Regulating Message Type (E or W) through Message control

Dear All,
I have a requirement. The message that is been generated programmatically should be controlled at user level as Error or Warning message. I have got a suggestion that this can be controlled through message control.
But I have no idea on Message control and how I can link that to my program.
Please can anyone put some light into the matter.
Thanks & Regards,
Atanu

hi,
message control is one of the methods in ale, through which u can pass data between diff clients.
if u want to generate messages in ur program based on user thn u hav to giv authorizations based on user in program itself.
reward if hlpful.

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Message control
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message control to process ALE and EDI output types and this program on recieving the IDOC data will create the physical IDOC in the system.
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IMPORTING PARAMETERS
OBJECT LIKE NAST
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CONTROL_RECORD_IN LIKE EDIDC
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EXPORETING PARAMETER
OBJECT_TYPE
CONTROL_RECORD_OUT LIKE EDIDC
TABLES
INT_EDID LIKE EDIDD
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I have one requirement where in the customer wants to stop creation of IDOC which posts Invoice using message control and message control status should be changed to RED color and also the message should be populated in the processing log saying 'IDOC processing failed, External customer numbers not maintained'.
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Hi,
   I am sending the requirement.
Please send me the solution.
Requirements:
1.     EDI Invoice requires populating bottle UPC number not case UPC in IDOC and also populates customer PO number when invoice billing type is a credit. These changes need to be reflected on EDI invoice (Idoc INVOIC02).
Investigation:
Requirement 1. EDI invoices are populating segment E1EDP19 qualifier 003 based on the unit of measure in the line item. If shipment unit is CSE then it populates CSE upc, if shipment unit is EA then it populates Bottle UPC.
a.     It was found that the UPC populated on the EDI invoice was being read from material master Additional data tab. (Field SMEINH-EAN11). For the EDI invoice, the customers expect the bottle UPC on this column.
Requirement 2. Need to always populate Segment E1EDK02 Qualifier 001 (customer PO) on the INVOIC02 idoc. Standard SAP populates this information only when the billing type is F2 (regular invoice) and if the customer PO was entered in the Sales Order.
                            a) Premier requires this information to be populated in the idoc if the billing type is G2, RE, L2 also.
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Requirement 1.
       IDOC_OUTPUT_INVOIC function module needs to be changed to always populate the UPC number for the bottle UPC in segment E1EDP19 qualifier 003, field IDTNR. This number is found on the material master Basic data 1 view. Field name is MARA-EAN11.   Please see screenshot of where in the material master to find the bottle UPC.
     a. This change applies to all billing types (F2, G2, L2, RE etc).
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             Change IDOC_OUTPUT_INVOIC function module to always populate customer PO information in Segment E1EDK02 qualifier 001, field BELNR.
If billing type is equal to G2, L2, RE and VBRK-XBLNR not equal blanks then make BELNR = VBRK-XBLNR.
Segment: E1EDK02
                              Field: QUAL = 001
                              Field: BELNR = VBRK-XBLNR
Please help me how to move a step ahead.
Waiting for your immediate response.
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System should not save the invoice if there is error in A/C determination or other.At least system should give error message & do not save the invoice.
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