Replacement Windows Manager for OS X?

Hi, i love my Mac for only two reasons -- digital video editing with iMovie and it's unix core -- i've probably used FreeBSD longer than any other server OS.
I also love keyboard shortcuts.
I've had extreme problems with tendonitis, and carpal tunnel/ulnar tunnel syndrome.
Menus without lots of keyboard shortcuts are very frustrating since it forces me to use the mouse. The more I use the mouse, the worse my condition gets.
#1 - With that background in mind, I need a Windows Manager (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windowmanager#X_windowmanagers ) that would give me more keyboard shortcuts than OS X currently does.
I love all the keyboard shortcuts available in practically every program built for Microsoft Windows as well as the default apps in it such as Windows Explorer, etc.
I really, really need keyboard shortcuts like that or like they have in the Window Managers of KDE or GNOME.
If I could get that here on my Mac then I think I would cease to be frustrated with it.
#2 - One other thing, I would love a Windows Manager with a "taskbar" or "dock" or "menu bar" -- i don't care what you call it -- but I need a bar at the top or bottom of the screen that shows me ALL of my open windows.
#3 - It also must let me Apple-Tab through all of my open windows, not just the applications.
So... anybody know of a drop-in replacement Windows Manager that would let me still run native apps that I love like iMovie yet get the keyboard functionality that I need to prevent me from further exacerbating my medical condition?
I've researched this for at least a few hours and the System Preferences tweaks don't even come close to what I need. Those of you that use both KDE/Microsoft Windows/GNOME && OS X every day will at least partially understand the big difference between the two camps of Windows Managers(again see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windowmanager#X_windowmanagers if necessary).
Thanks so much to anybody that can even give me at least half of a solution -- i surely would appreciate it!!!

Mac OS X is not X-windows. I doubt that there is a "drop-in Windows manager".
Keyboard shortcuts are controlled on an application basis. But you can define your own shortcut for any menu command. See System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard Shortcuts.
Also, virtually anything you can do with the mouse can be done from the keyboard. See Mac Help, search for "Full keyboard navigation". For example, to navigate to a menu item, type Control-F2, then use the arrow keys to move to the menu item you want. Return activates the selected item, ESC cancels the operation. Control-F3 gives the same kind of access to the Dock.
Navigating open windows is easy: Command-Tab to the application, Command-` (back quote:forward/tilde:backward) to the desired window.
In dialogs, most buttons have a keyboard shortcut, although it is not always obvious what they are. The Blue button = Return, the Cancel button = ESC. Other buttons are typically Command-(first letter of the button name). For example "Don't Save"=Command-D, usually.

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m4co wrote:
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Roguish wrote:
Why not? I know tons of stuff applicable to Windows, I'd like to know more about Mac OS. And the best teacher is experience in my opinion.
But writing something like a window manager is hard. Wouldn't you rather start off slowly?
"Snap" is a rather convienient window resizing feature of Windows 7.
I have Windows 7 for running IE 9 to test web sites. It is dog-slow to I avoid it whenever possible.
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Xcode is pretty-much an all-encompassing environment. You should only have one Xcode window open. Source files are in the editing pane.
I just didn't want to start a flame war over operating systems. I personally don't have an OS preference; if an application I need is only on Mac OS then I'll use Mac OS, if I need to write a document I'll use Word in Win7, if I need to rapidly prototype a script for research purposes I'll use Ubuntu.
This is not Ars or Slashdot. This is Apple-land. Macs rule - end of story. If you try some Mac apps, you might find that Pages does anything Word does three times faster and OS X does anything Ubuntu does, only better.
It's a free country. Could you suggest a better one besides the developer tutorials in the Mac Developer Library? I've written a couple drivers using it, but I can't seem to find the correct wording to locate the current topic in there.
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I know what a "Window Manager" is. If you want to ask something specific, please do so.
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Was that so hard?
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You could cobble together some AppleScript such as you have already posted. However, that isn't going to teach you anything about OS X development either.
Next time could you be a little less smug (and a lot more helpful) when replying to an obviously new member to the forums?
Only if you meet me halfway. What kind of welcome would I get if I showed up in a Windows forum asking how I could learn about .NET by writing a Linux device driver? And then, for good measure, I call Visual Studio painful because it doesn't support some Mac features that Windows users have never heard of.
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[ Window Manager ] Blackbox 0.70 & bbkeys 0.9.0

This was a request, now the actual PKGBUILD...hurrah!
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Alucard wrote:
I've made a working blackbox PKGBUILD as well, and have managed to make a working PKGBUILD for bbpager
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Fast and clear way of browsing and selecting open windows -- I like it when this is not limited to one workspace, but does give distinction between the workspaces. The window selector in the top right corner of the Gnome desktop or clicking the third button on the desktop in Xfce is prime examples of this. Also, I like to have the option of doing this with the mouse or keyboard and I am annoyed that Alt Tab is limited to one workspace in most cases.
The ability to drag windows from one workspace to another
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Last edited by Smith oo4 (2008-04-24 22:26:41)

I value speed and configurability. Consequently, I use Openbox.
Smith oo4 wrote:It looks pretty -- Inviting window dressing with shadowing and fading. The transparency effects I never found that interesting. I have tried Openbox numerous times (played with its themes and everything) and I always find it dull and never used it for long. This realization came as a bit of a surprise to me, I had no idea that I valued looks so much.
If all you need is shadows/fading, Xcompmgr will work inside Openbox and provide those 'features' (I personally dislike them).
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Smith oo4 wrote:The ability to drag windows from one workspace to another
On Openbox, I just right-click the title bar and select 'Send to desktop...'. If you require the dragging functionality, most pagers (such as those in the GNOME or Xfce panels) allow you to drag windows. Bear in mind that more minimal WM's such as the *boxes and Pekwm can run any panel that you want (or no panel at all), so you can bring your GNOME panel along with you.

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{ "Mod4+Tab", "screen (next)" },
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{ "Mod4+Control+Down", "resize down" },
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{ "Mod4+e", "exec easytag" },
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{ "Mod4+g", "exec geany" },
{ "Mod4+t", "exec urxvt -bg black -fg white" },
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agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V2 device into 4x mode
nvidia 0000:01:00.0: putting AGP V2 device into 4x mode
musca[10748]: segfault at 41 ip b7eb2aa8 sp bfcb5d6c error 4 in libc-2.9.so[b7e40000+140000]
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: AGP 2.0 bridge
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V2 device into 4x mode
nvidia 0000:01:00.0: putting AGP V2 device into 4x mode
musca[11554]: segfault at 41 ip b7e7faa8 sp bfc82d2c error 4 in libc-2.9.so[b7e0d000+140000]
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: AGP 2.0 bridge
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V2 device into 4x mode
nvidia 0000:01:00.0: putting AGP V2 device into 4x mode
Just wanted to let you know. If its a bug, I will open it on your launchpad bugtracker.
Last edited by Inxsible (2009-03-13 06:28:52)

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I have a prototype for a new window manager in the style of wmii. It is called
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Disclaimer: I have a very limited knowledge of X11 and window manager
development. The most I've done is add a couple new features to wmfs.
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top of or behind it.
- cakewm manages column sizes (and window sizes within columns) using a
master/slave paradigm, with the ability to adjust the size ratios.
- cakewm's configuration file is simple key=val pairs, with the ability to
include other files like in C.
- cakewm has a slightly larger emphasis on window decorations (adjustable
size---even in tiled mode) and themes (nothing bloated, like pixmaps or
gradients---it's all still simple colors).
- cakewm will have proper support for international text (Japanese text in
window titles or the wmii status bar generally render as boxes) through the
use of a more advanced text library such as Pango.
Please let me know if you have comments, questions, or concerns. If you are
interested in helping, get in touch with me. If you know somewhere better to
look for volunteers, please let me know.

m4co wrote:
Wow is this forum active. Makes me feel welcome here
The thing about wireless, I actually like command line, but there are a few things that are worth having a applet or something.
And wireless is one of those. I guess I can take a look on wicd.
It's a good idea to have compiz as the WM actually. Would it be lightweight to have it like that?
Is there anybody here that uses compiz as a WM?
For the xfce4-panel, is it possible to get transparency on it? That's probably the only thing holding me back with xfce4-panel.
If "able to run compiz" wasn't a requisite, what other WM would you suggest for my "profile" ?
I would like to hear other users opinions who like to customize everything on a WM.
I recommend running Compiz by itself. There is a good wiki page on it in the Arch wiki. Some apps you'll want to go with it are:
LXAppearance --change GTK/icon theme
Feh or Nitrogen --Set Wallpaper
Xfce4-panel --The lightest one that works with Compiz properly
Or, if you don't want a panel: stalonetray
Compiz-deskmenu --For a customizable right-click main menu
Gmrun --Run dialog (Alt+F2 in most DEs)
And this helped me a lot.
Thank you all for the replies. I appreciate.
Xfce4-panel can have transparency. The only problem is that everything become transparent: text, icons, everything.
I use Compiz as a standalone WM and it is much lighter than DE+Compiz. My Compiz setup uses about 30MB(out of 1GB) more RAM than my Openbox setup (which are both the same except for the WM).

Collection query for computers with windows management framework 3.0

Hi,
collection query for computers with windows management framework 3.0, but I cant found a way. I cant see that it is in the inventory data for SMS_G_System_ADD_REMOVE_PROGRAMS_64.DisplayName.
So any way to get computers with windows management framework 3.0?
/SaiTech

select SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceID,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceType,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Name,SMS_R_SYSTEM.SMSUniqueIdentifier,SMS_R_SYSTEM.ResourceDomainORWorkgroup,SMS_R_SYSTEM.Client from SMS_R_System inner join SMS_G_System_SoftwareProduct on SMS_G_System_SoftwareProduct.ResourceId
= SMS_R_System.ResourceId where SMS_G_System_SoftwareProduct.ProductName like "Windows Management Framework 3.0%"
That won't work because as mentioned, it doesn't appear in ARP.
Torsten's suggestion will work or you can resort to software/hardware inventory using the info at
http://serverfault.com/questions/555100/methods-to-detect-version-of-windows-management-framework
Jason | http://blog.configmgrftw.com

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Hi. I am trying to find the SID for "Windows Manager\Window Manager Group". If anyone has that, I'd appreciate it. I am trying to build my "base build" Security Template for Server 2012, and I need to assign the default User Rights to that group, as it is
out-of-the-box. Problem is that the GUI does not accept that group name as valid, but I can see that the group is assigned user rights in the Local Security Policy. I typically just use a file ACL to do this (add the ACE and then run
icacls to get the SID), but that group name is not valid within that tool either. My guess if that this new "Windows Manager\Window Manager Group" group is a well-known SID. Thanks.

Ironically the SID is not listed on Microsoft's web page for well know
SIDs. I also noticed that when I dump the local users using powershell, every group and user is listed that I would expect to see, but this one is not in that list. It seems like it should be pretty easy for Microsoft to say what this does and when it can
be safely removed...
I figure one of two possibilities. Either this only matters when a specific feature is installed / active, or it is some remnant from development for a feature or implementation that didn't make it into the release to manufacturing. What ever the case it
would be nice if we could get clarification.

XFWM (XFCE Window Manager) hover effect for inactive windows

I use XFCE and its window manager, XFWM, and I quite like it. The only little thing that XFWM does not do, and that I really would have liked, was a visual effect: When hovering titlebar's buttons, there is usually a little effect. It's just a visual thing, but it also "confirms" which button you're about to click, and - maybe as a Windows user - I'm used to it, and to rely on it to check responsiveness and whatnot.
Anyways, while XFWM does support such a thing (depends on your theme, actually), it does so only for the active window. Inactive windows, or their decorations/button, will not react to mouse hovering. So I looked into it, and while this isn't supported by XFWM, it's quite easy to change it.
So I did, if anyone is interested the modified source code is available on this BitBucket repository, and you can also find a PKGBUILD in the AUR.

You should submit this upstream! Looks like a nice feature to add, imo

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