Return sales excise posting

Dear Excperts,
For return sales we are posting the excise JV through J1IH in additional excise tab with reference to excise invoice.but when we are seeing the same in J2I9 abstract view the values showing under crdit utilized during the month .but my cliaint wants to it should be shown under credit taken during the month.please clerify .
Thanks & Regards,
Prasad.

Hello Lakshmipathi,
Thanks for reply.
Scenario is as Below
Customer in Belgium wants to return some material which he has purchased from Vendor in South Korea in month Jan 2010.
Customer in Belgium has created Return Purchase order and Goods return document with movement type 161.
Vendor in South Korea has Created Return Sales order with Z document type.
As per standard process Customer in Belgium need to create Credit Memo after Goods Return by 161 movement, but canu2019t do that because some legal implications and so canu2019t send the Credit memo to customer in South Korea.
So Customer in Belgium is expecting Credit Memo first from Vedor.
So Vendor in South Korea, need to Create Credit Memo first before creating Return delivery.
Hopes this clears exact scenario.
Please advice how to create Credit memo first after Return sales order. If configuration is necessary for this, please advice to do it.
In brief, Vendor in South Korea, has Created Return Sales order and he want to create Credit memo before creating Return Delivery without Credit Memo from customer.
Best regards,
Mahesh

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Hello Lakshmipathi,
Thanks for reply.
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Edited by: Gojolly99 on Jul 10, 2011 8:38 AM

Dear Siddhartha,
This functionality was available in standard it self, Chose order type RE, Configure Delivery (PGR) and billing documents for the order type. It will reversal automatically the excise and sales etc..
In sales, customer will get debit and sales will get credit, so once you can take return this will get reverse including excise, sales and cst / vat.
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Which control you require ?? Do you want system not to accept this returns ?? Please elaborate your requirement clearly.
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Incase of Return Sales Order:
T.Code for copy control: VTAF
Source Document: F2
Target Document: RE
Item category REN
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Create return sales order RE (with Reference to Billing Document) & the data will be copied as it is in Return Sales Order - RE. For Eg: here you require to change to quantity from 10 to 2, as you want to take back into Inventory of only 2.
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T.Code for copy control: VTLA
Source Document: RE
Target Document: LR
Item category REN
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Create Return Delivery through T.Code VL01N & do PGR (Post Goods Receipt). This will add the stock to blocked stock. This will take care of Inventory.
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T.Code for copy control: VTFA
Source Document: RE
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Item category G2N (Check in System)
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Already this topic was discussed so many times and please make a search.
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I will explain u clearly, at the time of budget changes our SD consultants done some changes,it taken too much time to complete, but our client was not able to stop the despatch so with wrong values around 1000 nos. of excise invoice posted, amount difference are around 28 lacs. Now they want to adjust the amounts through JV, which should effect in J2IUN also. Accouting document generated at the time of Excise Invoice is
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As far my understanding the excise law, the excess amount paid by you can only be refunded by excice office.
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