Reference Rebate condition

Hi Sap gurus!
I have a rebate condition, ZBO3, and a reference condition of that, ZZO3 in the same sales pricing procedure. I have two agreements for the same condition rebate, ZBO3. When I create a billing document, it finds and displays the two agreements for the rebate condition but only finds and displays the first agreement with the reference condition ZZO3.
I need display the two agreements with the reference condition, ZZO3. Can you help me?
Thanku2019s for your time

Hi
If the customer has returned the materials then create the Returns order (with ref to billing doc) and then do billing then automatically the accruals value get reduced and as the customer has returned the stocks for that also this flow will be working . So if you do the following flow then the accurals value will get adjusted and the materials will also be taken back
VA01 (order type-RE) ->VL01N(Post goods receipt) -> VF01(Billing ). You might have done this flow only
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