Profit Center Accounting in New GL

Hi All,
Need your help in PCA.
Activated New GL with PCA as splitting characteristic.
Have not assigned Profit Center to Cost Center master as there is no clear linkage.
When posting an expense document, system picks up "Dummy" profit center and overrides what ever profit center is written manually. Now how to prevent this from being overwritten ? I have tried validation but that also does not help.
Regards,
Rohit

Hi Andreas,
This is exactly what I want to avoid. If no "Dummy" profit center is created in the system, the system would prompt for a profit center at the time of posting the document. But without a dummy profit center, I am not ablt to use profit center allocation and post to PC directly. I keep getting the message that PC settings in controlling area are incomplete. Is there any way where I can use PC allocations and post to PC directly without using dummy profit center ?
regards,
Rohit

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