Read/Unread status resetted?

I've just noticed (after a low-acces period of a few weeks) that all the messages are set to unread. (I know this specifically for certain floated threads).
Is this by design?
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What's even stranger is that according to my settings all messages over 10 days old should be set to 'read'...
I've been looking, but it seems I can only toggle the 'read' status per board. That I hit that accidentally on one board I can understand, however all the boards?
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* 9 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen))
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