Procurement of external services in production orders

Dear Sirs,
We need to procure external service in production order as is done in maintenance order using a control key like PM03, it means, we need to create, automatically, purchase requisition with item category D (service). Therefore transaction COR1 (production order creation) doesn't allow to use any kind of control key which has T430-SERVICE flagged.
Do you have any idea how to solve this?
Best Regards,
Carlos Daniel

Please update the control key that you are using for this activity under -
IMG>Production>Capacity Requirements Planning>Routing data>Define control key
Here, you have to flag the check box " Schedule Ext. Operation" & maintain the " Ext Processing indicator"
Thanx!!

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actually i ddnt checke dthe cost in the cost tab,
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hi,
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1) IN SERVICES Purchase order , Over delivery Tolerance and unlimited TOLERANCE can be defined at two places ,
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1) when you are creating Service PO , you may enter service no. or just a short text . And in the item level service tab you enter the detailed service list . Now when you enter the overdelivery and unlimited details at
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