Re-threading text causes InDesign crash

What makes InDesign CS3 crash when I'm rethreading text? Does anyone know? I've asked this question before but have not gotten a response.
My fonts are in good shape. I'm still using Tiger, I have tons of RAM. So those things are not at issue.
Here's my workflow: I have a long text that's flowing in boxes, but I want to rethread it into a different set of box threads. The new set is already set up, empty text boxes in a template, threaded. So all I want to do is click on the out-port of the old boxes and click inside the empty new boxes and have the text pop in there. Pretty simple, no? BUT 90% of the time the minute I click on the new empty box, InDesign crashes. I'm trying to figure out what's making it do that because there's about 10% of the time when it doesn't crash.
Does it matter if the box into which the text is being threaded has any guides going across?
Does it matter what font and/or font size is specified in the new box? For example if the font size is way over what could fit into the box size, would that make InDesign crash?
Is something entirely different causing this behavior?
Any insight into this would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Scarlett

If you dont like linking text boxes - I don't like to link a lot as its time consuming! I use InDemand from www.mymacmac.com to flow in text. it has some sort of intuitive placement scheme that allows you to declare which text frames are live and then place, collect or clear their contents in human readable order.
Saved me - I hated having 48 linked product text boxes - this means i can move the text and images about the page to where I want and the box is treaded as if it was in a new link order.

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    1   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb8176e5d CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 85989
    2   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80c6b13 0xb8000000 + 813843
    3   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80c0037 0xb8000000 + 786487
    4   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80dd8e8 0xb8000000 + 907496
    5   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb8145397 spin_lock_wrapper + 1791
    6   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb801ceb7 0xb8000000 + 118455
    Thread 11:
    0   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb815a8ff spin_lock_wrapper + 89191
    1   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb8176e5d CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 85989
    2   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80c6b13 0xb8000000 + 813843
    3   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80c0037 0xb8000000 + 786487
    4   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80dd8e8 0xb8000000 + 907496
    5   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb8145c1d spin_lock_wrapper + 3973
    6   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb801ceb7 0xb8000000 + 118455
    Thread 12:
    0   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb815a8ff spin_lock_wrapper + 89191
    1   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb8176e5d CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 85989
    2   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80c6b13 0xb8000000 + 813843
    3   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80c0037 0xb8000000 + 786487
    4   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80dd8e8 0xb8000000 + 907496
    5   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb8145397 spin_lock_wrapper + 1791
    6   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb801ceb7 0xb8000000 + 118455
    Thread 13:
    0   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb815a8ff spin_lock_wrapper + 89191
    1   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb8176e5d CallPPCFunctionAtAddressInt + 85989
    2   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80c6b13 0xb8000000 + 813843
    3   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80c0037 0xb8000000 + 786487
    4   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb80dd8e8 0xb8000000 + 907496
    5   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb8145397 spin_lock_wrapper + 1791
    6   com.adobe.InDesign            0xb801ceb7 0xb8000000 + 118455
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      eax: 0x00000000  ebx: 0x802fc540  ecx: 0xb7fff9ac  edx: 0x80239522
      edi: 0xb8211640  esi: 0x00000005  ebp: 0xb7fff9d8  esp: 0xb7fff9ac
       ss: 0x00000023  efl: 0x00000286  eip: 0x80239522   cs: 0x0000000b
       ds: 0x00000023   es: 0x00000023   fs: 0x00000000   gs: 0x0000000f
      cr2: 0x80239518
    Binary Images:
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    0x8007d000 - 0x800e7fe7  libstdc++.6.dylib 7.9.0 (compatibility 7.0.0) <411D87F4-B7E1-44EB-F201-F8B4F9227213> /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
    0x80142000 - 0x802e9ff7  libSystem.B.dylib 125.2.1 (compatibility 1.0.0) <62291026-D016-705D-DC1E-FC2B09D47DE5> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
    0x8036a000 - 0x804e5fe7  com.apple.CoreFoundation 6.6.4 (550.42) <C78D5079-663E-9734-7AFA-6CE79A0539F1> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
    0x805dd000 - 0x805ebfe7  libz.1.dylib 1.2.3 (compatibility 1.0.0) <3CE8AA79-F077-F1B0-A039-9103A4A02E92> /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib
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    0x80600000 - 0x80646ff7  libauto.dylib ??? (???) <29422A70-87CF-10E2-CE59-FEE1234CFAAE> /usr/lib/libauto.dylib
    0x80653000 - 0x807d5fe7  libicucore.A.dylib 40.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <35DB7644-0780-D2AB-F6A9-45F28D2D434A> /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
    0x80837000 - 0x808e4fe7  libobjc.A.dylib 227.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <DF8E4CFA-3719-3415-0BF1-E8C5E561C3B1> /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
    0x808f8000 - 0x808fbfe7  libmathCommon.A.dylib 315.0.0 (compatibility 1.0.0) <1622A54F-1A98-2CBE-B6A4-2122981A500E> /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib
    0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe4162b  dyld 132.1 (???) <321A99FE-F169-91AE-66FF-B4CD007B3E9A> /usr/lib/dyld
    0xb8000000 - 0xb81defff +com.adobe.InDesign 4.0.5.688 (4050) <6437A74D-607F-7339-5F7E-F6B0EF81C25D> /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS2/Adobe InDesign CS2.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS2
    0xffff0000 - 0xffff1fff  libSystem.B.dylib ??? (???) <62291026-D016-705D-DC1E-FC2B09D47DE5> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
    Translated Code Information:
    objc[621]: garbage collection is ON
    NO CRASH REPORT
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    Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5770, ATI Radeon HD 5770, PCIe, 1024 MB
    Memory Module: global_name
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8E), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.36.1)
    Bluetooth: Version 2.3.8f7, 2 service, 19 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Ethernet 1, Ethernet, en0
    PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 5770, Display, Slot-1
    Serial ATA Device: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GH61N
    Serial ATA Device: WDC WD1001FALS-41Y6A0, 931.51 GB
    USB Device: hp LaserJet 2420, 0x03f0  (Hewlett Packard), 0x2917, 0xfa200000
    USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x1003, 0x1d100000
    USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x0304, 0x1d110000
    USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x020b, 0x1d130000
    USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x5a100000
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8215, 0x5a110000
    FireWire Device: built-in_hub, Up to 800 Mb/sec

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    Path:            /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS6/Adobe InDesign CS6.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS6
    Identifier:      com.adobe.InDesign
    Version:         8.0.1.406 (8010)
    Code Type:       X86 (Native)
    Parent Process:  launchd [221]
    User ID:         501
    Date/Time:       2013-07-10 11:39:58.199 -0400
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    Report Version:  10
    Crashed Thread:  31
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        __TEXT                 0000000000001000-0000000000005000 [   16K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS6/Adobe InDesign CS6.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS6
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    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x976467d2 mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x97645cb0 mach_msg + 68
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x942ddf79 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 185
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x942e395f __CFRunLoopRun + 1247
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x942e301a CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 378
    5   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x942e2e8b CFRunLoopRunInMode + 123
    6   com.apple.HIToolbox                     0x976b6f5a RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 242
    7   com.apple.HIToolbox                     0x976b6cc9 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
    8   com.apple.HIToolbox                     0x9781c15c ReceiveNextEvent + 79
    9   com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x15825af8 0x15817000 + 60152
    10  com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x15844329 GetPlugIn + 12009
    11  com.adobe.InDesign                      0x00001ec5 main + 341
    12  com.adobe.InDesign                      0x00001d55 start + 53
    Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x976499ae kevent + 10
    1   libdispatch.dylib                       0x9a4dec71 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 993
    2   libdispatch.dylib                       0x9a4de7a9 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53
    Thread 2:
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x976488e2 __psynch_cvwait + 10
    1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x97a762e9 _pthread_cond_wait + 938
    2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x97a76572 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
    3   com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore          0x997596ad TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 177
    4   com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore          0x996a5acb MPWaitOnQueue + 261
    5   PMRuntime.dylib                         0x005b9581 SetVSizeBaseline(unsigned long) + 1473
    6   com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore          0x9972ca7b PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
    7   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x97a715b7 _pthread_start + 344
    8   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x97a5bd4e thread_start + 34

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    Thread 31 Crashed:
    0   PublicLib.dylib                         0x0180f746 WideString::Append(WideString const&) + 12
    1   com.adobe.InDesign.Text                 0x1b4efb2e GetPlugIn + 3615726
    2   com.adobe.InDesign.Text                 0x1b4f1def GetPlugIn + 3624623
    3   com.adobe.InDesign.Text                 0x1b434398 GetPlugIn + 2847832
    4   com.adobe.InDesign.Text                 0x1b434e4f GetPlugIn + 2850575
    5   PublicLib.dylib                         0x017ec171 CScriptProvider::AccessPropertyOnObjects(IDType<ScriptID_tag>, IScriptRequestData*, adobe::version_1::vector<InterfacePtr<IScript>, adobe::version_1::capture_allocator<InterfacePtr<IScript> > > const&) + 337
    6   com.adobe.InDesign.Scripting            0x1a33a69f GetPlugIn + 154479
    7   com.adobe.InDesign.Scripting            0x1a33b35a GetPlugIn + 157738
    8   com.adobe.InDesign.Scripting            0x1a338361 GetPlugIn + 145457
    9   com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1822c38f GetPlugIn + 8687
    10  PublicLib.dylib                         0x0193da93 CScriptDOMElement::FetchValue(IDType<ScriptID_tag>, DOMAttributeValue&) + 107
    11  PublicLib.dylib                         0x0193f22e CScriptDOMElement::GetAttribute(IDType<ScriptID_tag>, DOMAttributeValue&) + 442
    12  PublicLib.dylib                         0x017b5f28 CTextScriptDOMElement::CTextScriptDOMElement(IPMUnknown*) + 25134
    13  PublicLib.dylib                         0x017ad257 CTextScriptDOMElement::CollectTextChildren() + 135
    14  PublicLib.dylib                         0x017af165 CTextScriptDOMElement::CollectExpandedChildElements(K2Vector<InterfacePtr<IDOMElement>, K2Allocator<InterfacePtr<IDOMElement> > >&) + 127
    15  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1825cdd8 GetPlugIn + 207928
    16  PublicLib.dylib                         0x01941089 CScriptDOMElement::GetChildElements(K2Vector<InterfacePtr<IDOMElement>, K2Allocator<InterfacePtr<IDOMElement> > >&) + 59
    17  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826d161 GetPlugIn + 274369
    18  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826a4a6 GetPlugIn + 262918
    19  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826d1de GetPlugIn + 274494
    20  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826a39f GetPlugIn + 262655
    21  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826d1de GetPlugIn + 274494
    22  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826a39f GetPlugIn + 262655
    23  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826d1de GetPlugIn + 274494
    24  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826a4a6 GetPlugIn + 262918
    25  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826d1de GetPlugIn + 274494
    26  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826a4c9 GetPlugIn + 262953
    27  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826d1de GetPlugIn + 274494
    28  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826e105 GetPlugIn + 278373
    29  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x18268530 GetPlugIn + 254864
    30  com.adobe.InDesign.INXCore              0x1826727f GetPlugIn + 250079
    31  com.adobe.InDesign.SaveBack             0x11cd49b3 GetPlugIn + 27539
    32  com.adobe.InDesign.SaveBack             0x11cd4141 GetPlugIn + 25377
    33  com.adobe.InDesign.SaveBack             0x11cd6227 GetPlugIn + 33799
    34  com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x15911749 GetPlugIn + 852745
    35  com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x15912ca6 GetPlugIn + 858214
    36  com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x15913804 GetPlugIn + 861124
    37  com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x159143c5 GetPlugIn + 864133
    38  com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x1591598e GetPlugIn + 869710
    39  com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x159159fa GetPlugIn + 869818
    40  com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework          0x15915a66 GetPlugIn + 869926
    41  com.adobe.boost_threads.framework          0x01c6840d thread_proxy + 141
    42  libsystem_c.dylib                       0x97a715b7 _pthread_start + 344
    43  libsystem_c.dylib                       0x97a5bd4e thread_start + 34
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