Product Costing - Planning & Actuals
Hi All
I'm new to Product Costing. I dnt have much of functional knowledge aswell. I want to how the Planning Values & the actuals values are calculated in SAP thru PC. May be if you can explain me with an example, it wld be of grt help to me. I want PC for Make to Stock scenario. Expecting your reply.
Regards
Rajaram
Dear,
I will explain with an example.
Main product is A, Raw materials are B,C & D. Let us assume that relationship between FERT & ROH is 1:1 ,
So for manufacturing 100 EA of A we need 100 EA of B,C & D.
Next let us assume that there is one operation involved in the shopfloor. The machine rate per hour (200 Rs) & the Labor rate per hour (300 Rs) . Let us say for manufacturing 100 EA it involves 2 hours of M/C & Labor.
The overhead costs of the company is 50 % of the operation cost (this percentage is maintained in the costing sheet against the secondary cost elements of the activity types).
Say there is a sub-contracting process involved which costs around 100 Rs per 100 EA of A.
Given the above conditions ,when you do the cost estimate the system will arrive at the cost of the product as follows.
Product A
Material Cost
Component Qty Per unit Cost Total Cost
B 100 2 200
C 100 1 100
D 100 2.5 250
Operation Cost
Activity Hours Per hour Rate Total Cost
Machine 2 200 400
Labor 2 300 600
Overhead
Overhead is 50 % of total operation cost = 1000 * 0.5 = 500
External Processing Costs
Sub-contracting = 100
Total Cost of Goods Manufactured = 2150
Price of 1 A is 21.5 Rs.
Hope this explains you the four main segments invovlved in the product costing clearly.
Thanks & Regards,
Vijaya Bhaskar A
Edited by: Vijaya Bhaskar A on Jan 11, 2009 1:01 PM
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There are 3 product costing courses:
AC505 - focus on product cost planning. for example, from BOM, routing to estimated / simulated cost.
AC520 - focus on ACTUAL cost scenario ,for example , make-to-stock , make -to order, sales, service, periodic
AC530 - focus on special module Material Ledger , for industries to get the actual cost (more precise)
so I understand that you start on Planning, so AC505 is the right course.
But I recommend to attend AC520 as well to understand the actual cost flow . so you can compare plan and actual together.
and if you like the most accurate cost , and implement ML (material ledger) - AC530 is another one.
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/people/young.sun/blog/2010/05/17/how-to-configure-mixed-costing
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Edited by: Young Sun on Oct 7, 2010 7:50 AMHi,
Followings are the steps for configure the mixed costing in sap
A. Create a Procurement Altternative in CK91N for each of the 4 prod version... Choose process category = Production in CK91N
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create a Qty Structure Type in IMG - Controlling > Product Cost Controlling > Product Cost Planning > Selected Functions in Material Costing > Mixed Costing
> Define Quantity Structure Types - Define Qty Str Type here and assign it in the next step
> Define Costing Versions - Assign Qty Str Type to your costing version 1 and Costing Type
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However this is the error message I get when I try and execute the report.
Can someone please advise on how to fix this probs. Above all, please explain in plain english what the message is all about.
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"Report contains more than one report object"
Message no. KN089
Diagnosis
The report is for more than one report object. This causes performance problems. This is not supportedc in product costing in particular."Report contains more than one report object"
Message no. KN089
Diagnosis
The report is for more than one report object. This causes performance problems. This is not supportedc in product costing in particular.
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Cheers..!!HI,
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Costing variant has the following components:
<b>Define Costing Types
Define Valuation Variants
Define Date Control
Define Quantity Structure Control
Define Transfer Strategy
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<u>Costing type:</u>
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Update Cost Estimate
Standard price Standard cost estimate (01)
Tax-based price Inventory cost estimate
Commercial price Inventory cost estimate
Price other than std price Modified standard cost estimate or
current cost estimate
No update Any cost estimate
Define Valuation Variants:
Define Valuation Variants
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Valuation Strategies
Material valuation
Here you define the sequence in which the system searches for prices from the accounting view or costing view of the material master record to valuate materials. You can also access prices from purchasing info records and condition types.
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Activity Types / Processes
Here you define the sequence in which the system searches for prices in activity type planning or actual activity price calculation in Cost Center Accounting or Activity-Based Costing to valuate the utilized activity types and business processes.
You also specify which plan/actual version is used.
Subcontracting
Here you define the sequence in which the system searches for prices in the purchasing info record. In purchasing, quota arrangements are used to create a mixed price for materials that are manufactured with external vendors with parts provided by the customer. You can specify whether the quota of the individual vendors that are entered in the source list for the material to be processed should be determined through the planned quota arrangement or the actual quota arrangement.
External processing
Here you define the sequence in which the system searches for prices in the purchasing info record or routing operation for valuation of the external activities.
Strategy Sequence
You define the individual valuation methods for the valuation variant as strategy sequences. For the valuation of the material components you define a strategy sequence that reads the fields of the material master record in a particular sequence such as:
1. Planned price 1
2. Standard price
3. Moving price
The first price that is not zero is used to valuate the material component.
Target versions:
Target cost versions are used in the following ways:
In variance calculation:
To control which variance (total variance, production variances or planning variance) is calculated
To valuate unplanned scrap( scrap variance)
Unplanned scrap is valuated in the period-end closing activities when the variances are calculated. You can specify in a valuation variant for WIP and scrap which cost estimate you want to use to calculate the target costs for the valuation of unplanned scrap. You assign the valuation variant to target cost version 0 if you want to include it in the valuation of scrap.
When you are using a cost object hierarchy with active distribution, you use the target cost version to control which cost estimate the system uses to calculate the target costs, which are used as the basis for determining equivalences for actual cost distribution.
The actual costs collected at the level of the hierarchy are distributed across the orders in accordance with these equivalences. This distribution is proportional to the target costs for the cost element under which the actual costs are written. Actual costs for material costs are distributed in proportion to the target costs for the origin group, such as for the material, if you have entered an origin group in the costing view of the material master record and have set the indicator Material origin, for example.
If no target costs were calculated under this cost element, enter a cost element group in the target cost version. The actual costs are distributed in proportion to the target costs for this cost element group. This cost element group should be complete. If costs were updated under a cost element that is not in this cost element group, no distribution is possible.
You can calculate equivalences on the basis of SAP standard target cost versions 0, 1 and 3.
The standard system supplies the following target cost versions:
Target cost version 0 ( total variance)
The amount of the total variance generates a posting in Financial Accounting during settlement.
For this version, select actual costs as the control costs and standard cost estimate as the target costs.
Target cost version 1 ( production variance)
For this version you choose actual costs as the control costs and planned costs as the target costs.
Target cost version 2( planning variance)
With target cost version 2, the costs from the preliminary order cost estimate are interpreted as control costs.
For this version, select planned costs as the control costs and current cost estimate as the target costs. You cannot calculate planning variances for the product cost collector.
Target cost version 3 (production variance of the period)
You compare the planned costs of the period calculated on the basis of an alternative material cost estimate (such as a modified standard cost estimate) with the actual costs of the period on the basis of the yield delivered to stock in the period.
The base quantity for variance calculation is the yield.
For this version, you choose the actual costs as the control costs and the alternative material cost estimate as the target costs. To determine the alternative material cost estimate, enter a costing variant and choose a costing version.
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Experts:- plz clarrify this one:-
2. what is the difference between:-
a.product cost planning,
b.cost object controlling
c.sales order costing.Hi,
Product cost planning is used to calculate the standard costs of the Materials. For which we need to prepare one cost sheet which calculates the overheads used in Production and cost component structure which includes all the cost elements with which the product is costed(materials,activities etc). In planning we create a Costing variant to capture / calculate the standard cost of the product. Costing variant is again a combination of valuation variant(which includes the strategy to calculate ur materials i.e. whether standard price or mov avg price,costing sheet etc.), date control, qty structure control etc. Planning can be done in 2 ways. 1 with qty structure and 2 without qty structure. with qty structure uses a bom and routing selection and without qty structure does not. When we run a standard cost estimate the system calculates the cost of the material based on the settings we make in planning.
After making settings for the planning we need to make settings for costing the object i.e order, Cost collector etc. Cost object controlling settings are different for Order, Period(repetitive) and Sales order Production types.
In cost object controlling we need 2 more costing variants.one for calculating and capturing planned costs as per ur BOM and another for calcualting the actuals which we confirm during production(sap standard ones will be used generally for both). Once the production is confirmed, the system calculates the variance i.e. the difference between ur standard cost and the actuals. Apart from order settings we also need to make settings for calculating WIP, Variance and Settlement of Order or Cost Collector in Cost object controlling.
Sales order costing is one type of production like make to stock, make to order, repetitive. unlike others, in sales order costing production is done based on the sales order of the customer. Generally FMCG and other consumer goods are produced with make to stock and order.
Hope this would help u.
Pls assign points if useful.
Regards,
Vishnu. -
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Does any one created Product Costing customized Info Cube?
I am new to BI , I would like to create customized Info Cube and use this Cube to BOBJ.
Do we have any standard Info Cube in BI for Product Costing, so that i can customize.
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MuvvaHi,
Product Costing Cubes and DS,
CUBES & QUeris and DS Info):
0PC_C01 : Cost Object Controlling
0COPC_C07 : Actual Costing / Material Ledger u2013 Cost Component Split
0COPC_C08 : Product Cost Planning u2013 All Cost Estimates ( DS : 0CO_PC_PCP_01)
Queries on :
The following queries can access this InfoCube:
0COPC_C08_Q0001: Cost Estimate: Overview, All Cost Estimates for a Material
0COPC_C08_Q0002: Cost Estimate: Detailed Report, Cost Component Split
0COPC_C08_Q0003: Cost Estimate: Detailed Report, Fixed and Variable Costs
0COPC_C08_Q0004: Cost Estimate: Detailed Report, Level/Lower Level Costs
For more Info :
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/64/0a6937adf79120e10000009b38f842/frameset.htm
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