Store Filename in Container Operation of BPM?

Hi,
Is it possible to store filename in Container Operation of BPM step? I know that using mapping and assigning that field to Container Operation can be done.
But, is it possible to do without using payload field assignment?
Regards,
Ashish

That seems to be the only possible way. Bcoz the filename in the dynamic header is lost when the message enters BPM.
Regards,
Prateek

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