Return Goods to Vendor (Vendor return)
Dear all,
Kindly explain me the step by step procedure of returning goods to the vendor, there could be many scenarios like mentioned below ---
1) GR Still NOT done
2) GR is done but lying in quality stock/storage because of poor quality
3) Material has been issued to production for consumption, there it was found that NOT in usable condition
4) GR as well as IV is already done,now i want to return material back to vendor
5) GR,IV as well as payment is done,now i would like to return the goods back to vendor
Kindly guide me how to return the material back to the supplier in all the above scenarios and also kindly explain me why do we need to return the material some times through delivery process?
For all the above scenarios,guide me how to return through MM cycle.
Thanks & Regards,
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shruthirai wrote:
> Dear Pankaj,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Can you pl explain how to reverse/cancel the excise invoice in each case,kindly explain to me in steps with T.codes. Also i would like to know in which scenario we go for creation of Return PO?
> Kindly guide me.
>
> Thanks & regards,
1) GR Still NOT done
2) GR is done but lying in quality stock/storage because of poor quality
For above cases
Defintely stock should be received in physically/stores,after quality inspection only,it will returned.So stock should be
goods receipted in SAP as quality stock later put stock to blocked from quality,before/while doing
vendor returns release blocked stock to unrestricted to seperate storage location(create a new location for returns)
SAP Process
1. Create return delivery using MIGO(122 Mvmt) with reason for movement
2. Reverse excise using J1IS for returned material document,material document type - 'MATD',Series group,
excise group,year,vendor.In invoice screen,enter qty, assesable value(material p.o price).Carefully enter/calculate
excise duties for returned quantities only.Check for excise accounting enteries and post it.
3) Material has been issued to production for consumption, there it was found that NOT in usable condition
4) GR as well as IV is already done,now i want to return material back to vendor
For cases 3 & 4.
Move stock immediately to rework location,Bring material for quality inspection,transfer stock of material to its immediate
or its child material(using QA32) as per BOM.Material taken for production,hence invoice should have been done.
So adapt below process as below
1. Create return purchase order(tick mark vendor returns next to info record field)
2. Do migo w.r.t p.o check mvmt type - 161,enter qty,batch,reason for mvmt,delivery note no's
3. Reverse excise using J1IS(as explained for first 2 cases)
4. Create credit memo for vendor to reduce liability using MIRO(simulate for accounting entries)
5. Print credit memo document using MR90(Configure message output settings in SPRO)
5) GR,IV as well as payment is done,now i would like to return the goods back to vendor
Cancel payment document using FB08,void cheque,Follow steps for cases 3&4.
Hope this answer will solve your requirements.
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Returning goods back to Vendor in R/3
DEAR SAP GURU's: Good Day! I am on a project at the moment and I have never heard of returning goods back to the (started in the middle) vendor as they are doing. I am not saying it is wrong, but some new requirements for sending material out for repair, re-calibration, etc is coming in the future and I am unsure that it will work with returning the repairable material to Vendor or the Lab.This is material that is not being sold to customers, but has to be maintained for the company. We are also going to implement serialization profile as well as the equipment record. The process that is being done now that I am not familiar with (they are only using this for material that is not repairable, it example would be a wrong part number was rec'd into warehouse in error) is to perform a MIGO transaction with a 122 movement on the delivery note number. Reason is so shipping can have a document to ship out on versus a manual shipping document. I am used to returning material back to vendor in a Purchase Order with the "return" indicator flagged and performing a 161 movement. This also creates a shipping document back to the vendor. This is what I want to purpose to the company however, they just implemented the use of the 122 for their process now. Has anyone heard of doing the return to vendor with a 122 mvmt? Does anyone know if this will work for material we want to ship out to vendor? If so, how do capture the value and repair costs?
Hi Kimberly!
I wouldn't call me an expert for such questions, but at least some thoughts.
From logistic point of view, a 122 shipping should be OK - but your last questions points out the difference to a return PO (and 161): how to get correct values?!
When you can live with moving average (or standard) price, that's fine, but when you have to have the 'original' values from the PO or charge otherwise something for the goods, a 'whole' process starting with a return PO is necessary.
When going on to discuss this question with the customer, involve first more (or mainly) value interested people (FI or purchasing department) - from logistics you won't get understanding in the beginning.
Regards,
Christian -
Hi guys ,
please tell me the process for Vendor return goods in
MM.pls let me know the Transaction codes followed
for the process of Vendor Return Goods..
step by step process will be so helful for me.
Regards
JinoThere will be two differenet ways to do that
1) Vendor returns against original PO:
Returns to vendor will be created against the original purchase order using movement type 122 in MIGO transaction. This will have an exactly reverse effect to that of original goods receipt i.e. material stock will be reduced from the Inventory.
2) Vendor returns against Returns PO:
If the original purchase order reference is not known, you will prepare a Return Purchase Order using T. Code ME21N. Creation of a Return Purchase Order in the system is similar to that of a regular Purchase Order except that the Returns Indicator has to be ticked for each line item in the PO.
Next a GR will have to be done with reference to the Returns PO. Such Goods receipt and Invoice receipt has an exactly reverse effect than that of a Regular PO. Goods Movement Type 161 (T. Code MIGO) is used which reduces the material stock from the Inventory & creates Material and Accounting document -
Return goods to vendor after invoiced
Dear All,
My scenario says
that i have 100 quantity on PO and i have GRN 100 quantity and then also invoiced 100qauntity as per valued on PO.
now i need to return goods to vendor. how system will support ma scenario.
ThanksHi
Create a new PO with qty to be returned, with the returns item indicator falgged, return the Goods with 161 movment tyoe and perform the Credit memo using MIRO.
Thanks & Regards
Kishore -
QA11 Return Delivey quantity to Vendor ( Inbound Delivey Batch Split - PO)
Dear all
We have batch management & QM module active for Purchased item.
On Goods Receipt stock is posted to quality inspection and creates inspection lot.
Return Delivery Qty. to Vendor as below:-
Step1:- Tcode QA11
Entered Inspection Lot number and Press Enter key.
STEP2:- Defects Tab - entered UD as rejected and
Inspection lot stock tab - entered quantity in the Return Delivery field
Then press enter
STEP3:- System displays the popup screen to input Purchase order and item.
Then click on SAVE Button I got the below error message
error message:
19,480 KG Incorrect posting back to vendor,
The batch you entered XXXXX791 does not match batch YYYY770 in the PO.Hai,
U have to give the batch number manually i.e yyyy770.
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Third party returns from customer to vendor (Urgent)
Hi,
We have an urgent requirement regarding an issue with third party returns from customer.
The scenario required is as follows :
When the customer returns the goods in Third party proccess the goods should be directly returned to the vendor instead of receiving into our plant .
How can we map this bussiness proccess?
Currently the returns are handled as per the standard SAP proccess ie.,
Customer returns the goods> Return order is created>Return delivery created (PGR)>Credit memo created.
In this case we are receiving goods into our plant .Hi Shrikant
1. If delivery of goods is the only issue then you can ask customer to make invoice with Invoice to your company address and Delivery address as the vendor address. Practically it is possible.
2. Then you can make corresponding entries in SAP and regularise it.
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Nilesh -
WM-Batch management & vendor godds returning process
Hi All,
1.Please explain the process the auto batch picking for 201 and 261 movement types .I have configure complete batch management settings in both invemtory and wm level but auto batch is not picking when confirmaing the production order .As per business process the batch has to pick automatically via FIFO basis.Is ther e is any OSS note
2.What is the return delivery process to vendor.When i am returning material to vendor ,the outbound delivery is created and transfer ortder is creating sucessfully ,but at the time of PGI the system is displaying an error message as " goods receipt is not possible with this document ype.The document type i am using is correct speciaaly created and use for only for returns .What are the configurations required .The 601 movement type si configured for the warehouse type.
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hari prasadYou have to setup batch search strategy for inventory managment, and its condition records, to enable SAP to search and find a batch record.
follow the link and check the knots on the left menu
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/25/283be44f7811d18a150000e816ae6e/frameset.htm -
Return exc inv to vendor process
Hi,
I done Return del against this I create j1is(out going exc inv)
is it necessary update the reg?
my case i didn't update the reg j1i5..part 1 get updated but part 2 level no entry..y?
Rgs,
Priya.hi
Procedure to return stock to vendor
f LIV and Payment to Vendor is done then
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
if LIV and Payment to Vendor is not done then
1. MIGO > Return delivery > Material Document (Here refer GR doc, system will determine mvmt type "122" automatically)
2. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 122 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
3. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
4. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Original PO.
Note: - Excise Transactions to be followed if CIN functionality is in use. -
Return unrestricted stock to vendor
Dear gurus,
Our issue is as follows:
GR is done for a line item in PO. Inspection lot is generated and this material goes to quality stock. The material is then moved to unrestricted stock. The status of the inspection lot is REL, CALC and SPCO. In stock overview the material is in unrestricted stock.
Now we do not want to use this material. We have to return it to the vendor. Can anybody tell me how to return the material to the vendor in this case?
Thank in advance,
RamSince your stock is already cleared from Quality inspection and now lying in Unrestricted
Stock you can follow following procedure to return the vendor stock.
Go to MIGO->Good Issue>Other->Movement type 122.
Entered the material and stock details & vendor and post the document. It will reduce the stock from unrestricted stock. If you want finical effect of this to vendor account then in addition to this you need to created FI document in Tcode.F-43 which will raise the debit note to vendor.
There is another away when the material is in quality stock, while doing Usage Decision in stock posting there is filed for vendor return Qty if you entered in this then this will post both inventory as well as vendor posting in FI.
Regards,
Ajay Nikte -
Return delivery to import vendor
Hi all,
I have Created an
1.) Import PO.
2.)custom Miro done
2.) GRN done at Port Plant
3.) Created a STO and recived material at working Plant
4.) Invoice verification done
Now,I want to return a material to import vendor, what will be the steps to follow.
Pls help me to resolve the issues.
Thanx
Regards,
SAGARIF this is indian scenario than follow the steps below
Without creating GR Document, system will not reduce stock of material on the basis of return PO.
Return PO Cycle is as following;
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD, Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt, Doc Year, Series Group, Excise Group, Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO. -
Delivery type determination in case of returns to vendor without return PO
Hello Gurus,
When we create Return PO, and when we want to created delivery for this PO , we assign delivery type RL to the PO in SPRO.
Now when I return the material thorugh MIGO (without return PO) with delivery check box active, system determines different delivery type than RL. My question is that where do we assign this delivery type and how the system determines this delivery type in case of returns to vendor without return PO.
Thanks
PravinControl parameters at movement type level determine the delivery type created. I guess you are using MvT 161. Try configuring delivery category for MvT 161 in OMJJ.
Hope this helps.
Rajiv.. -
Vendor consignment return has no delivery shown in VL10B
Hi Friends,
Here is my issue,
Created a vendor consignment return PO 45-xx(Me21n, item Cat. K, tigged return indicator, configure error msg ME640 to W)
Then I go to VL10B, can not find my return 45-xx
My question is how to configue to enable return PO shown on Vl10b
Your advice will be deeply appreciated.
Thanks,
LDo you have "Shipping" data tab on your PO at item details level?
I believe you have completed below steps
1. maintain supplying plant as return plant
IMG-Material Management-Purchasing-Purchase order- returns order-returns to vendor
Here, make sure you've maintained Puurchasing Doc type as "NB" and Del,Type f. Retur as "RL"
2. add customer master data representing "return vendor"
3, checked "Return vendor" on the Purchasing segment for vendor
4 Assign vendor on customer master (under vendor master general data's control section) -
Error in Vendor consignment return PO.
Dear MM experts,
I'm creating a vendor consignment return PO but there's an error message " Return with SD delivery not possible for consignment items". Kindly assist which config that I'm missing out.
Regards,
DSingh.Hi,
If you want to return the material without using the SD delivery but still use return PO then in OME0 maintain the message 640 appl area ME to warning message or switch off.
Then you will be able to create the return PO.
Then go normal GR against This PO.
If you need to create the delivery in SD module then you have to use Return delivery process (MBRL)
Please refer these links too.
Return Consignment with return PO
Return with SD delivery not possible for consignment items
Please let me know if you have any issues.
Regards
Shalesh -
Hi All
In sales returns process the return goods are directly going to unrestricted use i want the goods to be posted to quality for that i have changed the movement type into 655 which directly posts to quality but for that material quality managment has been activated so that i am facing a problem
The Issue is follows:-
Change the inspection stock of material F-21166321 in QM only
Message no. QA495
Diagnosis
You want to make a stock posting to/from the inspection stock. This is not allowed for material F-21166321 because the quality inspection control has been activated by QM.
The following cases can occur:
The inspection stock should be increased, although an inspection is not foreseen for the current goods movement
The inspection stock should be released, although you can only do this using the QM transactions.
System Response
You cannot carry out the stock posting.
Procedure
Check both the QM inspection setup data and the movement type for material F-21166321 in the quality management view of the material master.
Exception:
If you post a return delivery to a vendor with reference to a purchase order, or cancel a goods receipt, the stock indicator from the order is proposed.
Check and modify this proposal as required.
The stock may have been transferred already and is therefore no longer in inspection stock.Dear Chandra
The material insection type 06 is active in this material, thats why it created inspection lot at the time of sales return. And you can move out the stock from quality using following functions
1. Find the inspection lot created against this material using transaction QA11, take Usage Dection and move Inspection Stock using the Inspection Stock Tab.
2. Or by cancelling the document that created inspection lot.
If you face problem in taking UD, the check the following:
Whether Inspection Lot requires quality inspection using Task List (i.e. Inspection Plan) or Material Specifications (check either using QA02 whether inspection plan is attached OR by MM02 / MM03 on QM View > Inspection Setup window, that has indicators for "Inspection with Task List" or "Inspectio with Material Specifications". Use QS61 to maintain Material Specification or QP01 to create inspection plan for the material if required (Note Valid From date of Inspection plan should be less than or equal to QA02, Inspection Lot: Key Date on Inspection Specification Tab otherwise use QA02 to change)
If find any problem, let me know
regards
Mobashir
Edited by: Muhammad Mobashir on Jan 23, 2009 12:24 PM -
Hi
seeking help to map following scenario in system.
'Return goods to vendor for a value different than original PO price or quanity'
how to do it in system,?Hi Akkshaya
During goods receipt your accounting will be as follows, for example:
Cr. Stock account - IUSD 100
Dr. GR/IR clrg account - USD 100
So, now you wish to return with a diiferent price, to vendor
Cr. Stock account - IUSD 110
Dr. GR/IR clrg account - USD 110
How to get this difference value and what would be the setting off account for the difference.
Ultimately, all the transactions which involve material valuation are intended for proper accounting.
Keeping this in view, please more elaborate your business scenario with example.
warm regards
sairam akundi
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