Register marks move to top of imposed PDF after color convert

I have an imposed PDF made up of 16 smaller files...It is imposed from Metrix and it creates a PDF.
I need to map the spot colors onto the color bar...I go to (ink manager) change the colors then (color convert) to map the colors
and the register marks go to the top of my work covering some of the images...the size of the one up is 9 x 4 (Trim) but the size of the media
with register marks is 10 x 5... after imposing the one up in Metrix.... Metrix creates registration marks and everything looks ok...
the pages imposed are centered from trim box and they impose correct....it is only after the color convert that the one up register marks
go to the top of the imposed file....I've talked to the people at Metrix...they have nothing on this matter....This issue only happens in
Acrobat 8 (Mac and PC) and Acrobat 9 (PC only) mac version of 9 is OK....Please don't tell me to flatten the file....our rip system can handle
trans....If I flatten the file it works but I get other issues....Is there a way to convert colors so the registration marks stay where they are like
Mac 9 version.
Thank you for any help
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Hi Cropas!
As stated above my PDF export settings you can read that this option is set to OFF. <Create Tagged PDF: Off>.
Indd can not cope with this option for embedded PDF document indd?

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