Purchase groups question org-structure

Hi All,
One of our buyer left the company and now we want to remove him from the drop-down list of the purchase groups which one gets in SC basic data tab.
For this, I was trying to remove the flag for this buyer as pur.grp in PPOMA_BBP, but before I carry out this step, I wanted to ask you experts, if this has any after affects. (by the way the org and prod- responsibilities from this buyer are already assigned to another buyer).
Thanks.

Hi Rahul,
Pls elaborate on the business scenario u have mappened in SRM.
If you are using the same buyer for processing of documents other than SC (like PO, contract, Bid Inv. where we mainatin Pur grp) in SRM, you will have to keep the buyer in SRM organizational structure. Otherwise for processing of these open documents you will face some error.
If its only SC creation scenario in your case, you can remove the Pur Grp flag for that user.
Regards,
Prashant
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Corporate-group-wide purchasing:
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Company-specific purchasing:
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