Problem: KT3 Ultra, Maxtor HD, and PCI Bus Mastering

Hello, and thanks for taking the time to read this plea for help. I have a KT3 Ultra motherboard with an AMD Athlon XP 1800+ processor and a Maxtor D740X (MAXTOR 6L080J4) 80 GB hard drive that I purchased back in March and originally used on my old computer with no difficulty.
Unfortunately, on my KT3 Ultra, if I enable PCI Bus Mastering in the BIOS, the system refuses to boot from the hard drive. It boots fine if PCI Bus Mastering is turned off, but I strongly suspect that I am not getting full UDMA-class throughput with PCI Bus Mastering turned off, which I desperately need because I want to do video capturing with my ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon card. Also, the HD LED does not light up disk activity on that hard disk. I know that the HD LED works and is hooked up correctly because it lights up to show activity on a hard disk I have installed on the second IDE channel. I have tried hooking the 80 GB drive to the IDE RAID ports, but the system hangs in the IDE RAID BIOS and will not boot.
This week, I also tried backing up, wiping the HD clean, and running the PowerMax diagnostic programs, all of which said the HD was operating perfectly.
With PCI Bus Mastering on, I am able to boot from a CD ROM and at least get into my Linux system, but I can't boot into Windoze 98 that way.
I am using the LILO boot loader, but I have also wiped it off with "fdisk /mbr" and tried to boot with PCI Bus Mastering turned on -- no dice there either.
I've fiddled with every relevant BIOS setting and searched in vain for an answer. Something tells me that the UDMA interface on the hard drive may be defective -- the hard drive was an open box special.
Any help that anyone can provide would be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Will Snyder

Hi,
I have KT3 Ultra ARU and Maxtor D740x 60GB too. I have no problem enabling PCI IDE BusMaster. You have done pretty good troubleshooting there and I'm on your back to say it's the harddisk's fault.
Have you tried other hard drive? Have you tried with other IDE cables?
fyi, UDMA is still enabled without PCI IDE busmaster. But I would suggest you to go claim for a hdd swap instead.

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