Revised Project Start & Finish Dates

Dear All,
Where i can see Project orignal start & finish dates and Revised start & finish dates
Is their any report or transaction available.
Pls confirm me.
Thanks in Advance.
Regards,
Sandeep N.Theurkar

Hi Sandeep,
The project system does not keep the original dates somehwere automatically. If you would like to have such 'baseline', a option is using version as mentioned above. An alternative is just transfer the basic dates to the forecast dates as base line, after the planning is finish. In this way, you get two sets dates of the same object.
Kind regards,
Zhenbo

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Will there be any implications on performance /status reporting etc if we personolise Schedule start & finish dates.
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Needs your inputs....
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Marc,
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got a little more confusing. Instead of leaving the Start date as is, the Start field was converted to a text field and the old Start field was renamed as Scheduled Start. When in auto-schedule mode, both Start and Scheduled Start are exactly the same.
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2, Yes, Project does its scheduling based on the current plan which is represented by start, finish and other data. Once the project starts, that current plan must be updated so the actual date values come into play. As noted in the lead in paragraph, Scheduled
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Hi,
In the end, yes, once actuals are recorded, all these values are the same - but before that they can all be different!
Before an actual start is recorded, the column shows "NA" (wich obviously is different from Start :-)). To the scjheduling engine, thsi means the start can be freely calculated (from predecessors or resource leveling, f.i.) whereas when a date
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So these two values are not Always identical!
As for Scheduled start, that is indeed meaningless for automaticlly calculated tassk. But for manually scheduled tasks it does play a role. For a manually schduled task, you can set any start value you want (even a litteral such as "when we have
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AR,
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the default start/finish dates for resource assignments are the activity start/finish dates. if for any reason you changed that, you can check and reset both Original Lag and Remaining Lag to 0 for all/ some of your resource assignments by adding the columns in the Resource Assignments window and performing either a fill down or a Global Change operation. let me know if you need help with any of these.
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