RAW support new camera's - Fujifilm X-Pro1

As an experienced photographer, I've chosen Aperture over Lightroom. Reason was that I hoped for a better support of new camera's & features in the Mac-world (I don't like Adobe so much). To me, it looks to be an opportunity for Apple to beat Adobe in the support of the ever-changing market of camera's and that such a core-competence could easily appeal to a lot of new potential Aperture-users. Unfortunately, it feels to me like Apple is even conducting an even slower update policy than Adobe. Where is the in depth support for the RAW-formats of all those new camera's launched in the first half of 2012, including my own X-Pro1, a shining beauty that I still cannot bring to full exploit due to the problems I experience now with Aperture?

There are many takes on this:
1. We ourselves are far too much driven to chase the cutting edge and also to a certain degree: to accept the shortcomings and quirks because we want to show up with the new model. Experience what noone has ever experienced before. Camera manufacturers know this very well. But in a certain way with photography, with bad software support, it's like you get a car with no wheels. You can put very tiny 'jpg-wheels' on it, but...? 
2. About the cutting edge: if you buy a camera now it is only fully there in reliable manner after firmware updates. Even the coffee-machine works like this now. But to my feeling, there's something else: zillions of features, all things we don't need, too much 'nice to have' even in professional stuff. Who ever asks for all these silly developments? I'm pretty sure this is one of the reason that indeed the subsequent Adobe/Apple support is so slow. When I read in forums the comments on my own camera, I can tell you that some people are really not seeing the point this is a camera, not a Playstation. I even don't want an Auto-iso setting, what's the use of such automation? Let the camera decide how much quality to lose out of any other option?
3. Standardisation in this area could be a lot better. Why no RAW ISO-standard? Allow only gradual, well considered changes would probably speed up support. In theory is it, but of course be oposite to the 'cutting edge' - certainly in sensor design. Nevertheless, now every manufacturer can do what he want when it comes to RAW. By the way, under which definition falls RAW? Why is there than compression?
4, DNG could have been a solution, but it isn't. Since it appears to be merely a container. It also never really made it 'in the big market' except for Leica.
As a consumer, we can only pray for the next firmware update, the next Aperture & Lightroom update, and hope those big ones read every line we put in a forum like this...

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  • HT201071 Why no Raw support for Fujifilm XF 1 in Aperture?

    When will Apple support my camera the Fujifilm XF1, I prefer using Aperture but will be forced in to Lightroom.

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