Reference Movies and Streaming Server

I have compressed my movie in multiple streaming sizes, 56k-T1. I have tried several times to use MakeRefMovie app to make a MSTR movie that will deliver up the propery version of the movie on the Streaming server they will reside. I get an error everytime.
It works locally, but not when embedded in an HTML page.
I've tried pulling the movies into MakeRefMovie and then changing their location to a URL, no dice.
I've tried opening the movie in Quicktime Pro using the Open URL, then doing a save as and calling that movie into MakeRefMovie. No dice.
Do I not need a reference movie with streaming video? Or should the server call it up automatically? If so, what is the HTML I should put in my page to make this happen?
-Kirk

If your files are served using streaming server software the audio and video tracks need "hint" tracks.
You can create them without re-exporting using the Automator app.
QuickTime Pro already includes "Export to Web" which can make three different versions of your file and automatically serve up the correct version based on your page visitor settings.
It even writes the proper html code which you can copy/paste into your existing pages. These files are served via HTTP and no streaming server software or hint tracks are required.

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I totally understand where you're coming from; Apple's support of some of QuickTime's more advanced features has unfortunately been waning for some time now.
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http://www.apple.com/quicktime/tutorials/refmovies.html
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When I get back to work on Monday, (if you need me to) I can post you both the java scripting we use in our web pages and the .smil coding in our .smil files.

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