Re-write numerical page numbers to roman numerals for an introduction?

Hi there everybody,
I've been attempting (for some considerable time!) to typeset and format a book. The book needs to have roman numerals running from the first title page (which is in reality left blank through using a secondary master page without page numbers). However, I didn't realise I would need to use roman numerals in the introduction, and instead started the page numbers from the first title page of the introduction. Therefore, my pages that are numbered by roman numerals (copyright page etc) stop at this point and in the introduction become numbers.
I need to change it so it is roman numerals up until the first page of the actual book, all through the introduction, but when I try to change it in the Numbers and Sections tab, it tells me that i've already used the numbers i've typed in.
Basically I would like to know how to take off the first set of roman numeral page numbers and start again??
I'm very confused!! Help would be MUCH appreciated.
Lucy

Is this any help?
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Hello,
i think the best way ist to create a 2 variables and add at every master page 1 to var1 or var2 .
At every following site of the first master pages add "1" to var1 .
At every following site of the second master pages add "1" to var2 .
With this coding you can fill your var1 and var2 i think
Put this on every site then i think you can fill var1 and var2 different.
If not you must make a simple coding var1 = var1 + 1 at site1 and var2 = var2 + 1 at site2
// data.#pageSet[0].Seite1.AktuelleSeite::ready:layout - (JavaScript, client)
this.rawValue = xfa.layout.page(this);
Regards
Edited by: Florian Martin on Jun 28, 2011 10:51 AM

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The page numbering goes with the section which derives from the template you used to create the page.
For example you would have a Preface section with certain +master objects+ that numbers with roman numerals.
Then you would have the body of the book following which restarts the count from 1 and uses Arabic numbers. This again would have its own +master objects+.
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