Regarding Material Determination and free goods determination

Hi Gurus,
I understand the Material Determination to be substitution of a new material for the old one for any possible reasons such as sales Campaign,non availability etc.
Could anyone one explain the concept whether material determination and Free good determination can co-exist in a sales order ?
How to substitute by material determination procedure for a free good in a sales order?
Regards,
S.Ravi kumar

Hi.,
We can use material determination and free goods,as per my knowledge material determination takes first and to the swapped material free goods determiination takes place
Award points if helpful
Narayana

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Free Goods Determination Based on Access Seq -Sales Org/DistCh/Cust/Materia

Dear All ,
Based on the requirement , I have configured 2 access seq for free goods determination.
1. Customer/Material
2. Sales org/DistCh/Customer / Material .
The free goods determination is working fine when i use the first access Seq - . Customer/Material and when i use the 2nd access seq - Sales org/DistCh/Customer / Material free goods determination is not happening for both inclusive and exclusive .
Can any one help me on this issue , as i am not able to identify the issue .
Thanks in advance for all the help.
Regards
Veera

Hi
Ceck this thread
Forum post in ERP SD Sales: New Access Sequence for Free Goods Determination
New Access Sequence for Free Goods Determination
But for you free goods determination should be happening at
Sales org/DistCh/Customer / Material without any problem
Make sure Sales org/DistCh/ maintained in VBN1 and what is falling in sales order are same
Regards
Raja

Free goods determination from material determination.

Hi experts,
I have one issue for you,
My scenario is:
we issue freee goods 1:1. i configured free goods setting and maintained VBN1 (condition records for free goods). i even maintained material determination configuration settings and maintained VB11 (condition records for material determination). The problem is system proposing free goods automatically when i process sales order without material determination list, if i go through material determination list system not determining free goods nor giving any message. what is the system behaviour if we go through material sustitution list to free goods. the main item (for free goods)will be existed in the substitutiion list. plez help. any suggestion will be highly appreciated.
thanks,
sada

Hi
Please consider the two issues separately. Don't club both the issues. If you have records for both material determination and free goods.,
1. Whether the material substitution is happening perfectly (as per the records created in VB11) or not.
Next.,
2. check whether the free goods are determined for the material in the sales order line item (as per the records created in VBN1) or not.
Please check and post the result.
Sometimes the freegoods will be determined in the sales order but will not create any second line item(as sub item) because while creating the records in VBN1 if you select the option 'Free goods Inclusive without line item generation. In this case NRAB condition type will be determined instead of R100.
So, also check the conditions tab and see whether the entire quantity is priced or not.
Thanks,
Ravi

Scale in pricing and free goods.

Hi All,
Can anyone plz tell me ,What is the role and how to use the scale in pricing and free goods determination.
Regards,
Ashima

hi,
. Create a condition by copying a a standard condition like BO03 in V/06
2. Assign this condition in the std pricing procedure with acct key as ERB and accural key as ERU - V/08
3.Create a Rebate Agreement in VBO1 (It is O = Owl and not zero). No will be generated
choose 003 - Customer rebates, enter the customer code, the validity and check for the status shld be in Open, click on the conditions enter the percentage and accrual amount. You also can have scales in this. Also you need to maintain the material for the settlement
4. Create a sales order for that customer and check the rebate agreement.
5. You can see the rebate condition in the invoice only.
6. Once you have posted the invoices, then go to rebate agrrement no. clicl on verfication and it will show the order details.
7. For settlement change the status of the rebate to B - release for the settlement.
8. Credit memo request will b generated copy the no. and go to VA02, remove the blocks if any and create an invoice (credit memo).this will show u the accrual amount.
9. In both the invoice and the credit memo check the posting - accounting document it will show u the accrual as negative.
10. Again go to rebate aggreement and check the status it will show you D - Final settlement of agreement already carried out
Regards,,
JP

Free Goods determination -acess sequence sales org/ plant/material

Hi
I am trying to determine the free goods by choosing the key combination as Sales org/plant/material.
The system is not determineing the free qty ,instead when i maintain the condition record with customer/Material key combination ,then the system is determineing the free qty.
I also tried to put acess Sequence Sales org/plant/material above the Acess sequence customer/Material,but still the system not detrmineing the free qty in the order.
can any one pl gide me how to solve this issue.
regards
shashi

Hi
Go to the access sequence where Sales org/Plant/Material are maintained as condition table.
Now select the condition table and then click the node "Fields" on the left hand side of the screen.
It may give a warning message that "Fields are not yet generated". Just ignore this and Enter once again.
Do this until it takes you to a screen where you can see fields like KOMK-VKORG, KOMK-WERKS and KOMP-MATNR
Now create the condition records and check in transaction by creating sales order. It shoudl work.
Hope this helps.
You can reward if it helps you

Free Good determination and reference status in sales order

Hi, I have a problem with the status of a position in a sales order.
The position is TANN (free good determination), it works good, the order was fully delivered and invoiced. But the reference status in the TANN position order is showing as "not referenced", so the order is still with status "Being processed".
I forgot some customizing in free good determination?
Thanks in advance!

Hi Fraga,
Have u done the Determine Item Category For Free Goods Item
In this u need to maintain the free goods item categories to the Sales Doc types.
Path: spro/sales & distribution/basic functions/free goods/Determine Item Category For Free Goods Item
Please check if it is helps.
regards,
Pritam

Free Goods Determination

Hello All,
 Can any one please explain the process of Free Goods Determination with both exclusive/inclusive and the config settings .
Thanks in advance
Regards

Hello Manoj
Please find the detailed explanation on Free goods below 
Free goods play a large role in price negotiations with your customers. As a result, free goods are determined to be placed in sales document automatically. In retail, chemical industry or consumer goods industry, it is common to provide discounts in the form of free goods.
a. Inclusive Bonus Quantities Free goods can be part of order quantity not included in the invoice (billing). This is called inclusive bonus quantity. The ordered goods and the free goods both involve the same material. The quantity units of the free goods and the ordered goods must be the same.
b. Exclusive Bonus Quantities Free goods that take the form of extra goods that are free of charge are called exclusive bonus quantities. In this case, the extra bonus quantities are not typically included in the invoice (billing). This can either be an additional quantity of the goods ordered or it can be another article. The exclusive free of goods appear in the SD document as an individual free of charge item.
Both types of free goods are treated in the same way in the sales order. The material that has been ordered is entered as a main item (TAN) and the free item (TANN) is automatically displayed as a sub item. The item category determines how the item is controlled later in the business process.
The system re-reads the free goods master record in the sales order if the quantities in the main item change or if the pricing date changes. The system then deletes the sub items and re-creates them. Any manual changes to the free goods quantity are lost.
Note: If pricing is re-run in the sales order, it does not affect the free goods determination.
The condition technique is used for free goods. Free goods are generally regarded as a supplement to the pricing agreement for a material. You can define master records for free goods at any level such as material, customer/material, price list category/currency/material or customer hierarchy/material. The transaction code is VBN1 and condition type NA00 which automatically gets converted into R100 during sales document processing.
You can restrict a free goods condition master record for one level in many ways
a. Validity period: the condition is only valid within this period
b. Lowest quantity: the condition comes into affect when this quantity has been exceeded.
c. Delivery control:
d. Calculation type:
e. Scales
You can process different master data with the same key for inclusive and exclusive bonus quantities at the same time. You only need to press a button to switch between two types of discount. When you enter an exclusive bonus quantity, an extra entry line appears where you can enter the free material if it is not the same as the ordered material.
When you specify a calculation rule, you decide how the system determines the free goods quantity in the sales order from the additional and document quantities.
a. The free goods quantity is the quantity that is calculated from the discount quantity (not the minimum quantity)
b. Additional quantity is the quantity delivered free of charge
c. Document quantity is the quantity entered by the person creating the sales order.
three calculation rules are provided by the system i.e.
a. Prorated the system calculates the free goods in right proportion to document the quantity. For example if 20 units are offered for free for 100 units in the condition record and the customer orders 162 units, then the system calculates 162 * 20/100 (rounded off) as free goods.
b. Related to units 20 units are given for free for every 100 units ordered. In the above case the customer would only get 20 units free as he placed an order for 162 units.
c. Whole units the customer would not get any free goods if he doesnt match the exact quantity proposed. That is, in the above case, the customer doesnt get any free goods as the ordered quantity did not match 100 units. Anything below or over the mark will not be qualified for a free good.
Calculation rules are stored in the system in the form of ABAP/4 code. You can also define your own rules by using transaction code VOFM (system modifications).
The free goods determination procedure contains a list of condition types for the free goods. One access sequence is assigned to each condition type and each access sequence contains one ore more accesses and each access contains exactly one table. This represents the search key that the system uses to search for valid condition records.
The free goods determination procedure is assigned to sales area + document pricing procedure + customer pricing procedure just as in the case of pricing procedure assignment as free goods are generally regarded as a supplement to the pricing agreement for a material.
If the search is successful, the system generates a sub item for free goods in the document. The item category is assigned with the item category usage FREE.
You can activate an analysis of the free goods determination in the sales document. The system then displays detailed information on how the free goods were determined.
Reward points if helpful
Regards
Sai

Free goods determination with Free of charge delivery

Hello
After maintaining the Free goods Determination Record for a material using VBN1, when I create the order with order type OR, the free goods gets determined, where as when I create the order with order type FD, the free goods does not get determined. Can somebody let me know the reason for this happening and the solution please
Thanks in advance
Anoop

Hi
Free goods can only be supported on a 1:1 ratio. This means that an order item can lead to a free goods item. Agreements in the following form are not supported: u2018With material 1, material 2 and material 3 are free of chargeu2018 or u2018If material 1 and material 2 are ordered at the same time, then material 3 is free of chargeu2018.
Free goods are not supported in combinations with material structures (for example, product selection, BOM, variants with BOM explosion)
Free goods are only supported for sales orders with document category C (for example, not quotations).
Free goods are not supported for deliveries without reference to a sales order.
Free goods cannot be used in make-to-order production, third-party order processing and scheduling agreements.
If you defined a free goods for variants in a generic article (only SAP Retail), you can only process the variants in the purchase order and goods receipt individually (as single articles). In other words, you cannot process them using the generic article matrix.
Moreover your doc type FD has sales doc category as I in VOV8 in standards
Hence it is not working and wont work also
These SAP library statements answers your qn and the constraints of free goods in R3
As long as document category is not C in VOV8 for your order type you cant get free goods in sales order
Regards
Raja

Free Goods Determination - Exclusive

Hi All,
Am trying to enable Free Goods determination (exclusive). I have set up the free goods determination procedure and the condition record. However, when I create my sales Order for the original material, a new line is generated with the material that should be given away for free however the quantity field is not populated. Any idea as to what I may be doing wrong ?
Condition Record is as follows (VBN1)
Material - Material A (This is the material for which the SO is raised)
Min Qty - 2
From - 2
UnitFG - EA
add FG - 1
AddQtyUnit - 1
in % = 33 % (this is an auto field that is calculated)
Calc Rule - 3
Free Goods - 2
AddMatFrGd - Material B (This is the material that should be provided for free)
FGDelyCont - B
Your help is immensely appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Imran

Hi Ramesh,
Thanks for your input. I did try your suggestion out, Calculation Rule 2, but it still does not work. I have attached the procedure to my document type.
When the SO is being created, an additional line item is generated with the free good material but without a quantity. how do i get it such that the quantity is also proposed on the new line item generated for the free good based on what has been defined in the condition record.
Regards,
Imran

New Access Sequence for Free Goods Determination

Hi Guru's,
I Have a scenario wherein i have to maintain the free Goods Condition records in VBN1 with a new access sequence namely Customer/Distribution Channel/Plant/material.
I have maintained all the necessary settings such as Free Goods Activation for Item Category, Assignment of free goods pricing procedure to my sales area,Positioning of R100 condition type in my pricing procedure with relevenat routines.
At my Sale order level after maintaining the free goods condition record in VBN1 in new access sequence, my free goods determination is not happening and at the sme time if i maintain it in the standard access sequence i.e. in Sales Org/Dist.Channel/Customer/material the free goods are getting determined.
Can anybody help me out in this..
Regards
Bhushan

Hi
There arew 2 things to be done or checked
1. Position your access sequence before the standard one by giving step nos accordingly
2.In the existing sequence check for the exclusive indicator in the standard sequence and i think that is ticked in your case
Hence after getting the condition record in the standard sequence the system stops searching for the new records in your new access sequence
If that is the casethen remove exclusive indicator from the standard one and tick the same in your new access sequence
By this you can get the condition records of your new access sequence without positioning
Pls reply whether mu suggestion has helped you
Raja

Re: Free Goods Determination

Hi all
I am currently trying the work on Inclusive free goods determination.
Currently if a customer orders 4 items he gets billed only for 3.
So i have setup a condition as:
Material/Min q/from/unit/are free goods/unit for free good/calc. rule/free goods category/FGDelvCond/
Mat.A/--1/4/-EA/1/EA/2---/1/ -blank/
I have 2 questions:
1) when i keep the free goods category as 1 - (inclusive with item generation), another item getss added with item category tann. this seems quite logical. But when I keep it as 3 - (inclusive rebate without item generation: only for sales). In this case no item is added & also all the 4 items are priced.
Can anyone explain what is the result of using free goods category = 3, & when is it used.
(Note: the pricing procedure is having R100 with req=55,Bastyp=28)
2) I wanted to know if what i think is correct. the item category determination for free goods is happening due to the following assignment present in the system:
Order typ/Itm Cat. Grp/Usage/H.Lvl. Itm Cat./Default. Itm. cat
-OR/NORM/-blank-/--blank--/TAN--
-OR/NORM/-blank-/--TAN--/--TANN--
Finally my actual motive is to use free goods determination for a configurable item. So does the same concept apply for configurable items(0002 - item cat grp & item category - TAC) ?
Thanks
Vinit

Hi
Suppose for e.g take a pen if it is priced Rs 10 and if you apply Free for that take10%
Exclusive means 10 +1 free
means in your sales order ther will be 2 line items one with TAN for 10 units and another one with TANN with one unit
first it will be 10 qty which will be priced each Rs 10 and total will be 100
second will be 1 qty which is free
By paying Rs 100 we will get 11 pieces here
Inclusive means 9 + 1free ( free item is included in the order qty)
means in your sales order ther will be 2 line items first it will be 9 qty which will be priced each Rs 10 and total will be 90 second will be 1 qty which is free
In both these cases there will be two line items will get generated in sales document
first will be chargeable item with item category TAN
The second will be item category TANN
By paying Rs 90 we will get 10 pieces here
Both this inclusive and exclusive are picked by R100 condition type
Now coming to NARB
Means free goods inclusive without item generation
Means in your sales order there will be only 1 items with qty 10 the free goode cost will be distributed among the whole of qty 10
Means the order value will be RS 90 only
There will not be any extra item generated with TANN
Here also by paying Rs 90 we will get 10 pieces
But there will be only one line item in sales order
Ultimately inclusive and inclusive without item generation the nett effect is the same_Hope this answers your point_
For first two cases we use condition type R 100 with requirement 55 and alternate base value 28
Inclusive and exclusive are picked by R100
For the third case we use condition type NRAB with requirement 59 and alternate base value 29
Inclusive without item generation is picked by NRAB
The basic difference between R100 (inclusive or exclusive) and NRAB (inclusive without item generation) is with R100 you will find 2 line items in a sales order TAN and TANN and with NRAB you will find only one line item in sales order that is TAN and there wont be TANN
While creating condition record in VBN1 there is a control on left top which tells inclusive or exclusive
Actually you have to choose exclusive here to do NRAB
In the line item while creating condition records you need to specify whether inclusive/exclusive/inclusive without item generation at a column
Here you need to specify inclusive without item generation
Actually what you specify here that is in the line item inclusive or exclusive or inclusive without item generation takes the control in the sales order
If in the left top if it is exclusive you have to choose inclusive or inclusive without item generation in the line item
If in the left top if it is inclusive you have to choose exclusive in the line item
If you understand and practise the concept will be clear to you
I have tried to explain you to the best of my ability and if you reply after understanding this will give a lot of satisfaction to me
For your qn no 2
One way of determining free goods is thro item cat determination as you mentioned
Another way is thro maintaining condition records in VBN1 and doing the entire free goods customization in spro
Constraints in free goods in R3 taken from SAP library
Free goods can only be supported on a 1:1 ratio. This means that an order item can lead to a free goods item. Agreements in the following form are not supported: u2018With material 1, material 2 and material 3 are free of chargeu2018 or u2018If material 1 and material 2 are ordered at the same time, then material 3 is free of chargeu2018.
Free goods are not supported in combinations with material structures (for example, product selection, BOM, variants with BOM explosion).
Free goods are only supported for sales orders with document category C (for example, not quotations).
Free goods are not supported for deliveries without reference to a sales order.
Free goods cannot be used in make-to-order production, third-party order processing and scheduling agreements.
If you defined a free goods for variants in a generic article (only SAP Retail), you can only process the variants in the purchase order and goods receipt individually (as single articles). In other words, you cannot process them using the generic article matrix.
Regards
Raja

Free Goods Determination Procedure

Can anyone simply tell me free goods determination procedure with an example?
Thanks

Hi,
Free goods is something that the customer is given after he buys certain quantity of the product/material.
Free goods is a strategy to increase sales volume by luring the customer that if he buys 10 products one will be absolutely free.
Free Goods:Goods that are given as additional goods as part of the ordered goods are called as free goods.Here the unit of measure of free goods should be the same as standard goods.
Example:If you are are ordering 10 maggi sauce bottle you will be paying for only 8 bottles 2 is given as freegoods.
price will not be reflected in pricing or billing.this is inclusive freegoods
Exclusive freegoods.
wherein the freegoods are given as additional good to that of the ordered goods
Example:For 4 coffee vending machine 1 kg coffee powder isgive as free goods
Sample goods:these are the goods which are given as pert of the promotional activity to increase the sales.
here the customer is not paying money.
Free goods - In SAP there are two types Exclusive and Inclusive.
Exclusive - Buy 2 and get 1 free. This means you have to buy minimum 2 pieces then on that you will get 1 piece absolutely free.
Inclusive - Buy 2 get 1 free. In this case it means you are paying for only 1 item and the other item is absolutely free.
Configuration:
IMG - Sales & Distribution - Basic Functions - Free Goods - condition technique for free goods -
1. create the condition table.
2. maintain access sequence and assign the condition table to the access sequence.
3. maintain condition type and assign the access sequence to the condition type.
4. maintain the procedure for free goods and assign the condition type to the free goods procedure.
5. Activate free goods determination. In this enter sales org., dis channel, division , docu pri pro, cust pri pro and the free goods procedure.
6. now go to VBN1 - create free goods determination. Select your condition type, key combination and enter. Here you enter sales org, dis channel, customer no., Valid from and Valid to dates. Then you first select whether it is exclusive or inclusive free goods determination. By default it will be inclusive if you click on exclusive it will become exclusive and on top it will display inclusive. Here you enter minimum quantity for free goods and from what order quantity the number of free goods. You can control the delivery also in the second last column(free goods delivery control).
Save the record. Go to VA01 create the sales order , enter the item and the minimum quantity for free goods to be applicable and observe the results.
Hope this will solve ur problem.
Plz reward Pts for useful answer.
Thx & regards,
Pankaj
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Pankaj Mahajan

Problen in free goods determination

hi buddies
when i was creating the free goods determination ,i am getting this error"alternative unit of measure EA not defined".
i given mat,qty,from,free goods,cl, and all and its asking unit of measure when i try to give EA overther, its saying that error
plz give me exact solution my friends
regards
madhu

Hi Madhu,
Pl check the unit of measure of both the materials in the MMR.
I think you maintained the Unit of Measure for the material with which you r determining is other than EA. thats way its giving that error.
You might defined EA for the material for which you want to determine free goods.
In the free goods determining condition record maintaine the Unit of measure of that material which you are giving as free.
Hope this will help you.
REWARD IF HELPFUL.
Regards,
Praveen

Alternative Free Good determination in Sales order

Dear Gurus,
We activated Free Goods determination. We are maintaining condition records in Tcode VBN1. We are creating the condition records using the fields Sales org, Distribution Channel and Sales Office. Condition record specifies the free good material and its quantity for main material with specified quantity. As of now, It is working fine and it is picking up the free good material correctly at Sales order if we create line item for main material.
As per the new requirement, if the free good material is not available in the stock, it should pick up other alternative free good material for the main material. Mean to say, we want to configure free good determination where we will specify two free good materials for one main material, then system will pick up one of the free good materials for main material in Sales order.
Ex: Main material : A
1st Free good material : F1
2nd Free good material : F2
If the stock for F1 free good material is not available then system should pick up F2 free good material automatically.
I have tried to map the another Free good material for main material in the same condition record, but system is not accepting to proceed further.
Kindly suggest what I need to do, what configuration is required. Please provide your valuable inputs.
Thanks
Chandra Mouli

FYI - Neel & Chandra Mouli
Substitution strategy in Material Substitution: Reason (TCode OVRQ ) controls whether product selection should occur automatically in the background or whether the alternative materials should be offered for selection in a dialog box. So, this product selection in the background is performed on the basis of the availability check.
The substitution reasons are entered in the master records for material determination.
Kindly test & share your feedback.
Thanks & Regards
JP

Choices for free goods determination

Hi all,
I want to have choices for free goods determination, like for Material A I want an option to select either of Material A or B.
Is this possible.
regards,
Vandana Arora

hello, friend.
it is possible to do this manually, and not through the free goods determination.
let us say you want to give 1 unit of either material A or B for every 10 units of C ordered by the customer. what you do is create a sales order for 10 units of C as the first line item. let us further say the first line item is item 10.
enter either A or B as the second line item, which is item 20. go to the column HL Itm and enter 10. also change the item category of this line item to TANN. just be sure to maintain this set up in item category assignment in IMG.
there are drawbacks to this procedure, in that your choices for free goods will not be limited to material A or B. but this could work for you.
you may also wish to create a BOM, wherein free good A can be replaced by B.
regards.

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