Question On 16x9 Aspect Ratio

I set Easy Setup to DV-NTSC Anamorphic and captured my 10 hours of underwater video from Mini-DV that was shot in 16x9 (not HD).
I then created my video, including stills, title text etc.
When I watch my project, my titles and still pictures take up my entire 16x9 widescreen monitor as well as my widescreen TV. The video, however, does not take up the full widescreen. There are black horizontal bars at the top and bottom of the screen.
What am I doing wrong? How can I make it so that the video also takes up the entire widescreen display, like the stills and the titles do?
Thanks for any suggestions... Brad

Thanks for the reply.
The camcorder is a Sony DCR-HC30. I checked the manual and it says "You can record a 16:9 wide picture on the tape to watch on a 16:9 wide-screen TV. With this function ON, your camcorder offers even wider angles when you move the power zoom lever to the W side than recording in OFF". So I believe it is recording in real 16:9 anamorphic.
I checked the item properties of a video clip (not in the my final sequence) and it says:
Frame Size is 720x480
Pixel Aspect is NTSC-CC12 601
Anamorphic is checked
Composite is Normal
I checked the sequence properties and it says:
Frame Size is 720x480
Pixel Aspect is NTSC-CC12 601
Anamorphic is NOT checked
Composite is Blank
When I watch the sequence on the Canvas this is what happens:
Video appears 16:9 with black bars above and below
Photos appear 4:3 and full screen
When I watch a video clip (outside of the sequence), video appears 16:9 with gray bars above and below.
When I export to iDVD for burning to DVD, I did the following:
File / Export / Quicktime Movie
Markers set to None / I tried both self contained movie checked and unchecked
I told iDVD to make a 16:9 project.
When I play the DVD on my widescreen Toshiba LCD TV the following happens:
Video appears 16:9, looks great but has black bars above and below.
Photos look great and take up the entire 16:9 screen.
Any thoughts? I really appreciate your help!

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