now that if you are using Print to Video that you would have to the letterboxing yourself. From my recollection of using video to do this, VCRs/Tapes do not have the ability to take widescreen material and letterbox it automatically during playback pending TV etc.
But i might be wrong there. I doubt it though. VCRs never really struck me as intelligent devices - that's why they worked
Frank

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This is a basic question I'm sure, but I just need to know...
My first time nesting sequences. When I print to video, how do I make sure that only those nesting sequences get printed? In other words, on my timeline I have my 7 original sequences, and then a master sequence that contains all 7.
Am I correct that by opening that master sequence and then going about the print to video function, only that master sequence will print?

The master sequence will print with the nests that it contains. Make sure you render and mixdown each nest as well as the master sequence.

Edited AVCHD, burned as a blue ray. Is a print to video possible ?

As far as I understand AVCHD from my Panasonic TM300, via log and transfer is decoded to apple codec. Then I work on those files. After editing I can export to quick time movie and then (using for example toast) burn it as a blue ray disc.
All good so far ?
Do I have a full HD (1920x1080) blue ray disc ?
Second question is: what is the way to save my work for future ?
Before Panasonic TM300 I was using Sony HDR HC3 and after editing I was just printing to video which means printing to mini DV tape using this camera. If I clear my hard drive I always had a copy of edited movie in HD on the tape.
Now I have Panasonic TM300 which record in avchd. Can put edited video back to camera using print to video option ? Will it code that video back to Mpeg4 and upload that to camera hard drive ? or it only works with a tape and I need to use old camera to back up my edited video.
thanks
Marek

rufkaz wrote:
As far as I understand AVCHD from my Panasonic TM300, via log and transfer is decoded to apple codec. Then I work on those files. After editing I can export to quick time movie and then (using for example toast) burn it as a blue ray disc.
All good so far ?
Yes, with a 20 minutes limit and fixed predesigned menus from toast. The resulting BR DVD will play fine in Sony PS3. I don't know about other BR players.
Do I have a full HD (1920x1080) blue ray disc ?
No, 1280X720 only.
Second question is: what is the way to save my work for future ?
Before Panasonic TM300 I was using Sony HDR HC3 and after editing I was just printing to video which means printing to mini DV tape using this camera. If I clear my hard drive I always had a copy of edited movie in HD on the tape.
Now I have Panasonic TM300 which record in avchd. Can put edited video back to camera using print to video option ? Will it code that video back to Mpeg4 and upload that to camera hard drive ? or it only works with a tape and I need to use old camera to back up my edited video.
No print to tape operation with AVCHD.
As HC3 is HDV, theorically it should print to tape after a conforming process transcoding AIC to HDV, but I never try it. Be prepare for looooong processing time (6 to 8 time the lenght of sequence).
Michel Boissonneault

FCE2 print to video problem-no signal

I have a very simple 1 minute video from timeline I'd like to export to VHS for presentation, I tried many different permutations, and discovered along the way that Easy Setup must be config'ed for DV-Firewire but to the best that I can tell, I am unable to print to video. I have a 1 minute timline, firewire to a Formac converter box as a bridge and Composite cables set to OUT and IN to my VCR. No signal gets through. Initially FCE kept telling me the VCR was "write protected" even tough the tapes were not. I deselected "Automatically Start Recording" and at first it played complete with sound, but switching to Firewire setting, sound is silent, but I still see the video playback. (But switching back to Real Time in the top left of timeline, I got my sound back.) But later, after Easy Setup to Firewire Basic (or should that be DV Converter? I tried both to no avail), I simply get a "blue screen" on VHS when attempting to Print to Video. I will have to come up with an alternate solution for now.
I wonder if the difficulty is simply the VCR channel? I know the Line 1 + 2 on my other VCR and even tried connecting there, but nothing. The current VHS deck has "no channels" set as it's a standalone box used only for video capturing (the other direction).
I SUCCEEDED months ago but that was with a Sony Handycam. I'm trying to remember if I ever succeeded with this configuration. If anyone can assist, appreciated. The key question is: What settings should there be, and what should I be looking for? I do have the FCE manual and reading that is very basic.

I have to go further, but yes! I needed that prodding to confirm that there's nothing functionally wrong with the FCE setup. I connected the composite to my big tv stretching waay across, and it PLAYED the timeline in TV's INPUT 3, and I have 2 VCRs connected there, but figuring out how to get the VCRs to see the signal I have to work on. This has to do with LINE IMHO, there's one VCR that "understands" line even tho all 3 are same Panasonic brand.. (!?!) this is on a big JVC. I will now attempt to hook up the composite directly to the one VCR and select "Line" channel and then crossed fingers that it sees the firewire. When using Input 3 on TV, it starts out as PINK screen.

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