PSE Organizer 10 Folder View Help

Does anyone know how to make Elements Organizer 10 show photos from a directory and all it's sub-directories? All Elements Organizer 10 seems to show are the files in the selected directory. Elements 8 had a Preference choice which allowed the user to decide if only the files in the selected directory would be shown or all the sub-directories as well. This choice seems to have disappeared in version 10. Thanks for the help.

Thanks Ktoblesky. I was afraid of that. I guess I won't be upgrading to Elements 10 ater all. Maybe if some Adobe programmers are reading this maybe they can get the word out inside Adobe. If version 11 restores this feature then I will happily part with my hard earned money. Until then I will continue to use version 8.

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Moving files/folders in Folder view to new drives/partions etc?

If I open the Organizer in Folder view mode & drag a folder or individual pictures to another location will each the pathway to each individual picture be updated by PSE 10? The reason that I ask is that I would like the Organizers pathway to better reflect the actual locations of my Hard drive.
If this works will doing this also work across different hard drives & partitions?
It would be nice to end up with folder sub folder tree to closely reflect that of the Organizer

Yes just drag and drop.
It’s easier putting everything in say My Pictures. Sometimes external hard drives are right at the bottom of the left hand panel and dragging whilst expanding the tree can be a bit tricky.

Folder view like in Picasa with PSE 8 Organizer

Hi!
Is it possible to have a folder view similar to the one in Picasa?
Martin

The whole point of the PSE Organizer is to provide you with a better way to organize your photos than using folders. That better way is using PSE structures like tags, captions, notes. So the PSE Organizer has limited ability to display folders; the folder structure you see in PSE is the only way to display folders.

Problem With Elements 10 Organizer Showing Wrong Files in Folders (In Folder View)

I just got started using Elements 10 on Windows XP and have had some problems with the Organizer. Once it was installed and had cataloged all my photos, I made sure to only move files and folders to different locations from within Organizer. However, now it seems to have lost track of which photos are in which folder. It will "remember" that there are 3 photos in a folder (in Folder View) and only show three photos in that folder, but they will be 3 random photos from a different location. Opening that item shows that thumbnail and referenced file are the same, so it isn't just a thumbnail problem. And looking in the actual folder with Windows Explorer shows that right photos. I'm not sure if I should run an Optimize or Repair on the catalog or if there is something else I can do to fix the problem. I don't need to use Folder View too often, but sometimes I do and I use it to reorganize the actual locations of files. Not sure what would happen if I did it now (with the obvious catalog confusion).
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
torreyindy

Image size. I have been scanning old 35mm images. Any image greater than about 8100 pixels causes thumbnails to fail - this sounds like being around 2 to the power of 23 but what a really odd combinatin that is.
8100 pixels? All of my photos are larger than that, and I don't have this problem. Do you mean 8100 pixels on a side? There is a known limitation in PSE that photos above a certain pixel size on a side cannot be displayed in the Organizer. I no longer remember what that size is, perhaps someone else can chime in. Scanning your images to be 8100 pixels on a side would be overkill for me; however maybe for you its an important thing to do.
I have about 10,000 photos in the catalog but need to load up about another 5,000 historic images, and we take about 1,500 images per annum.
This is not a problem for PSE.
I have played with databases, so if i can get into the organizer database (at least to do backups), ideally with Access, that would be brilliant. Any suggestions?
If you are going to play with the database through Acess, I think you will fail. I believe that PSE uses SQLite as its database, so you have to use SQLite to view the contents. If you are going to do this, work only on a copy of the database. As this is a long-standing bug in PSE (since at least PSE6), and no one that I know of has found a workaround, and people have reported that the rest of PSE behaves as if the photos are where they are expected to be, my guess is that the bug is in the way PSE displays the photo location in folders. And if that's the case, that the database is correct and its only the display that is incorrect, then there's really nothing you can do to fix that; monkeying around with the database itself won't help.
whereas I had complete confidence in Adobe products being a long time Photoshop fan, I am now taken aback, so any help would be much appreciated.
I agree with you, this is a shame that PSE has this problem and it has gone unfixed since PSE6. Your choices are:
use tags and captions and notes to organize in Thumbnail view, and not use Folder Location View
stop using Organizer, use your operating system to browse your folders, only use the PSE Editor
switch to Lightroom, which has a quality Organizer (called the "Library Module") that doesn't seem to have this particular bug, and in general seems very solid, behaves well and is relatively bug free. (Lightroom 3 currently on sale in the vicinity of $79 (USD) as the anticipation is that Lightroom 4 will be released soon)
switch to other organizing software, there are many, but I make no recommendations as I have tried only PSE and Lightroom

Organizer folder view doesn't show pictures

All of my pictures on my computer have been imported into Organizer (PSE 9). When I choose the display option of "Folder location," and click on one folder, sometimes the pictures show and sometimes they don't. And some of the pictures show and some don't. Most of the folders show no pictures. Right now I want to edit a picture but I cannot get to it in Organizer because in the folder it's in, only 3 of maybe 20 pictures show and it is not one of them. Many pictures show in Windows(7) Explorer that have never shown in Organizer.

Hi ,
Have you imported the files in Organizer. If not then right click on the desired folder shown on the left hand side in Folder View. Choose the third option which says 'Import to Organizer' to import and view all of the folder's files in Organizer.
If I have understood the problem incorrectly and you have already imported those files to Organizer then try this : Switch to thumbnail view for a while. Search and select the file you want to work on. While the file is still selected in thumbnail view, choose to switch to Folder View to verify if the file is still not shown in Folder View ?
Hope this helps. Thanks

PSE 7 Sort order in file folder view

In Thumbnail view I can order the photos by oldest first or newest first. When I change my display option to folder view the photos do not display in any order. Not the order taken (oldest to newest) or (newest to oldest) or by filename. I am unable to determine the logic that is applied in folder view. Further, I can not locate a sort tool either in folder view. I am running Vista, and am new to PSE. I have been running Macintosh with iPhoto, so this is my mindset. Any migration advice from iPhoto Mac to Vista PSE7 would also be of interest.
Barry in St. Louis

Ernst,
The PSE Organizer is designed for organizing photos by date/time and keyword tags, not folders and filenames. So most people find that once their photos have the right date/time, they can profitably ignore folders and filenames. A couple of suggestions for getting all your photos to have the right date/time:
1. Adjust the date/time of each folder of images as described in the previous message, so they all have the correct date/time. That may be a little tedious, but if you have 20 different such folders, youll be done soon enough. Then in the Organizers Thumbnail view, all the photos will be arranged by date/time.
2. Create a new album in the Organize pane. Then put each folder of images with wrong date/times into the album. Then click on the album name in the Organize pane to show just those images. Now you can freely rearrange their order within the album. Once theyre ordered correctly, you can select all of them and use Edit > Adjust Date And Time to shift them to the correct starting time(s).

Photoshop Elements 11 Organizer: Full screen view of lower quality than with PSE 10 and before?!

Upgrading from PSE 10 to 11, I noticed that when I watch my images with the organizer in PSE 11 in full screen view mode (F11), while the images load faster, they are shown in a lower quality than in PSE 10 or any other version of PSE that I owned before. In PSE 11, after the initial viewing in full screen (in the "fit screen" mode), when I click with the mouse on an image to display the "100%" view, there is a delay and the program says "Loading...", after which the 100% view in the full screen mode appears. When I then click another time with the mouse on the image to get back to "fit screen" mode, I get an image of better quality than during the initial view!
So it seems like the program first gives a faster, but lower quality view of the image in full screen mode, and only after the user requests a 100% view, it actually loads the image with full detail, which is then preserved when going back to the "fit screen" view. This is a serious issue for me, because I also use PSE organizer to present my pictures to other people, and I don't want to show them some lower quality versions of my images, but the full quality ones, without having to first choose "100% view" and then go back to "fit screen".
How can I make the PSE 11 organizer give me a full-quality full screen image right away, as this used to be the case in PSE10 and before?
(I have both versions, PSE 11 and PSE 10, now on the same computer and tested this to confirm that the PSE 11 initial full screen view is of lower quality than the PSE 10 one. Also in PSE 10, there is practically no delay for displaying the "100%" view afterwards, indicating that the image was loaded with full detail right away.)

- Update:
* Adobe's senior support level has replied to me about this issue as follows:
"Thank you for contacting Adobe.
When you press the F11 button, Organizer 11 uses the Bicubic
interpolation mainly because it is less processor intensive compared to
Bicubic Sharper, and it helps to create the preview on the fly, rather
than based on the thumbnail cache.
When you zoom out from the 100% view, Elements Organizer uses Bicubic
Sharper. This is because Bicubic Sharper is used for image reduction, so
if the 100% view is larger than the available screen space, it will need
to shrink. The Bicubic Sharper images may look more crisp however, Like
any sharpening algorithm, Bicubic Sharper introduces halos and
edge-enhancement artifacts. Those halos are typically slight, but any
further sharpening (which you'll need when preparing an image for print,
for example) will exaggerate them.This is expected behavior. The
Organizer isn't great for determining exact quality, I recommend you to
use Elements Editor for this purpose.
Thank you,
Bobby Johnson,
Adobe Technical Support."
* My reply on this to Adobe is:
"Hello Bobby,
thank you for your reply. Now at least we are talking about the same thing.
Why I am wondering about the choice to use the "Bicubic" algorithm when pressing F11 in PSE 11 is that all previous versions of PSE that I owned (which spans from PSE 6 to PSE 10) did use the "Bicubic Sharper" algorithm right away when pressing F11. So apparently Adobe didn't worry about processor intensity of this algorithm then, and computers are getting all the time more powerful.
It is true that in some situations, the "Bicubic Sharper" algorithm may introduce halos and edge-enhancement artifacts, as you write. On the other hand, especially on smaller resolution screens, the results of the "Bicubic Sharper" algorithm may look more crisp and lively, while the ones of the "Bicubic" algorithm may look more flat and lack fine detail. This is not only my personal opinion, but as I have brought up this topic in several forums, I can see that I am not alone here.
So assuming that the question about preferring "Bicubic Sharper" or "Bicubic" as a default algorithm when pressing F11 is partly a matter of taste, and partly a matter of the hardware the user has available, why can Abobe not give the user an option to choose which one he/she would prefer? For instance, F11 gives full screen view with "Bicubic" applied, and CTRL+F11 with "Bicubic sharper"? Or make this an option in the preferences?
As I am using the PSE organizer also to present pictures to other people (and I know many people who use it that way too), I would like to show them my pictures as sharp and detail-rich as possible. Therefore, I would highly appreciate an option as described above to be implemented in the PSE 11 organizer via an update. It should be fairly easy from a programming point of view, since both algorithms are already contained in the program anyway."
* If you support this suggestion of mine as stated above, please also contact Adobe accordingly! The more support requests they get for this, the more likely it is that they will implement this update! You may mention my case number 0184046323 for reference.

How can I make folder view the default view when I open Organizer?

I just bought Adobe Elements Photshop and Premier 11. I spent 2 to 3 hours getting my picture video library into Adobe's organizer. I had some problems with duplicate picture (that I wanted to be there - so I had to rename them) and a couple pictures with corrupted metadata. After I got all that sorted out I am a bit miffed about the folder view on Adob'es organizer.
I love that you can switch to folder view - since this is how I have been organizing my pictures for a long time. I would like to continue organizing this way for now until I get a grasp on the other ways I can organize them in elements. However, every time I close and re-open organizer it switches back to the default view instead of folder view. PLEASE tell me that there is a way to set folder view to the default view! HELP!

99jon wrote:
Perhaps it’s a design feature to speed up the Organizer launch.
I am sure it is.
- The normal use of the Organizer is not the folder view, it's the thumbnail view with an organization based on categories and folder. That way you should forget completely where your pictures are stored. Anyway, the folder view in the Explorer is not a map of the location of the different bits of your file, it's only a logical representation. That's easy to see when you are doing a defragmentation.
- The folder view is useful even for those using normally the thumbnail view, but that is only for rare cases when you must change the folder organization, for instance moving files to another drive. The folder view is here to prevent you from changing things from the explorer and outside of the Organizer.
- The new folder list view, which you find 'funny' is there to help better organizing using tags. Its huge advantage is that such a view is created extremely quickly by extracting the last subfolder in the media table : it's the way the database sees the folders, based on its own content, totally ignoring the complex folder organization of your disk with media files or any unrelated other kind of data. You should use it in many cases, the main purpose being assigning tags when you have assigned descriptive folder names. I had suggested such a solution to prevent the long standing bugs in the folder view of previous versions.
So yes, the purpose is:
- to speed up switching modes
- to help folder organization fans to migrate to tags organization
- to hopefully get rid of the old folder organization bugs

PSE 7 confusion about folder location, help needed

Here's some background: I'm using PhotoShop Elements 7 on Win XP. I have an external firewire hard drive I use for overflow/backups. Originally, this showed up as a K: drive on my system.
I added a RAID controller and two more drives to stripe as a single drive for temp space rendering movies. This ended up as a K: drive and the external moved to L: However, when I did this there were some pictures from my catalog that I had on the external drive. I have used File > reconnect missing files to handle the moves, but PSE is still confused (very).
PSE has started to mix up the RAID (K:) and external (L:) content. If I move a set of pictures (e.g. a folder of them) onto the external drive (L:) via drag and drop in the folder location view, the folder will show up empty on the L: heirarchy, but will show up as a gray folder icon in the K: RAID drive hierarchy. If I open up windows explorer, the RAID drive will appear empty. In other cases (I'm not sure when/how yet), pictures physically end up on the RAID drive itself instead of the external. I have uninstalled both the external drive and the RAID drive and reinstalled them both, but they are still getting confused in the folder view by PSE. I've also tried moving content outside of PSE and just reconnecting missing files, but it still wants to put things under the K: RAID drive instead of the external L:.
I've searched everywhere I can think of for a description of what gray folder icons in the folder location view means and can find none. I'm not sure how to convince PSE that there's nothing on the RAID K: drive and it shouldn't try to connect the two. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Jim

Thank you! I ran psedbtool and the output shows the catalog has the wrong drive letter for the L: drive.
Is there a way to make PSE forget about the K: and L: drives that it is so confused about so that it can relearn of their existence? If I use the drive letter reassignment to fix PSE, it will break other apps that are now dependent on the current drive letter assignments. I've tried removing all files from the L: drive, but it's still remembered as part of the catalog.
Thanks,
Jim
psedbtool version 1.07
Opening catalog C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\Catalogs\Moms pics\catalog.pse7db
Photoshop Elements version:      7
Total files               :   4833
Total files missing       :      0
Total files offline       :    278
Total files wrong volume :      0
****** Volumes with warnings: 1
PSE Volume Table
Path used by PSE        : F:
Type                    : builtin_drive
Status                  : online
Total files             : 0
Total files missing     : 0
Total files wrong volume: 0
Description             : MEDIA
Serial                  : 1C2F-9805
Drive_path_if_builtin   : F:
Id                      : 32520
Path used by PSE        : M:
Type                    : builtin_drive
Status                  : online
Total files             : 938
Total files missing     : 0
Total files wrong volume: 0
Description             : FreeAgent Drive
Serial                  : 7830-2970
Drive_path_if_builtin   : M:
Id                      : 93626
Path used by PSE        : E:
Type                    : builtin_drive
Status                  : online
Total files             : 0
Total files missing     : 0
Total files wrong volume: 0
Description             : GAMES
Serial                  : 025A-4B70
Drive_path_if_builtin   : E:
Id                      : 93625
Path used by PSE        : L:
Type                    : builtin_drive
Status                  : online
Total files             : 114
Total files missing     : 0
Total files wrong volume: 0
Description             : FreeAgent Drive
Serial                  : 60AE-A816
Drive_path_if_builtin   : K:
Id                      : 31354
***** WARNING *****     : Wrong drive letter in catalog
Path used by PSE        : \\dmzhost\media
Type                    : network_drive
Status                  : offline
Total files             : 278
Total files missing     : 0
Total files wrong volume: 0
Description             : //dmzhost/media
Serial                  : //dmzhost/media
Drive_path_if_builtin   :
Id                      : 26948
Path used by PSE        : J:
Type                    : builtin_drive
Status                  : online
Total files             : 3503
Total files missing     : 0
Total files wrong volume: 0
Description             : MEDIA2
Serial                  : BAC0-B5A3
Drive_path_if_builtin   : J:
Id                      : 108
Path used by PSE        : C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\Catalogs\Moms pics
Type                    : database_relative_drive
Status                  : online
Total files             : 0
Total files missing     : 0
Total files wrong volume: 0
Description             : database relative
Serial                  : amoc:database_relative_volume
Drive_path_if_builtin   :
Id                      : 2
Windows Drives
Drive Type             Serial     Path
A:     removable_drive 0000-0000
C:     builtin_drive    9088-07F9
D:     builtin_drive    F408-1CB0
E:     builtin_drive    025A-4B70
F:     builtin_drive    1C2F-9805
G:     builtin_drive    242D-15ED
H:     readonly_drive   0000-0000
I:     builtin_drive    427D-3F6B
J:     builtin_drive    BAC0-B5A3
K:     builtin_drive    64E8-9846
L:     builtin_drive    60AE-A816
M:     builtin_drive    7830-2970
Thanks so much for your help!
Jim

Can anyone help with a persistent crash in PSE Organizer?

Brand new Dell Inspiron , Windows 7 Pro w/ Office 2013. All latest updates applied. Installed PSE 13 successfully, created first catalog successfully. Imported media and... crash. I have tried all the troubleshooting possibilities at Elements Organizer crashes at launch including a full reinstall but nothing has resolved the issue. Well, except creating a blank new catalog with no media! But that's not much use to me. I'm guessing there is a file being imported somewhere in my folders which is contributing to the crash but I'm unimpressed that PSE 13 is not robust enough to cope with this.
Any ideas?

Did you reset the preferences file as well? If not try this:
Close PSe and then do this:
Navigate to the Elements Organizer settings folder:
>> Windows XP: C:\Documents and Settings\[User Name]\Application Data\Adobe\Elements Organizer\[Version]\Organizer\
>> Win Vista/7/8: C:\Users\[User Name]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Elements Organizer\[Version]\Organizer\
>> Macintosh OS: //Users/[User Name]/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Elements Organizer/[Version]/Organizer/
Rename psa.prf to psa.old.
Retry launching Elements Organizer
Hope this helps.

I'm trying to organize my movies with folders. When I click "new folder", it either doesn't add any folder or adds a new folder as a "subfolder" of an existing folder. Help!

I'm trying to organize my movies with folders. When I click "new folder", it either doesn't add any folder or adds a new folder as a "subfolder" of an existing folder. Help!

Thank you for the suggestion - I tried it but still didn't work. When I click "New Folder" it gives me the pop-up to name the new folder, but doesn't put a new folder anywhere in my Project Library.

PSE 11 - Where is folder view?

I just upgraded from PSE 9 to 11. Where is the folder view that allows me to browse my hard drive, right click a folder and import all of the images in that folder that are not already in the catalog? Thanks.

For a quick tour of the Photoshop Elements 11 interface, watch this video on Adobe TV http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-photoshop-elements-11/the-new-photoshop-elements-11-user-i nterface-/
You will find the folder options talked about at 1:06.

Help with folder view

Hi, not sure how to describe this but when i open certain folder, the Name/Date Modified/Size/Kind on the folder view could not be adjust - meaning I could not pull the top tab to view the whole filenames. The same happen when I want to attached a file in Mac Mail - attached.
Thanks.

For the Finder window that opens when you click the Attachments button, use the menubutton I've circled in thei pic to set it to 'none'.

Why can't I download photos from my harddrive in PSE Organizer 8?

I've tried 3 different times to download my photos in PSE Organizer 8 from my harddrive. Each time I tried a smaller group. I just upgraded from Elements 4 and I was impressed with some of the features with the organizer and decided to try and use it. I have all my photos organized in folders and sub folders. According to the help information, I should be able to just tell it to download all my photos, including sub folders and once downloaded, I can click on folders view (can't quite remember exactly what it's called) and I will find all my photos organized the same way. I have Windows XP. I do have a large amount of photos. The first try included all of them for a total of 11,644, but part of these are .pub and .doc files which cannot be download. The last try was 8,843 photos which, again included files that cannot be downloaded. I was really hoping to download my pictures in an already organized way. Is this possible? Is it that it just can't handle downloading that many at a time, or could it be some other problem?

What do you see that tells you the photos didn't import into the Organizer? Do you get an error message? Does the Organizer appear to be empty when you finish importing?
More importantly, this is not the correct process when moving from PSE4 to PSE8. You need to convert your PSE4 catalog. To do this, open PSE8 and select File->Catalog->Convert.
My advice is to forget importing existing photos into the Organizer, and convert the catalog as described above.

Can anyone demystify the PSE Organizer catalog backup options?

I need to backup my catalog--preferably just my catalog, not all my pictures (the picture files themselves are already backed up). More accurately, I would like my automated online backup service (Carbonite) to back up my PSE Organizer catalog for me, just as it has already backed up my pictures. But the catalog is in some caddywompus location that Carbonite doesn't back up by default. I think I can manually override Carbonite's default settings and tell it to back that location up anyway, if I only knew where and what files to look for.
If I click on Help > System Info..., PSE tells me my catalog is located in C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Elements Organizer\Catalogs\clayscatalog. It doesn't go all the way to the file level, just down to that last folder, which shares the name of my catalog. But I have no idea which file inside of that folder is my catalog, or what to backup. Inside that folder called clayscatalog, there are the following items:
BreezeData(folder)
CAXMPFiles(folder)
syncdb(folder)
backupCt.dat
catalog.pse9db
collstatus.dat
face.thumb.9.cache
itemData.mk4
rmf.3.cache
tagstatus.dat
thumb.5.cache
watch.2.cache
Which of these files/folders should I be targeting for backup, all of them? And which would I browse to find in order to restore my catalog if my computer ever crashed and I needed to do a restore? Assuming all my photos are backed up and able to be restored to the same folder hierarchy, I assume one of these files/folders is going to have that information and be able to restore everything easily, preserving all my photo ratings, captions, tags, etc., right?
It would seem to make sense for the PSE to offer the option when you choose Backup from the file menu to back up all your catalog data only, as opposed to only having the option to backup everything, including all the picture files. Because I'm sure many people, like me, already have their picture files backed up and don't have need for that. Any guidance on this would be much appreciated.
Clay

First, short answer : the catalog consists in the whole folder you found. All those files are used in the organizer, but the .cache files which may have a big size will be regenerated by the organizer if they are deleted. The problem is this operation may be very long, so you will be better if you save everything;
If you use the backup and restore feature in the Organizer, you'll only have only to tell the restore process where your backup (of everything, files and folders) is located.
http://www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/photoshop-elements-faq.htm#_Backing_up_your

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