Refresh the object associated with a Row in a Data Control?

I am using EclipseLink & have an issue with multiple updates of the same Row. During an update, a new instance of the entity is returned by the update method. The instance bound to the Row is not updated with this new version and subsequent updates fail with an optimistic locking exception since the entityVersion hasn't been updated.
Question: Is it possible to refresh the instance associated with a data control Row? I can remove rows, create rows, but it is not apparent to me how to update a row. I am trying to avoid doing a full retrieve on the bound iterator.

Hi!
The issue here is, by my opinion, a gap between ADFm and EJB 3.0 in use-cases with large data sets. If you search this forum, you may find related thread by Pedja about problem of feasible "scrollable" af:table with large number of entities in EJB finder result list. Unfortunately, the ADFm "paged" fetching is in mismatch with EJB support for "paged" (or scrollable) results lists. The all results of EJB finder method are retrieved from data source, stored in memory (thus breaking the heap) and transferred to ADF datacontrol. Then, and only then, ADFm paged fetching and caching mechanisms are employed – but they are just cosmetics as the main data set is permanently stored in memory as List<?>. The workaround is, as Pedja discovered, to write completely proprietary TableCollectionModel which completely evades ADFm and is implemented by set of EJB Session methods for paged acces to datasource through TopLink and native database queries (enabling retrieval of particular range of rows instead a complete result set). Of course, this is very complex coding experience and I find it a not acceptable for efficient development of modern applications on ADF + EJB stack, especially as it brakes a technology independence promoted by EJB and EclipseLink and other standards-based technologies (as you have to use database-specific native query implementation for paged /scrollable access!).
What I want to say is that I have feeling that ADF support for EJB is not complete in full extend and that ADFm is still much better suited for BCs then for EJBs. I hope that this will be solved in future as this issue may pose a significant issue on application development in enterprise-level area where it is supposed that we are dealing with BROWSING also a large data sets.
Yes, I emphasize a BROWSING as I strongly oppose a dogmatic approach that SEARCHING is a solution for every use-case. From theory of information, the system SHOULD NOT limit the user in accessing ALL information (based on access rights, of course). So the idea that SEARCH forms should be used to bridge a architectural gap between a ADFm and EJB is not acceptable, as the search MAY limit the user in acquiring the information he (or she) is not able to describe in adequate manner based on search criteria offered by the developer. So, the developer may be responsible for misinformation of user, by limiting his access to information, jus for technology limitations of ADFm which forces a development of purely SEARCH-based functionalities.
I hope that development team would appreciate and consider this remarks, and invest effort in closing (not bridging!) the gap between ADFm and EJB.
Regards,
PaKo

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I think your problem come from this method :
if (tr.isDataFlavorSupported(TransferableDataItem.DEFAULT_MUTABLE_DATAITEM_FLAVOR))
   System.out.println("Got transfered data");
   Object userObject = tr.getTransferData(TransferableDataItem.DEFAULT_MUTABLE_DATAITEM_FLAVOR);
//DefaultMutableTreeNode node = (DefaultMutableTreeNode)path.getLastPathComponent();
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...You should write :
if (tr.isDataFlavorSupported(TransferableDataItem.DEFAULT_MUTABLE_DATAITEM_FLAVOR))
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...and create a construcor for IconNode :
public IconNode(IconNode node) {
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}When you use IconNode newNode = new IconNode(userObject), the icon is null (see your constructor).
If I can say something, you should simplify your code : you can do the same thing dividing the size of your code by five (at less).
Denis

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Thank you.

Welcome to the Apple community Yao.
If you mean that Find My Phone is asking for a password to a different Apple ID to your current Apple ID.
This feature has been introduced to make stolen phones useless to those that have stolen them.
However it can also arise when the user has changed their Apple ID details with Apple and not made the same changes to their iCloud account/Find My Phone on their device before upgrading to iOS 7, or if you restore from a previous back up made before you changed your details.
The only solution is to change your Apple ID back to its previous state with Apple at My Apple ID using your current password, you don’t need access to this address if it’s previously been used with your Apple ID, once you have saved these details enter the password as requested on your device and then turn off "find my phone" and delete the account from your device.
You should then change your Apple ID back to its current state, save it once again and then log back in using your current Apple ID. Finally, turn "find my phone" back on once again.
This article provides more information about Activation Lock.

HT204053 I have two Apple IDs current. On my iPhone one appears in settings iCloud and this is the id associated with my iMac.

I have two Apple IDs current. One my iPhone one appears in Settings/iCloud and this is the ID associated with my iMac. The second appears on my iPhone when I connect to the App Store to purchase or update. I have forgottenthe password for this ID and also the secuity questions. Attempts to reset the password by email have been unsuccessful as no email has been received and I have lost the answers to security questions. How can I reinstate this ID? Help please

Call Apple Care for your country and ask for help resetting the password and the security questions.

I have two Apple IDs - one associated with iPad and iPhone and the other associated with iMac and MacAir. I am going to lose the former e-mail address imminently and would like to associate all devices with just one ID. How do I do this? Thanks

I have two Apple IDs - one associated with iPad and iPhone and the other associated with iMac and MacAir. I am going to lose the former e-mail address imminently and would like to associate all devices with just one ID. How do I do this? Thanks

Thanks - I guess it is like there were two of me!
I bought the iPhone first and it seemed natural to link it to the (work) e-mail address which was in constant use. The iMac for home use came next and it seemed natural to use my home e-mail address, particularly as I knew by then that I would lose the work address after my imminent retirement. The same logic went for the recent puchase of the MacAir. I am not sure what happened with the iPad (also a recent purchase) - iTunes seemed to puch me towards the same ID as the iPhone.
It is not a huge problem - just makes my persona look schizoid! Otherwise very happy with everything Apple.

Is there a way to change the icon associated with icloud account?

Is there a way to change the icon associated with my iCloud account? It's currently a rose and i do not like it.

Welcome to the Apple Support Communities
Are you referring to your iCloud account picture or your user picture?
It looks like you are referring to your user picture. To change it, open System Preferences > Users & Groups, press the picture box and choose the user picture you want from the ones that came by default. If you want to select a different picture stored on your Mac, drag that photo onto the picture box.
If you want to change your iCloud account picture, open http://www.icloud.com and log in with your Apple ID. Then, press your name at the top right of the site and press the user picture. If you put the cursor on the picture box, you will see a button at the top of the box to change your picture

I'm trying to change my ICloud e-mail to match the one associated with the Apple ID? Can someone tell me how to do this? Seems like the phone won't accept the new one, the message states "you already have acct associated....." (a given!!) I need help !!

I'm trying to change my ICloud e-mail to match the one associated with the Apple ID? Can someone tell me how to do this? Seems like the phone won't accept the new one, the message states "you already have acct associated....." (a given!!) I need help !!

You made a purchase and exhausted the credit on your card before it processed. All purchases are final. Contact iTunes Store support. You need to settle up before you can purchase or download anything else.

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