Problem Printer Profiles in Lightroom 1.2

I am using a Canon Pixma 5300 printer, which produces very acceptable results in all CS suite programs using the sRGB Color Space Profile. However, the listings in Lightroom (taken from the Windows System 32 directory) show only Canon-specific profiles, which do not work well. I have found a makeshift solution by giving a copy of the sRGB Color Space Profile the same name as a Canon profile which I never use. This works well, but it seems a bizarre way of getting a standard profile to work. I can't help thinking there must be a simpler way of doing this, for example by getting Lightroom to list all the profiles available on my system. Does anyone have a solution to this conundrum?
John Loydall

You need to put them in the correct location for the system to pick them up. This is in /Library/ColorSync/Profiles/ or in ~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles. After you put the profile there, restart Lightroom and they will show up when you select other in the profile dialogs in Lightroom. Unfortunately in the last versions of Mac OS X, the finder hides these folders by default. Simply go into the Go Menu and select "Go to Folder" or hit Shift-command-G and type the above locations. The drag the profiles in the resulting finder window. If you're the only user on the machine either location is fine.

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