Process Color to Spot in a PDF??

Hello,
so I have a PDF file that is 100pages for example. This only has black text and nothing else. How can I convert this black process text to spot?? Not page by page such as in Illustrator but all pages together and then export again as PDF with the text in sport color. Thanks in advance!

1 - yes, you can do this with Preflight in Acrobat Pro, but it's not on the default set of fixups.
Open Preflight, select "Single fixups" - the wrench icon
Options > Create New Preflight Fixup
Give it a name (e.g. "process black to spot")
Choose the Color category in the upper right
Choose 'Convert to spot color' in the upper left
Define the source parameters in the main panel (in your case, CMYK%, 0-0-0-100 with tolerance 0)
Define the spot color to change this color into, and the alternative space for rendering (i.e. your blue color)
If you wish, add a check to limit the conversion to certain things (e.g. text, vectors, etc.)
Click OK to save the fixup, then click FIX to apply it. To verify the result, use the Output Preview dialog in Acrobat.

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We have been asked to build InDesign templates for a two-PMS-color math book. The design calls for two PMS colors: a dark blue for most text and red highlights.
Because our Math plug-in doesn't work easily with PMS colors (it defaults to Process black), we hope to create all the “blue” text in Process Black. The press PDFs will have two inks: Process Black and PMS red. On press they will print the black plate in our blue PMS color.
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1 - yes, you can do this with Preflight in Acrobat Pro, but it's not on the default set of fixups.
Open Preflight, select "Single fixups" - the wrench icon
Options > Create New Preflight Fixup
Give it a name (e.g. "process black to spot")
Choose the Color category in the upper right
Choose 'Convert to spot color' in the upper left
Define the source parameters in the main panel (in your case, CMYK%, 0-0-0-100 with tolerance 0)
Define the spot color to change this color into, and the alternative space for rendering (i.e. your blue color)
If you wish, add a check to limit the conversion to certain things (e.g. text, vectors, etc.)
Click OK to save the fixup, then click FIX to apply it. To verify the result, use the Output Preview dialog in Acrobat.

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I have a file submitted to me that has been mangled by another designer. A PANTONE named spot color has been changed to a process color in the Swatches panel. When I try to change it back to "spot", a pop up window appears to say "Cannot edit this color property".
Are there any suggestions to get this to spot?
I've gone through the placed EPS/AI/PDF files to make sure that the named color in those are truly the spot color and not a process color.
I'm using ID CS 5.5.

Add the proper spot color and delete the process one.
You’ll be prompted to replace objects with the process color. Choose the spot.
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Recently I created a file in Illustrator CS6 with several Pantone color swatches. I used the CMYK color mode set to the Coated GRACoL 2006 color space. I saved the file as an EPS and we printed our test samples on our large format printer. After reviewing the print I saw the colors were off. The grey color showed up green.I then opened up the exact same EPS file and simply saved it as a PDF. We ran the PDF on the same printer, using the same material and profile and the color was completely different. This time the grey colors came out grey (correctly). We tested this twice and came up witht he same color differences between the EPS files and the PDF files. Why would an Illustrator file produce 2 different colors if saved as a PDF versus an EPS?
Also, I sent these files to another prepress person in our company and he printed them on our proofing printer. The EPS printed slightly differently than the PDF. He then opened the PDF file in Acrobat and saved it out of Acrobat as an EPS. After this, he printed the new EPS file created from Acrobat and it printed the exact same as the PDF file (correctly).
This leads me to believe that the problem is in the way Illustrator saves EPS files. Has anyone else seen this problem?
Thanks for any and all help with this very perplexing issue.

I will speak from CS3.
The current PDF format if 1.7 exported out of Photoshop supports vector elements as independent objects, but you can't edit them correctly out of Acrobat because Photoshop reads the data as a flat file and drops the vector data. Basically the workflow is not finished being developed. Also, Transparency is broken within the PDF file format at this time. It will support Spots though correctly.
PSD and TIF support Transparency and Spots, but vector objects are rasterized due Acrobat reading the flat version of the file.
When Photoshop wrote its own PDF format and not the corporate PDF flavor that we now have, PDF's would support Transparency correctly.
I would assume that Transparency and vector objects would be addressed in the next release, but that is to be seen.
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Finding spot color and process color

Dear all,
I used the following code to find the spot color used in the document.
var length=app.activeDocument.spots.length;
for(i=0;i<length;i++){
alert(app.activeDocument.spots[i].color);
It is showing CMYK Color as the output.
Can anyone tell me wheather it is a correct output.I want to identify all the spot color in the current active document.
Also please help me finding out the Process color used in the document.What is the diffence between these two ?
Regards,
Sanat

Sanat,
Even if a color is Spot, it still has to have CMYK or RGB values (depending on the color mode of the document) to tell Illustrator what color to display it as.
Beyond that, though, you're going to run into another problem anyway: Any Swatch that is defined as Global is going to be counted as a Spot Color. (I've been complaining about this for years.)
For example:
var docRef=app.activeDocument;
var count=docRef.spots.length;
alert(count);
for(i=0;i<count;i++){
alert(docRef.spots[i].name);
Run that in a CMYK document in which you have removed all unused palette items. You'll find that it returns [Registration] as a spot color, just because it's set to Global. Now doubleClick the Black Swatch. Set it to Global (but not Spot). The sript will tell you there are two Spot colors.
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You can create a spot color with a custom CMYK mix (and even name it the same as a library color if you want). The utility here is that you can create a custom spot color with a custom process conversion, or use your own own conversion numbers for one of the book colors if you think you have a better mix. I recently had to do a special mix for a Pantone spot conversion to fit a particualr press in order to get a better match to some other materials. That's how we handled it, though I did it by aliasing the pantone swatch to my custom spot and then changing that to process in the ink manager, rather than messing with the library color directly, which meant I could have either the custom or the book values, depending on the settings I chose, if the job went to another press.
There are, I believe, four sets of process libraries included in ID. The Pantone Process libraries are sets of stepped percentage mixes of the four process inks and have names that start with DS followed by some numbers. I think TrueMatch is a simialr system, though I've never worked with a printer who used it. Pantone Color Bridge and Solid to Process libraries are both process simulations of the Pantone Solid spot libraries. The Color Bridge is newer, and I think is largely replacing the solid to process.
You can get printed swatch books for any of the included libraries (spot and process) and you should do so for any library that you are going to use to specify color. Spot colors in particular may not render well on your monitor, and the press operator couldn't care less what you see on your screen. He's going to pull out his swatch book to verify that the color he puts on the page is the same as you specified.

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Hello Everyone.........
Can anyone help me in changing spot colors to Process Colors in Page Maker. I'm new with this.
Thanks & Regards

double click the color.
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I have a book that my boss is wanting printed. This book is filled with RGB / Spot colors. I've discovered that if I go to the "ink manager" I can check the box "All Spots to Process", but the strange thing is after doing that I check in my swatches pannel and discover that nothing was converted. What's up with that? I also found a handy script for converting all RGB colors to CMYK, but I have yet to locate a script to convert all spot to process colors in the swatches pannel. Anyone know where I can get a script for that?

If you are using OSX try this AppleScript:
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My packaging shows 4 process inks even though there is only a black and white image. My pdf image was first saved as a grayscale. When that didn't work, I converted it to a Gray Gamma 2.2 Grayscale in Acrobat and "saved as" my image. It still shows up as a 4 process color. Interestingly, when I check separations, it shows up as only black.
To check my InDesign, I completely removed everything from the document and left a blank page. The packaging still shows 4 color process.
Verified in Ink Manager that Convert Spot to Process is not checked.
Is there anything else I need to check?

No, but undo the Gray Gamma 2.2. I am not familair with the result, and may be appended, but it is not necessary.
There will always be the CMY channels listed in Adobe Products; you correctly verified only black is in use via the Seperations Preview.
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Hi,
Hope you're doing well.
I am just starting to learn about colors and printing.
I have a job I am working on where the printer requires the Pantone colors. The person who originally created the file kept them as CMYK.
I have been converting them to Pantones by using the Edit/Edit Colors/re-color artwork feature where you then choose a Pantone library and Illustrator converts it to a Pantone.
However, with one color conversion, it didn't give me a number, it gave me "Pantone Process Yellow C." Does that mean it is still CMYK?
Thanks!

You are not correct. What you call Pantone colour, in this example, is more accurately called a spot ink. Spot inks can be produced by many companies and specified using any of those companies’ systems or none at all. Pantone is simply the most well known. Pantone also has a library of process colours, with a corresponding swatch book they would love to sell you. I have two of them, one for coated paper, one for uncoated.
Using spot colours can reduce the number of inks used to print a job, but that is not their primary purpose. The range of colours you can reproduce using process CMYK inks on white paper (also known as the gamut) is large, but limited. Also, most of those colours require one or more of those inks to be screened. If you want to exactly match a specific colour, like the red on a can of Coke, then your only option may be to use spot inks.
If you have fine details like small type that uses colour, you will get a more legible result if you print using a single solid spot ink than if you use two or more inks, any or all of which may print as a screen. Spot inks can also increase the number of inks in a job if they are combines with process colours or if you have more than four spot inks.
If you are printing on non-white paper, but need the ink colour to be exact, then process colours will not work since they are translucent. Most spot inks are as well, but they can be very opaque.
Pantone and other companies produce special inks with metallic components that simply cannot be reproduced any other way.
Each ink used requires another plate on a press and uses up one station on the press. Most offset presses have at least six stations, but there is no limit beyond cost and space. I have prepared files that use ten stations for printers that have eight station presses. This requires running the job twice through the same press or running it a second time through another press, whichever the printer thinks is more appropriate or economical. I forget, in this case, which of these were done.
The ten stations were four process colours, two spot inks, one flood varnish (covering the whole sheet) one spot varnish, one embossing die, and one cutting die. Now that I think about it, it is obvious that the last two could be done on anything that supports them since there is no ink and a much looser requirement for registration.

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