Problem with TOC

I made 2 styles
titles of lessons
titles of sections.
I created a table of contents (TOC) using the styles, however half of the titles do not show.
I checked all titles styles to be sure they are using the appropriate ones and they are.
Here is the automatic table missing several titles. What is doing this. I had no problem in CS4 ever and since I have CS5 this problem has appears in several projects.
Here is the table the way it should look.

If it's a conversion issue, it usually works better to do the export from the original version, rather than to wait and try the export from CS5 after editing. I've gotten into the habit of exporting all complex files to .inx in the original, then opeing that to make changes in CS5. So far that's worked well, and seems to work for others who have reported issues when opening a legacy .indd file directly.
So, Do you still have CS4? If so, lets try something else. Open the .idml file you exported from CS5 in CS4, then export THAT to .inx, and finally, open teh .inx in CS5. If you haven't used any new unsuppoted features, this should work to give you a document with the same layout, but there may be some changes in text flow so check carefully for oversets and headings that might have moved. Try the TOC again...

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Hi all,
I write the documentation for a software package. Recently the package has had two new add-ons that require their own manuals, so I reused my original doc and cleared it out to use for the new packages. All good so far until I want to do the ToC. In the original docs, each bit is split into its own story editor, but with the new manuals everything is all in one story and I think that is causing problems with the ToC because sometimes I'll get sections with nothing in them while other Sections have too many subsections. I've been through and checked my styles, but the only way around it right now is to view the ToC in the Story Editor and drag/drop the subsections to the right places. Right now these new manuals are not even 30 pages each, with four or five sections but this is not a tenable situation. I use InDesign 5.5 under Windows. Anyone got any idea? Obviously more detail can be provided.
Thanks in advance,
B

It looks the same and all the text is still in one Story. Can I split stories?
B

Problem with TOC levels (Bug?)

Hi!
Im using Layout -> Table of contents to generate the TOC for my magazine. My pages basically have two paragraph styles that will be used in the TOC window. They are Section and Tittle, and are defined as paragraph style and well syncronized with the other articles of the magazine, im using a book to organize the files.
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Section1
Tittle2......................4
Section2
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Tittle1.......................3
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It's a Bug on the CS4 for Windows ? Anyone have a problem similiar ?
Thanks

It was the relative position of the section to the tittle frame. Thank you very much!
The Section was in the right corner of the page and the tittle was centered in the midle of the page.
I have made that because the layout of my magazine has the sections on the upper right.
I will have to create a hidden layer in the upper left of the page to solve the problem.
Do you have another solution, or a more elegant solution to solve this situation in particular ?
thank you very much!
best regards

CS4 problem with TOC

Hi there,
I'm working on a book and I've created a table of contents. I've updated the table of contents several times with no problem, but now when I go to Update Table of Contents, I get this message:
You must include one or more paragraph styles in order to create a table of contents.
Obviously, I'm not trying to create a toc - I"m tryign to update the existing one.
I have my cursor in the existing toc when I try to update. As I said, I've updated it several times while working on book -- only now I'm no longer able to update the toc.
Why would the update toc no longer be working?
Thanks so much.
Yael

HI there,
I recreated the TOC and now the update works. I think perhaps I edited the previous TOC within the TOC rather than in the actual documents and perhaps that caused the update problem.
So problem solved.
Yael

Problem with TOC in long book doc

Hi!
I have a book with 16 chapters
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Now, I want to create a TOC at the beginning of the book - using the heading of each chapter's TOC - so I tell it to use that unique Para style (that I used for each chapter)
for some reason after formatting the TOC and checking "use book docs" I get an empty TOC with the word "contents"
any ideas what I may be doing wrong?
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TIA!!!

It's good that you're looking into this before getting started.
Search Google for terms like "indexing books" without quotes.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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Problem with TOC pages and books

I'm using RH 8 and generate Webhelp.
I created a project and had to change some TOC pages and create TOC books instead. I deleted the pages and added books, with the same name. In RH it looks fine but when I generate the TOC displays the page instead of the book. I tried deleting my cache in IE and deleting the page again. Still no help. I rebooted, and even restarted and still got the same thing. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
Thank you.

Hi there
If the page is not actually inside of a Book, the WebHelp generation process will sense that.
If you want a Book, try right-clicking the page in the TOC editor and choose "Create Book from Page". This should create a book with the page inside it. Of course both will have the same name, so you may need to rename the Book. Or rename the page. Your choice.
Cheers... Rick
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Thorny Problem with TOC links

Hi again, I am working on a VERY large eLearning project... I
have about 15 separate CP files, each of around 60 slides in size
with lots of interactivity.
The boss wants one Table of Contents that will "drill down"
to every single page... basically, so that you can get to any piece
of practice in the whole thing from one place.
I built my own TOC, because the one that comes with Captivate
is just impossible to use and doesn't work very well, and this
works to the level that I can put "submenus" at the front of each
individual .CP and then within that .CP link to the individual
pages.
But what I can't figure out is how to have just ONE LARGE TOC
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example, if I wanted my TOC link in the "main.CP" file to jump; to
"practice6.CP/slide 7" ... is there any way to do this... or is it
impossible to do this kind of granularity using Captivate???
Thanks very much... this would be a cool thing if I could
learn how you do it (and if you can do it). Quiz Queen

Hi there Quiz Queen
I'd be very doubtful you would have any real success getting
this granular using Captivate alone. You will likely find you need
to combine it with something else. Maybe a Learning Management
System (LMS) or something like RoboHelp where it could assist in
providing easy navigation among hundreds or thousands of Captivate
projects.
You might also find something like Jesse Warden's Captivate
Player to be just the ticket.
Click
here to visit Jesse Warden's site
Cheers... Rick

Page Indent problem with TOC entries...

I have a few TOC entries running to more than one line. I would like the text to be indented from the existing right indent/margin set-up so that the text does not extend as far as the Page numbers on the right hand margin of the TOC text frame. I have set a right tab so that the page numbers are tabbed over to the right edge of the frame but if I bring the right margin in with more indenting (presently 5mm), I can't have a tab stop for the page outside the right margin.
And if I insert soft-returns/new-line chars they wil get lost every time I rebuild the TOC (there will be a lot of that!)
Any ideas, Im sure this comes up for book designers all the time.

The same way you have a left first line indent, there is a right last line indent. You can set the right indent to (for example) two inches, and the last line right indent to negative two inches, and everything on a single line will go all the way to the right edge of the frame, and any paragraph that requires line breaks will break two inches to the left of the frame's right edge, while the last line will go to the right edge.

TOC problem with RH8

I have a problem with RH8 and the TOC.
1.) Once I generate or publish the project the back and forward buttons above the TOC flash on and off. This is very annoying to the eyes.
How can this be turned off? I don’t want to turn the buttons off I just want the flashing o and off to stop. I want the buttons to still work.
2.) The highlight for the pages in the TOC jumps back and forward highlighting pages I have been to. If the TOC is long and it jumps back to a page at the top of the TOC and I was at the bottom I lose my place of what page I was looking at or which page I going to go to next.
Again how can this be turned off?
There are other problems with RH 8 but that’s for another post.
I work with RH8 every day.

2.) The highlight for the pages in the TOC jumps back and forward highlighting pages I have been to. If the TOC is long and it jumps back to a page at the top of the TOC and I was at the bottom I lose my place of what page I was looking at or which page I going to go to next.
Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thank you

TOC/Script problem with Netscape

I am using RoboHelp (webhelp) 5.5.
I am facing two problem with netscape browser.
1. loading the page itself take long time and show a message
that script on this page is causing mozilla to run slowly.
2. in the TOC when i click the TOC BOOK the content of the
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Hello Robo_Rajesh,
Welcome to the forum.
As a start point, I would suggest you check the following on
Peter Grainge's web site for an explanation.
Click
here.
Hope this helps.
Brian

Problem with ScrollPane and JFrame Size

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I'm not going to even attempt to resolve the problem posted. There are other problems with your code that should take priority.
-- class names by convention start with a capital letter.
-- don't use the name of a common class from the standard API for your custom class, not even with a difference of case. It'll come back to bite you.
-- don't mix awt and Swing components in the same GUI. Change your class that extends Canvas to extend JPanel instead, and override paintComponent(...) instead of paint(...).
-- launch your GUI on the EDT by wrapping it in a SwingUtilities.invokeLater or EventQueue.invokeLater.
-- calling setSize(...) followed by pack() is meaningless. Use one or the other.
-- That's not the correct way to display a component in a scroll pane.
Ah, well, and the problem is that when you call pack(), it retrieves the preferredSize of the components in the JFrame, and you haven't set a preferredSize for the scroll pane.
Please, for your own good, take a break from whatever it is you're working on and go through The Java™ Tutorials: [Creating a GUI with JFC/Swing|http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/uiswing/TOC.html]
db

Span columns problem with Table of Contents order

Hello,
I'm having a strange issue with headings that span columns and Table of contents order. My document has a heading paragraph in a coloured box, which is then inserted in-line into a 2-column text box. The paragraph style for the box (set to in-line) is set to span all columns, so that the 2-columned text doesn't get messed up.
When I create a table of contents, the Heading style that is inside the coloured box is being picked up fine, but even though it is inserted before the headings below it, it is showing up after the level 2 headings, instead of before.
I have confirmed that the insertion of the blue bar is before the text below it, as when I remove the span columns option, the TOC works as it is supposed to. Is this a bug?

Hi there, thanks for the reply.
The only way I could move the inline box to the left was to make a custom anchor and change the X value, this did not affect the TOC unfortunately. I also checked the location of the invisible marker indicating the location of the inline text box, and it is definitely before the heading that follows. I confirmed this by removing the span columns option for that paragraph, and the TOC displayed properly after doing that, meaning there is likely some problem with the span columns option not properly recognizing the order of content.
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Problems with Long Interactive PDFs with Extensive Interactivity via Buttons and Hyperlinks

I have inherited a project which requires the creation of large interactive pdfs with lots of buttons and hyperlinks. I am having continuing problems with buttons not working and long periods of wasted time as attempted exports fail.
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2. How do I stop InDesign from freezing when exporting these large pdfs? It seems to wait until the final steps to crash which sometimes means a 4-6 hour waste of time per export.
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Those are the limitations you have to put up with.
Apple doesn't follow the PDF spec. It chooses which PDF features it will support.
As to the version number (v5 or v6 or the new multimedia features in v9), there is different support in different versions of Reader/Acrobat as the product has developed. You just need to post a message to downloaders that they need to view the file in Adobe Reader version X or above to get the best experience.
Other industry standards face the same problem: How can you add new feature like multimedia? You can't always be backwards compatible.

Problems with RH 9, CBT, and Printed Documentation

When I upgrade an x5 project in the new RH9, all appears to go fine until I try to generate the Printed Documentation. I was disappointed that the printed documentation STILL requires so much cleanup. Text tagged with the Online condition sometimes displays on some topics, even when Online is excluded from the output. Also, some of the cleanup issues surrounding headings and index entries are still necessary.
The four biggest issues are:
1) If a "book" TOC heading also has content (a topic associated with it), a double-heading appears in the printed output. You have to manually remove all these extra headings in the cleanup process.
2) All index entries appear in the paragraph BEFORE the actual heading they mark, instead of after the heading, resulting in the Index not being correct (if a heading appears at the top of the page, the Index points to the previous page where the index entry resides, instead of the correct page). I have to manually go through the entire document and move each index entry to the paragraph AFTER the heading it marks.
3) Robohelp ignores the exclusion of Online conditions on some random topics. There is a workaround to "trick" Robohelp, but it takes *a lot* of time to do. To "trick" Robohelp, I had to generate a printed manual and make a list of all topics that "slipped" through. And, then edit each topic where the online condition was ignored, by adding an extra, empty paragraph to the end of each topic that had:
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4) I noticed that when I opened a topic for the first time in Robohelp, the Online condition sometimes gets applied to incorrectly tagged text (it wasn't tagged this way in the x5 content). This requires me opening each topic in the upgraded project, and checking each topic to make sure the online condition is applied correctly in each one (a very tedious process, especiallly if you have a doc set of over 1 mil words!).
Expected results:
Printed doc does not contain double headings. Index entries appear after headings. Conditional text behaves as it is supposed to behave (and if you tell Robohelp to exclude the ONLINE condition, it does it for ALL topics).
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Mr. Grainge,
Thank you so much for your thoughtful answers back! I appreciate you taking time out to write such a thorough reply. I hope Adobe appreciates you! You're number one in follow ups!
Unfortunately, your answers did not solve my problems. But, you did give me some ideas on where the problems could be occurring. So, thank you!! Before I begin: In answer to your question, yes I *am* using the supplied Style Mapping template (I never had luck with the custom one myself). Also, I am going to hold off on replying to 1) and 2), but I'd like to share my answer on 3) and 4), which is really just what I need to get Printed Documentation working in Robohelp 9 the same way it worked in x5.
A little history: I have a set of about 50 help projects that span many versions of our company's product, and multiple versions of Robohelp (some even go back to the 90s!). They even include some help projects that were originally in Frame/WebWorks but were later ported to Robohelp. There's a lot of history to them.
Investigating the Problem: When I opened an x5 project in RH 9, I noticed that some of the timestamps on the .htm files didn't match the rest of the files. It turned out, that these very same files that were the ones giving me problems with the Conditional text! That's when your thoughts about the mapping came to mind...As I said, my project spanned mutiple versions of Robohelp. I wondered if some of the coding on the .htm page was being parsed incorrectly on upgrade, and if if that was the reason why RH couldn't update the pages (which explain the unchanged timestamps). In other words, I wondered if Robohelp was mapping the styles correctly on import. So, I compared these unupgraded .htm files with ones that did upgrade, to see if there was something on the code page that could be causing the problem.
Solution to Fix 3) and 4) above:
I'm going to list out everything that I did below, however, not everything on this list applies to everyone. But, hopefully it will help you, if you ever run into this scenario yourself, and it might give you some ideas on how to get your HTML files working. So, before upgrading, here is what I did:
I opened my old CSS in a text editor and removed all the Robohelp autogenerated comments.
In Homesite, I did a bunch of Search and Replaces on a copy of the older x5 project. I looked for code that may have been generated in an earlier version of RH,and for unusual structures in the meta and style declaration area that could be causing conflicts. Here is a list of my search and replaces below:
Search for:

Replace With:
nothing
Search for:

Replace With:
nothing
Search for:

Replace With:
nothing
Search for:
<p> </p>
Replace With:
nothing
Search for:
<p> </p>
Replace With:
nothing
Search for:
<html>
<head>
Replace With:
<html>



<head>
Search for:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">

<link href="MyHelp.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">

<script language="javaScript" type="text/javascript" src="MyHelp.js"></script>
<script language="javascript" src="eHlpDhtm.js"></script>
</head>

<body TABINDEX=1>
Replace With:

<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name=generator content="RoboHELP by eHelp Corporation - www.ehelp.com">
<meta name=generator-major-version content=0.1>
<meta name=generator-minor-version content=1>
<meta name=filetype content=kadov>
<meta name=filetype-version content=1>
<meta name=page-count content=1>
<meta name=layout-height content=597>
<meta name=layout-width content=662>

<link href="MyHelp.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">

<script language=javaScript
type="text/javascript"
src="MyHelp.js"></script>
<script language=javascript
src="eHlpDhtm.js"></script>
</head>

<body TABINDEX=1>
Search for:
<a class=toplinks href="#top"> Top</a>
…or…
<a class=toplinks href="#top">Top</a>
Replace With:
<a class=toplinks
href="#top">Top</a>
Search for:
<h3 id=SeeAlsoTitle
class=SeeAlsoTitle
style="x-condition: Online;">See Also</h3>
<div id=seeAlso
Replace With:
<h3 id=SeeAlsoTitle
class=SeeAlsoTitle
style="x-condition: Online;">See Also</h3>
<div id=seeAlso
After I did these all these search and replaces in the copy of the x5 version of the project, I opened the project again in RH 9 and upgraded it. After the upgrade, I checked the timestamps on the .htm files to make sure they all changed. They did! It worked! Everything upgraded properly this time... I tested the Printed Manual output and no conditional text slipped through this time. Yay!
In Summary:
This is what I learned if you are having problems with Conditional text and Printed Manuals in an upgraded RH project:
Always make backups of your older projects before you upgrade anything. I know this is elementary, but I thought it was worth reminding.
Check the timestamps of the files after you upgrade the project. If there are a group of files with timestamps that aren't similar to the rest of the files, chances are Robohelp was having trouble converting those files.
Try looking at the HTML code in those files and see if anything looks out of the ordinary. Some examples are above.
If you have already ported the RH project and it's too late to go back, go look at the file timestamps anyhow. For all the older files, try opening each one in Robohelp and add a space or something (to force RH to change it), and save it. I didn't have the time to verify this, but it seemed on most instances: when I forced RH to save the file manually, it updated correctly and the problem with the conditional text went away. (This option takes longer, especially if you have to do each page individually, but it's worth a try, IMHO.)
Aside from the initial Printed Manual woes, which are resolved, the upgrade process from RH 9 really was seamless! Best I have ever seen! Everything just works! Awesome is a word that comes to mind.
Printed Documentation output does work on upgrade, but in my opinion is: it is no better than it was before, in previous versions.
I wish there were more fixes to the Printed Manual output. When you have a product help system that spans multiple versions, contains over 2.5 million words, and 10,000+ topics, having a lot of cleanup on the production end is costly. What use to take a person on my team less than a day to generate 50+ PDFs in FrameMaker, takes 4-5 weeks man-time in RH. I will outline my opinions in my next reply to this thread.
Thanks again, Mr. Grainge!

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