Process, Block & Container Operation

Hi all,
What is the difference between process and block containers?? Where would a container operation step be adptly used?
I am trying to do a BPM scenario with a send step inside a block and I can't set multiline for a block container. I am little confused. Any help.
-Teresa

Hi Teresa,
Block :
Block is similar to what we use curly braces in most of the languages which defines the scope. For example if we are using loop step in bpm to loop through some variable then we can use block step to restrict the scope of loop step up to some point and block is something similar to defining scope in other prog. languages. the local variables defined in this has a scope of it only and others cannot access the same and block Recieve step is not required just use Send step if it is async message.
Block- is for logical grouping of the process steps
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/f6/e1283f2bbad036e10000000a114084/content.htm
Container :
A transformation step in BPM is a abstraction of message/interface mappings, So u can use a container variable directly inside your message mappings to map container variable to data element.
U can look at the thread : "Container object in Message Mapping" to know how to access the container variable inside your message mapping.
Contaniers - Variables in the Integration process.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/sdn/collaboration.sdn?contenttype=url&content=https%3A//forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa%3FforumID%3D44%26threadID%3D41502.
Regards
Agasthuri Doss
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