Process Industry - Quantity Conversion

Dear All,
Scenario : We are creating a liquid form of material through process order say 1000 kg. The value is Rs 1000. When the same material is used as a semifinished goods for other product the quantity produced in liquid form will be converted to solid form for costing purpsoe say 500 kgs(500 is liquid portion and 500 is solid portion). The consumpution issue will happen for 1000 kgs but from costing point of view the cost should be consider only for the solid content say 500 kgs at value 1000 Rs. How to map this scenario in SAP
Regards
Vasantha

Hi
You can have alternate unit of measurement which can be done from MM. You can do it in Material master in the Addition Data Tab, you would find alternate unit of measure & Conversion tabs, where you can say 1kg=X ltrs. You can give the prices in Purchase order, Info Record etc., in Ltrs also.
But for Costing purposes, there would never be any alternate unit of measurement to the best of my knowledge.
Regards,
Suraj

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