RAID & SSD Strategy for Aperture...

Okay, since my OWC Rack unit appears to be defective (affecting performance and some issues cosmetically) the unit will likely be returned. I'm now reconsidering my options. I think I will want to go with a RAID that has the enterprise drives and that requires the PCI controller card since this seem to be more flexible and that they seem to offer better performance then the Oxford 936 chip offers. Also, I'd forgotten how slow that FW 800 really is--what was I thinking?
Another option for me is to build a a 4 drive raid 5 (?) within my current 2006 vintage Mac Pro. What would be the downside of that? I would think: hard on power supply, no hot swap, and I would have to figure out a way to attach another drive robust as a boot volume.
FYI: I plan to use my RAID for: everything except the startup drive. Mail, pics, using Aperture, video (using Final Cut Studio), iTunes library and much more. I see that the Aperture library works best on an SSD, does it make sense to put the OS on a separate volume from the AP library?
BTW: I originally thought that the QUAD interface on the boxes like the OWC unit would be nice because I could use it with my MacBook Pro in a pinch....
Do you have some suggestions? I'm currently looking at something like:
http://www.g-technology.com/products/g-speed-es.cfm
I do like rack mountable equipment but this is not required, I currently have:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other World Computing/RP936QS8.0T/
Major brands that come to mind are: G-Tech, Sonnet Tech, and CalDigit.
Thanks,
Robert

I have for many years used and advocated RAID0 (that is striped) with good backup, largely due to the limitations of the number of drives that fit in a Mac Pro case, and cost per GB. Real-time redundancy does not IMO make sense for our kind of images work. RAID5, 6, 10 solutions all require more drives than easily fit in a Mac Pro, making them expensive relatively complex external solutions not suitable for most of us.
Today with a new MP I would put OS and apps and Referenced-Masters Library on an SSD (perhaps in the extra optical drive slot), two fast internal drives in RAID0 for images and two least cost internal drives for backup. Least cost externals for off site backup.
Mirrored drives are about as fast for our usages as RAID0 but they cost twice as much per GB and take up twice the number of slots. And like I said IMO real-time redundancy is inappropriate for images work (e.g. real-time redundancy duplicates mistakes/errors instantly, whereas backup we do when things are known to be good). We need *routine backup* rather than +real time redundancy.+
And I use and LOVE the OWC Quad Interface drives on my MBP workflow in the field.
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