Problem with bullets in a UL

I have a problem, with ordered lists and the bullets hiding
behind an image. You can view the layout on the page
http://www.mansfield.gov.uk/env_menu/ts_energy_main/ts_energy_savings.htm,
at the moment it uses the style
ul {
list-style-position:inside
However I don't really want the bullet to be inside, however
when I remove the above style the bullets disappear behind the
image, I've tried using the extreme style of
ul {
margin-left: 10em;
padding-left: 10em
but this does not move the list elements next to the image,
only the others.
Does anyone have any ideas how to move the bullets out from
behind the image?
Thanks

When I remove list-style-position:inside the bullets show
fine in FireFox.
Not sure how IE is handling that since I didn't DL your
page.

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Problem with bullets in text boxes

Hi,
I haven't seen this problem written up anywhere but I am
having problems with my text formatting differently in text boxes
when I've used bullets in the text. I am using Captivate 2.
So here's what happens:
If the text caption has a bullet
anywhere in the body, when I publish my captivate course, the text
looks like normal 12 pt Arial.
If there is a text box without any bullets, the text looks
like it was bolded.
The next result is that I have two types of body text
throughout my course.
I went into every slide and verified that there is no other
text formatting going on and I did find that Impact was sometimes
in the same text boxes where I had bullets but I finally got rid of
all the impact. However, the problem remains. Can anyone help me?
Thanks,
Lin

Hi Lin and welcome to our community
My guess here is that you are using the Transparent caption
type. When you do this, the caption anti-aliases the text inside
and many claim it looks either bold or fuzzy. You have two options.
1. Use Bullets on all captions. Don't worry, you don't have
to actually SEE the bullets. Just press Enter a few times and apply
bullets to one of the blank lines. Then size the caption so the
bullet part is hidden from view.
2. Implement a trick discovered by fellow Adobe Community
Expert Paul Dewhurst. You can see his trick by
clicking
here.
Hopefully one of these works for you... Rick

Rendering problems with bulleted slides

I am having a problem with the latest version of Keynote 3.
When I create a slide with one field with a bulletted list, and choose the "word pop" effect on the field, the bullets are randomly disappearing and won't appear on the slide.
If I turn off the build effect, the bullets appear as they should.
Has anyone else encountered this?
I love the build effects in Keynote, and this is driving me crazy!

I am having a problem with the latest version of Keynote 3.
When I create a slide with one field with a bulletted list, and choose the "word pop" effect on the field, the bullets are randomly disappearing and won't appear on the slide.
If I turn off the build effect, the bullets appear as they should.
Has anyone else encountered this?
I love the build effects in Keynote, and this is driving me crazy!

I just updated to new final cut pro x 10.1.1 and i am also on mavericks so but on my editing timeline i was trying to color grade using magic bullet looks but i am having problem with it. when it comes back to tcp x it's black.

I just updated to the new final cut pro x 10.1.1 and i am also on mavericks so but on my editing timeline i was trying to color grade using magic bullet looks but i am having problem with it. When i send a sample to MBL and color grade it , it comes back to final cut pro x all black even after render. By the way on the MBL i am using the GPU rendering, I used before like 4months ago and it was fine. And i don't like to use the CPU because it very slow.

What is the frame rate of the project? At what frame rate was the media recorded? What frame size?
What are the audio settings?
What are the specs of the machine, in particular how much RAM, how is the hard drive connected, etc.?
If possible, post screenshots of the inspector for the project.
It could be related to the audio frequency?

Photoshop cc problem with Magic Bullet Looks 2 !

I am having trouble with using Red Giants' Magic Bullet photolooks 2 plugin with PS CS6 (32&64).
The standalone program works fine on its own but fails to launch properly from PS's filter menu. It tries to launch the app but then reports an error Sorry, an error occurred (12288), Corrupted memory profile, then an error Can't open dest profile. These errors can't be cleared except by going into task manager to kill the app. Photoshop reports the error as LooksBuilder failed to launch. Please ensure the application has not been renamed or moved from the install location and then Could not complete the Photolooks command because of a problem with the filter module interface.
Please Help
i heard that the fix is by the color management , but i dont know how

Disable those plugins until you can get an update from the plugin manufacturer. Just change the name of the folder they're in to start with ~ and relaunch Photoshop.
Also, the magic bullet looks have nothing to do with color management.

Problem with columns in the middle of my book

I am writing my second book with Pages 2.02 and have run into a problem with columns. I want to add a long list of items as a list with check boxes for readers to check off. If I paste in enough text for three or four pages of two columns it gets messed up in various ways - the text flows into the following text if I don't use section breaks at the end instead of layout breaks, if I use section breaks it solves that one, but if I add anything to the list it changes all the columns across the pages so that one or several of the pages has way less in the right column than in the left. So far the left column fills the entire page all the time, but the right column has lots of spaces. If I switch back and forth from one column to two, it fixes it. If I add text before the list section it messes everything up again and because there is a section break I end up with a little bit of text on the last page and a huge gap before the single column part that follows.
Does anyone know how to get reliable results that will not mess me up when adding content before the list or in the list itself?
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hi Cymru,
Thank you for thinking about my problems. I guess I s half asleep when I posted and it didn't make sense.
I have so far 77 pages of the book divided into several chapters via section breaks. Inside the 5th section there is almost two pages of paragraphs. Those paragraphs could become 3.75 pages or who knows how long before the list of items. The list of items is 226 items separated by carriage returns and go from one word with 5 characters to 7 words and 34 characters. It needs to be a list with check boxes before them so that the user can check off the items that apply. It is a workbook about turning bipolar into an advantage and is currently 8.5 x 11 and printed on my laser printer for now, but when completed will be more like 8 x 10, so it needs to resize without major hassles.
I have tried every combination of breaks to get the list to flow in two columns, but perhaps have not done the correct combination. I show invisibles and layout. At the end of my paragraphs I do a paragraph return. I then do either a section break or a layout break, followed by a paragraph return and another layout or section break. I then put my curser before the paragraph break, but after the first section/paragraph break, and set columns to 2, evenly divided by default with 3.2026" columns and .3375" gutter, but I want them to change with page size in the future.
Once set up, I copy the text out of BBEdit and paste into the left column. It takes up several pages because it is formatted to do double spaces, so I use one of my styles to make it bold and single spaces. I then apply list style with image bullets and one of the default box images that came with Pages. There are 5 items in each column on the first page because it is close to the bottom, but flows into the next two pages. (with text edits it might end up 20 items in each column on the first page) The second page has 39 items in each column and the last page has 8 items in the left column only, but if with section breaks take up the whole page and the next paragraphs start on the next page. If I then add items to the list, every page gets messed up and the second page ends up with 39 on the left column and less items in the right column for each added item.
If I use layout breaks instead of section breaks, the paragraphs following my lists (now with only one column) end up under the list. What that means is I can see my bold items, but beneath them are my paragraphs that belong after the list. I can see the layout break at the end of the list, but the columns that are shown as part of the 'view layout' are visible right over the single column text also for the rest of the page. The only way to solve that is to go with section breaks and put up with the gap from the end of the list to the following paragraphs.
I hope this makes more sense.
Tom
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Problems with overage charges and making account changes on line

I have quite a bit of history involving my attempts to resolve the problem of catching my account before it goes over the minutes allowed and making the changes on line (to cut down on call volume) to change my account to raise the minutes allowed for that billing cycle. I was given one reason why it didn't work the first time (I didn't print out my confimation proving I made the changes - bit the bullet and paid those charges) and so the second time wanting to avoid the problem from the first time I made sure I printed out my confirmation. The confirmation had an effective date of change of 07/19/2012 the day I was informed I was nearing my allowed minutes. There were only 4 or 5 maximum days left in that billing cycle so I wanted to nip the problem in the bud and make the changes to my account to be made "that" day. My confirmation said the changes were effective 07/19/2012. In plently of time before that billing cycle ended. Again I was told I did something wrong. This time I'm holding my confirmation in my hand even as the person is telling me again I did it wrong. The purpose Verizon wants it's customers to use the available on-line option is to cut down on their call volume. I didn't go to school to get the knowledge apparantly needed to perform these particular tasks in a manner that is acceptable to Verizon. Has anyone else had problems with trying to fix their problems themselves using Verizons "helpfull" on-line choice?

I have an explanation for you by what was meant by "you did it wrong."
When you make a change effective the date you are requesting it and not at the start or end of your billing cycle, your minute usage for that month is pro-rated.
For example, you say you made a change, because you were nearing your allowance limit, on 7/19/2012 and wanted it effective that day with 5 days left in the billing cycle. Lets assume that your allowance is 700 minutes/month and you were at 675 minutes for that month(still under your monthly allowance). If you make a change effective with 5 days left in your billing cycle to the 1400 minute/month allowance, your allowance for the 1st 25 days of your cycle will have been pro-rated to (25/30) * 700 = 583 minutes. This would mean you would have already had an overage of 92 minutes for the 1st 25 days of the month. Additionally, you would have a pro-rated allowance to use the last 5 days of (5/30) * 1400 = 233 minutes. This is how the pro-rating works when you make a change effective during the middle of your billing cycle.
What you need to do next time to avoid these overage charges is to make the change effective at the beginning of your current billing cycle. So if you had made the change on 7/19/2012, but your billing cycle ended on 7/24/2012(5 days later), you should have made the change effective at the beginning of your current billing cycle, or 6/24/2012. This is called backdating the change. In this instance, you would have received a credit on you account for the cost of the 700 minute plan and been charged the full amount for the 1400 minute plan on your next bill, which I believe is a net additional charge of $10 and you would have had the use of 1400 minutes for throughout the entire month. In this example, you would not have had any overage with your 675 minutes during the 1st 25 days of your cycle and would have been able to use 725 minutes over the last 5 days of your billing cycle. This is much better than the overage charge you would receive with 92 overage minutes @ $0.45/minute = $41.40.
I hope this explains it.

ICal syncing problems (with Lion?)

I've only noticed this since upgrading to Lion but I am having problems syncing my phone and iCal via iTunes.
To start, I spent almost 3 hours on the phone with Apple a few days ago and we thought we fixed the issue. Here were the original problems:
event made on phone would not sync to computer at all
event made on computer would sync to phone but...
it would also make duplicate events in one of two ways:
would make identical event at same time on different calendar
would make random New Event items where I never made them
So, we spent 3 hours and basically fixed it
        Now, today, I'm having major problems with recurring events getting screwed up. I'm a teacher, so I put in my teaching schedule via recurring events. Fine. Then I delete a week off for a break on the computer and sync and it still shows up on the phone. Computer is blank and phone has weekly schedule still there. So, I pick a day and manually delete events in the phone and sync again. That day is now gone from phone and computer but the other 4 days of the week (which were blank on the computer) now REAPPEAR on the computer.
         Does anybody have any solutions or has anybody experienced the same? My impression is that it started happening when I installed Lion. I am not sure that is the case because I wasn't intensely using my computer in the month after I installed Lion. Maybe it has to do with iOS? Maybe iTunes? It is really a horrible feeling to no longer trust your calendar program. How do I know if it's accurate or not?
         What happened to the days when Apple just worked?! That is why I paid a premium for this computer and phone. If I want to troubleshoot important things all day on a Sunday I can save $1000 and buy a PC.

Thank you for sharing Derek. I have exactly the same issues you described in your bullet points, and it started with the Lion upgrade (I even bought a MacBook Air at the same time...)
When you say "we basically fixed it" -- can you share what the issue was and how you fixed it with Apple?
Thanks

Problems with ASIO on multiple Audigy 2 ZS cards

G'day,
I've been using an Audigy 2ZS PCI for a couple of years now with great success. I convert old audio recordings to various digital formats using a couple of applications (mainly Adobe Audition 1.5 & 2.0).
Recently, my workload has increased to the point where I needed one card to just record at high res, and another card to handle just playback and general Windows bells & whistles without impacting the performance of the recording.
I installed a second 2ZS, it was detected by Windows, etc, and I set it up so Windows uses one card (identified as A800) for all its stuff, and the second card (B000) is used only for ASIO recording.
That's where the nightmare started. I've uploaded and installed the May 2006 Creative driver update, but I still suffer from a number of problems, some related to Audition, some not.
The least annoying problem is that all the Creative drivers seem to identify only a truncated version of the ID string. So for example, in various applications, I see "SB Audigy 2ZS [B0 -1" or "SB Audigy 2ZS [A8 -5". This is annoying but not showstopping.
The biggest problem is getting applications to correctly interact with the Creative Labs ASIO driver and enumerator. Most applications (Nero, Audition, Premiere Pro) can "see" the ASIO driver, but when it's selected, it may not work at all, or may work from one or the other sound card, without any clear indication of which card is selected.
I'm sorry if this sounds generic, but I've spent a week with the Adobe folks, who simply ended up telling me "it's a problem with the CL drivers", and most forums I frequent say the same thing, and the specifics vary from application to application, but at the core, CL drivers are just not working properly with the system when two cards are installed.
By way of example, using ASIO4ALL has fixed many of the card selection problems, but even there, sometimes the inputs of one card are disabled, sometimes the other card, and in the middle of a recording session (line in jack, 44.1k/16 bit), the input waveform slowly biases down to -2V and then all I get are inverted samples - quiet appears as max. value samples, while valid audio appears as -2V samples! If I put the audio line into the other card, it plays just fine (I know what I'm doing WRT grounding and line levels, etc).
This system has run essentially non-stop since September 2005, and I guess it collected a lot of software crud, so I bit the bullet and performed a clean reinstall of Windows XP and updated every driver I could. Some problems have since changed for the better (i.e. clicking on the configure button of the CL ASIO driver no longer bluescreens or displays an empty window), but the problems described above still happen all the time.
I was wondering if other users have seen the same or similar problems, and if so, what has worked for you?
The system is a Gigabyte 81PE1000Pro2, PCI bus, 3.2GHz P4 with HT enabled, 2G physical RAM, and a 1.5Tb RAID disk system.
Recording when a single sound card (either of the cards works beautifully on its own) is perfect; just when both cards are installed, everything gets confused! Even the WDM drivers don't correctly identify or manage the routing of inputs and outputs reliably.
Sorry to go on about this. If anyone can offer constructive suggestions (I define "constructive" as not telling me to "buy another type of card" or (as one poor soul suggested) telling me that multiple PCI sound cards are not supported under Windows), I would be most grateful.
Thanks and regards,
Peter

G'day Jutapa, thanks for looking at this!
Yeah, I got all the possible ASIO drivers listed, one CL ASIO driver is listed for each card, and I have spent much time trying different configurations of card order, I/O port order, direct sound enabling/disabling, timesync enable/disable, etc.
The problem for me with the CL ASIO drivers is that it limits me to 48/96k sampling only. That is not acceptable, because I need to sample at 44.1k for "straight" conversions to CD, or 192k/24-bit for archival purposes (used for extremely old or fragile recordings), so I end up with large files that nearly always need to be resampled to 44.1k, or saved permanently at 192k/24-bit. Typical filesize is 650Mb, largest so far is 5.66Gb - so that's an awful lot of time spent downsampling or pointless upsampling. I'm starting to think that the problems I'm experiencing may be due to sampling at "non-native" ASIO or WDM rates. I haven't tried sampling at 48/96k to see if that "fixes" the problem...
Using the WDM wrapper drivers (I don't know if these are provided - or supported! - by Creative or Adobe) results in randomly disabling one or the other Audigy. At that point, the only way to recover functionality for the disabled card is to reboot. Sometimes only the inputs are disabled, sometimes only the outputs, sometimes both. There is no pattern that I can see or duplicate.
Both cards appear to work fine under Windows. I can define either card as the default recording or playback device, and I can define one card as the default recording and the other as the default playback, any combination works fine. However, any application that uses WDM drivers to access the cards also get confused when a card's inputs suddenly become disabled! This does not appear to happen when Windows is the only application using the cards.
Specifying "use preferred devices" in Windows does disable the non-selected card (or card input or output if I specify different cards for input and output) in other applications.
The problems are much worse when I try to use any ASIO drivers to access the cards. This problem with ASIO appears regardless of the application I use.
I have installed ASIO4ALL, and it finds and configures the cards without any problems in ALL applications - but if I'm recording (with no other applications or drivers or tray applications loaded or active), when I stop recording and restart, the input I was just recording from appears disabled! If I open the ASIO4ALL configuration window, one or both Audigy cards will have their inputs disabled, or both inputs AND outputs disabled. This doesn't happen all the time, and my workaround is not to stop recording once I've started. Not a good workaround! I do realise that ASIO4ALL does fiddle around with the sample rates in the background, but at least when it works, I get a single clean sample without having to do all the resource-intensive resampling later. Maybe it's 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other...
I understand and appreciate that perhaps CL never intended to provide software functionality for more than one Audigy on any given PCI bus/bridge. I just don't get why the drivers appear to work natively under Windows (I'm assuming that Windows just uses WDM access) but not with any other applications.
I will try and do some testing with "native" ASIO sample rates (i.e. 48/96k) and see if that fixes some or all of the problems. My concern here is really that my expectation is that the drivers, once identified and enabled, should not suddenly disable themselves in all applications (by whatever mechanism), regardless of what sample rates are specified. But maybe that's too much to expect.
BTW, this happens with any combination of 2 of my 3 Audigy 2ZS cards, each of which works perfectly on its own with ASIO and WDM drivers. So it's definitely a multiple card issue.
The workaround that has been suggested is to purchase a different vendor's card : but there are so few cards that I can use to sample at the resolutions I require, and they are all so bloody expensive, that's why I've committed so much to CL Audigy 2ZS.
I'll get back to you once I've tried a few days working at the "standard" ASIO sample rates. Thanks again for taking the time with this stupid and unusual problem!
Kind regards,
Peter

Preview problems with Adobe pdfs

Hi all
I hope this is in the right place ... I've checked through the forums, but couldn't find a problem like this anywhere.
I have just upgraded from a PowerMac G4 dual to a PowerMac G5 dual-core, both running the latest version of Tiger and have managed to migrate across most things. However, there is one problem I'm having which is a bit frustrating.
I use the Adobe CS2 for most of my work, but since changing machines, the Export/Save As PDF features aren't working properly. If I Export any document to pdf from InDesign, it will then not open in Preview, giving a particularly vague error: "File Error. Couldn't open the file." If I then open it up in Reader or Acrobat Pro it works, but when closing it afterwards, it asks me to Save the file (though to my knowledge I haven't made any changes). The file will then open in Preview.
A similar thing happens in Illustrator, but with a twist ... a file Saved as pdf will open straight away in Preview, but once closed won't then open again, until I go through the same process with Acrobat. Having the tested the files on other Macs, the problem is with the files, as they don't open on any machine, nor on a PC (before realising the problem, I sent a pdf to a client).
Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening? Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance <d>

Hi Vipir
Thanks for the quick reply!
When making the pdfs, I didn't use any of the standards (to maximise compatibility), but I tried every available version of Acrobat (from 4 to 7) and all produced the same result. When I started, I had them Optimised, but after reading a few things online, I tried without Optimising, and then without Tagging them, but still without success.
The end result seems to be a pdf which will only open on Reader or Acrobat Pro, after being fixed by them in some way. If not opened in either of them, then they don't seem to be able to be opened by anyone (regardless of platform or program).
Maybe I've been lucky in the past, but I've never experienced any problems with pdfs before, and I just got used to pdfs being fairly 'bullet-proof!'
Thanks for your help <d>

Right, MacBook Pro 17" early 2011(Built March) and my new OCZ sata III 6G not working, when is Apple going to admit there is a problem with the Intel's 6 Series Chipset. In System Information it says "Link Speed: 6 Gigabit" which is sata III.

My MacBook Pro 17" early 2011(built March) and my new OCZ sata III 6G are not working together, when is Apple going to admit there is a problem with the Intel's 6 Series Chipset. In System Information it says "Link Speed: 6 Gigabit" which is sata III and in my MacBook Pro it does not work.
Now MacBook Pro 17" early 2011 built May onward do not have this problem it was fixed in the Intel's 6 Series Chipset. (So there is a problem). Cam I have my MacBook Pro fixed please.

After biting the bullet and ordering more RAM, my computer now is working a ton better. So that must have been the main issue. With 8 GB RAM, I can now even run Parallels fluidly (better than my work PC!) where before simple things like logging in to my MBP after reboot could take forever.
The place I went to had several other people getting RAM upgrades at the same time as me, so between this and other comments I've seen in discussions here and elsewhere on the Internets, I take it to mean that either Apple should bump up the base RAM on its new machines, and/or stop charging so much for additional RAM.
I refused to believe a Pro machine bought with Lion installed would come with too little RAM for light to medium usage, but it was apparently the case. I'll mark this as a correct answer and hope some other poor soul will come across this thread and be helped by it.

Problems with RH 9, CBT, and Printed Documentation

When I upgrade an x5 project in the new RH9, all appears to go fine until I try to generate the Printed Documentation. I was disappointed that the printed documentation STILL requires so much cleanup. Text tagged with the Online condition sometimes displays on some topics, even when Online is excluded from the output. Also, some of the cleanup issues surrounding headings and index entries are still necessary.
The four biggest issues are:
1) If a "book" TOC heading also has content (a topic associated with it), a double-heading appears in the printed output. You have to manually remove all these extra headings in the cleanup process.
2) All index entries appear in the paragraph BEFORE the actual heading they mark, instead of after the heading, resulting in the Index not being correct (if a heading appears at the top of the page, the Index points to the previous page where the index entry resides, instead of the correct page). I have to manually go through the entire document and move each index entry to the paragraph AFTER the heading it marks.
3) Robohelp ignores the exclusion of Online conditions on some random topics. There is a workaround to "trick" Robohelp, but it takes *a lot* of time to do. To "trick" Robohelp, I had to generate a printed manual and make a list of all topics that "slipped" through. And, then edit each topic where the online condition was ignored, by adding an extra, empty paragraph to the end of each topic that had:
·         a single paragraph of text (aside from header and footer info)
·         ends with bulleted list (and no extra paragraph marker following)
·         ends with a table (and no extra paragraph marker following)
·         ends with a figure (and no extra paragraph marker following)
·         ends with see also\How do I\misc button text (and no extra paragraph marker before the seealso/how do I listings)
4) I noticed that when I opened a topic for the first time in Robohelp, the Online condition sometimes gets applied to incorrectly tagged text (it wasn't tagged this way in the x5 content). This requires me opening each topic in the upgraded project, and checking each topic to make sure the online condition is applied correctly in each one (a very tedious process, especiallly if you have a doc set of over 1 mil words!).
Expected results:
Printed doc does not contain double headings. Index entries appear after headings. Conditional text behaves as it is supposed to behave (and if you tell Robohelp to exclude the ONLINE condition, it does it for ALL topics).
Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for this? Yes, I have the latest build. We held off on upgrading to previous releases of Robohelp because of the Printed Manual problem too (it seems like each version created more clean up work). :-( I logged a bug on the Adobe forum.Any and all suggestions appreciated. Thanks!

Mr. Grainge,
Thank you so much for your thoughtful answers back! I appreciate you taking time out to write such a thorough reply. I hope Adobe appreciates you! You're number one in follow ups!
Unfortunately, your answers did not solve my problems. But, you did give me some ideas on where the problems could be occurring. So, thank you!! Before I begin: In answer to your question, yes I *am* using the supplied Style Mapping template (I never had luck with the custom one myself). Also, I am going to hold off on replying to 1) and 2), but I'd like to share my answer on 3) and 4), which is really just what I need to get Printed Documentation working in Robohelp 9 the same way it worked in x5.
A little history: I have a set of about 50 help projects that span many versions of our company's product, and multiple versions of Robohelp (some even go back to the 90s!). They even include some help projects that were originally in Frame/WebWorks but were later ported to Robohelp. There's a lot of history to them.
Investigating the Problem: When I opened an x5 project in RH 9, I noticed that some of the timestamps on the .htm files didn't match the rest of the files. It turned out, that these very same files that were the ones giving me problems with the Conditional text! That's when your thoughts about the mapping came to mind...As I said, my project spanned mutiple versions of Robohelp. I wondered if some of the coding on the .htm page was being parsed incorrectly on upgrade, and if if that was the reason why RH couldn't update the pages (which explain the unchanged timestamps). In other words, I wondered if Robohelp was mapping the styles correctly on import. So, I compared these unupgraded .htm files with ones that did upgrade, to see if there was something on the code page that could be causing the problem.
Solution to Fix 3) and 4) above:
I'm going to list out everything that I did below, however, not everything on this list applies to everyone. But, hopefully it will help you, if you ever run into this scenario yourself, and it might give you some ideas on how to get your HTML files working. So, before upgrading, here is what I did:
I opened my old CSS in a text editor and removed all the Robohelp autogenerated comments.
In Homesite, I did a bunch of Search and Replaces on a copy of the older x5 project. I looked for code that may have been generated in an earlier version of RH,and for unusual structures in the meta and style declaration area that could be causing conflicts. Here is a list of my search and replaces below:
Search for:

Replace With:
nothing
Search for:

Replace With:
nothing
Search for:

Replace With:
nothing
Search for:
<p> </p>
Replace With:
nothing
Search for:
<p> </p>
Replace With:
nothing
Search for:
<html>
<head>
Replace With:
<html>



<head>
Search for:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">

<link href="MyHelp.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">

<script language="javaScript" type="text/javascript" src="MyHelp.js"></script>
<script language="javascript" src="eHlpDhtm.js"></script>
</head>

<body TABINDEX=1>
Replace With:

<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name=generator content="RoboHELP by eHelp Corporation - www.ehelp.com">
<meta name=generator-major-version content=0.1>
<meta name=generator-minor-version content=1>
<meta name=filetype content=kadov>
<meta name=filetype-version content=1>
<meta name=page-count content=1>
<meta name=layout-height content=597>
<meta name=layout-width content=662>

<link href="MyHelp.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">

<script language=javaScript
type="text/javascript"
src="MyHelp.js"></script>
<script language=javascript
src="eHlpDhtm.js"></script>
</head>

<body TABINDEX=1>
Search for:
<a class=toplinks href="#top"> Top</a>
…or…
<a class=toplinks href="#top">Top</a>
Replace With:
<a class=toplinks
href="#top">Top</a>
Search for:
<h3 id=SeeAlsoTitle
class=SeeAlsoTitle
style="x-condition: Online;">See Also</h3>
<div id=seeAlso
Replace With:
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After I did these all these search and replaces in the copy of the x5 version of the project, I opened the project again in RH 9 and upgraded it. After the upgrade, I checked the timestamps on the .htm files to make sure they all changed. They did! It worked! Everything upgraded properly this time... I tested the Printed Manual output and no conditional text slipped through this time. Yay!
In Summary:
This is what I learned if you are having problems with Conditional text and Printed Manuals in an upgraded RH project:
Always make backups of your older projects before you upgrade anything. I know this is elementary, but I thought it was worth reminding.
Check the timestamps of the files after you upgrade the project. If there are a group of files with timestamps that aren't similar to the rest of the files, chances are Robohelp was having trouble converting those files.
Try looking at the HTML code in those files and see if anything looks out of the ordinary. Some examples are above.
If you have already ported the RH project and it's too late to go back, go look at the file timestamps anyhow. For all the older files, try opening each one in Robohelp and add a space or something (to force RH to change it), and save it. I didn't have the time to verify this, but it seemed on most instances: when I forced RH to save the file manually, it updated correctly and the problem with the conditional text went away. (This option takes longer, especially if you have to do each page individually, but it's worth a try, IMHO.)
Aside from the initial Printed Manual woes, which are resolved, the upgrade process from RH 9 really was seamless! Best I have ever seen! Everything just works! Awesome is a word that comes to mind.
Printed Documentation output does work on upgrade, but in my opinion is: it is no better than it was before, in previous versions.
I wish there were more fixes to the Printed Manual output. When you have a product help system that spans multiple versions, contains over 2.5 million words, and 10,000+ topics, having a lot of cleanup on the production end is costly. What use to take a person on my team less than a day to generate 50+ PDFs in FrameMaker, takes 4-5 weeks man-time in RH. I will outline my opinions in my next reply to this thread.
Thanks again, Mr. Grainge!

Weirdness with Bullets and Numbers

I'm using RH8 on Windows XP. Ever since I upgraded, every time I format a block of text with bullets OR numbers, the software changes my Arial 10 point text to Times New Roman 12. It's getting annoying having to reformat my text every time I put it in bullets or numbers. Is this a "feature?" Is there some uber-style that's overriding my stylesheet?
Thanks,
Jeff Kersh
American HealthTech, Inc.

Hi,
Afaik, there is nu überstyle in RH. Assuming you don't use the RoboHelp multilevel lists: You probably want to set global list styles in your CSS. You need the UL tag for unordered lists and the OL tag for Ordered lists.
For instance:
UL, OL {
Font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
Font-size: 10pt;
To make all your unformatted lists Arial 10 pt.
Search around a bit on the forum. A lot of people have had problems with lists, and there have been a lot of posts already on this subject. If you can't find what you're looking for, please post again.
Greet,
Willam.
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Potential problem with XMLDOM.writeToClob()

I'm really hoping that someone can help me with this. Last fall, wrote some code that used XMLDOM to build a document and send it to a web service. I remember having problems with WriteToBuffer and WriteToClob during my development efforts, which I thought were successfully resolved. Now it looks like the problem may be occurring at a client who recently upgraded to use this code. I can't get this to fail in-house, so I can't do much debugging on it. So I'm hoping that someone else has come across a problem like this and remembers what they did to fix it.
Basically, what happened was, WriteToClob (or sometimes WriteTuBuffer) didn't return anything, even though the DOM document was not empty. I remember going back and forth between WriteToBuffer and WriteToClob, trying to get it resolved. But I don't remember specifically finding any "magic bullet". Here's what I currently have in the code:
DBMS_LOB.createtemporary (v_source_data, TRUE);
DBMS_LOB.OPEN (v_source_data, DBMS_LOB.lob_readwrite);
xmldom.writetoclob (v_main_doc, v_source_data);
DBMS_LOB.CLOSE (v_source_data);
Has anyone had a similar problem, and remember what the fix was? I'm also not sure that the Open/Close calls are necessary. Or what TRUE means on CreateTemporary (aside from some generic comment about "buffer cache" without telling me what a buffer cache is).

I'm really hoping that someone can help me with this. Last fall, wrote some code that used XMLDOM to build a document and send it to a web service. I remember having problems with WriteToBuffer and WriteToClob during my development efforts, which I thought were successfully resolved. Now it looks like the problem may be occurring at a client who recently upgraded to use this code. I can't get this to fail in-house, so I can't do much debugging on it. So I'm hoping that someone else has come across a problem like this and remembers what they did to fix it.
Basically, what happened was, WriteToClob (or sometimes WriteTuBuffer) didn't return anything, even though the DOM document was not empty. I remember going back and forth between WriteToBuffer and WriteToClob, trying to get it resolved. But I don't remember specifically finding any "magic bullet". Here's what I currently have in the code:
DBMS_LOB.createtemporary (v_source_data, TRUE);
DBMS_LOB.OPEN (v_source_data, DBMS_LOB.lob_readwrite);
xmldom.writetoclob (v_main_doc, v_source_data);
DBMS_LOB.CLOSE (v_source_data);
Has anyone had a similar problem, and remember what the fix was? I'm also not sure that the Open/Close calls are necessary. Or what TRUE means on CreateTemporary (aside from some generic comment about "buffer cache" without telling me what a buffer cache is).

Problems with Listobject based on a recordgroup

Hi all,
I have three problems with a Listobject (popup-_list) showing the records of a recordgroup.
The recordgrroup is created programatically in the WHEN_NEW_FORM_INSTANCE-Trigger of the form. It shall be the source of a ListObject. The values of the recordGrpoup and therfore also of the Listobject depends on the values of an master-datablock. Changing the values of the masterblock, the recordgroup must be requeried and the listobject must be repopulated.
1. When opening the form, the masterblock is empty. Same I want to have the listObject empty. An empty recordGroup seems not to be applied to the ListObject. Is there any possibility?
2. My sql-statement of the recordgroup works with a global variable like so:
:global.grpartid := '1004';
group_id := create_group_from_query
('grpLagorte', 'SELECT evm_a_lagort.bez, evm_a_lagort.lagort_id from evm.evm_a_lagort, evm.evm_n2m_artikel_lagort where EVM_n2m_artikel_lagort.H_MANDANT = m.EVM_A_lagort.H_MANDANT AND evm.EVM_n2m_artikel_lagort.lagort_ID = evm.EVM_A_lagort.lagort_ID and evm.evm_n2m_artikel_lagort.artikel_id = ''' ||:global.grpartid||'''');
I would prefer to replace the global variable with an item from my master datablock, but that seems not to work.
3. I have to requery the group and repopulate the list when changing the master-data.
declare
status                NUMBER;
     list_item          item := find_item('evm_jn_a_l.lst_lagort');
begin
:global.grpartid := :evm_a_artikel.artikel_id;
status := populate_group('grpLagorte');
message ('Status: ' || status);
message ('artikel_id: ' || :evm_a_artikel.artikel_id);
message ('Global: ' || :global.grpartid);
if status = 0 then
     populate_list(list_item, 'grpLagorte');
else
     message('Fehler bei Abfrage der Datensatzgruppe');
end if;
end;
The messages show the right values
status = 0
artikel_id = the choosen next one
global.grpartid = the next artikel_id
The content of the Listobjet does not change.
Its a problem of the recordgroup (How can I figure that out?) or its a problem of the listObject or anything else?
Help would be very appreciated and the problem is a bit urgent.
Thanks
Silke

Silke,
I may not have the answer to all of your questions.
1. If you do a clear_list on the list item and, prior to this, assign it a null value. Does this work, assuming you didn't set the "other" property ?
2. What if you do
_artikelId varchar2(100);
_artikelId:= :block.item;
group_id := create_group_from_query
('grpLagorte', 'SELECT evm_a_lagort.bez, evm_a_lagort.lagort_id from evm.evm_a_lagort, evm.evm_n2m_artikel_lagort where EVM_n2m_artikel_lagort.H_MANDANT = m.EVM_A_lagort.H_MANDANT AND evm.EVM_n2m_artikel_lagort.lagort_ID = evm.EVM_A_lagort.lagort_ID and evm.evm_n2m_artikel_lagort.artikel_id = ''' ||_artikelId||'''');
You should be able to do the same using global variables, in case you need it to be global
3. I don't see whats wrong with the list, maybe you can try to do a clear_list before repopulating it. If this doesn't help try the "magic bullet" and call
synchronize;
after populating the list. I checked if there is a bug filed on this issue for Forms 6i (I remember that you are using Forms 6i) but there is none. So the component should be fine.
Frank

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