Profit Centre Hierarchy Change and Profit Centre Budget

Hello Friends
For better view of Profit Centre Reports we are planing to change the Profit Centre Hierarchy.
I wanted to know that, are there some Specific Points which we have to take care of, before changing the Hierarchy?
Will some other settings get affected in System after changing the Hierarchy?
Also i want to know the TCode for entering Profit Centre Budget in System.
regards
prashant

Hi,
Profit centre planning (there is no budget for profit centres) is entered via 7KE1 transaction. If you change your hierarchy you should think of the effect on your reporting and allocation processes. That is if you use certain group in your cost allocation cylce and now you change it, it might have an effect on costs distribution.
Regards,
Eli

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Extract from help.sap.com
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Use of Work Center Hierarchies
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hello thanx for your reply.
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