RGB-sRGB
I took several images earleir today, half in RGB, half in sRGB, but now that they are loaded into Lightroom, I cannot tell which ones are which. I assumed the metadata would tell me but it doesn't. There has got ot be a way to tell, please help!
Laura Mowrey
elie-d wrote:
By the way, the whole point of color management in applications like LR, PSCS and some browsers is that in the on-screen display the image colors are remapped from their original space to the monitor space, in order to make the display more accurate. This means that no matter what the source space most colors will be exactly the same on the monitor with only those colors that are outside the monitor's gamut showing slight differences in the compromises involved in the way they are rendered.
Quite so. Most monitors have a colour space pretty close to sRGB (that's why sRGB was designed: to be typical of computer monitors). As a result, if the monitor is properly colour managed (you are using colour-aware software and have a profile for the monitor) then you won't - or certainly shouldn't - see any significant difference between an sRGB image and an Adobe RGB image. The reason: colours outside sRGB will be clipped into sRGB and colours inside sRGB are identical in Adobe RGB anyway.
The only time Adobe images should look different on a monitor will be if the monitor is "wide-gamut" - it has a gamut significantly wider than sRGB - and it's properly colour managed. Otherwise, if sRGB and Adobe RGB images look different, it means colour management isn't working, and one (or both) are the wrong colour.
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PSC6 Black Artifacts converting to RGB & sRGB on Dell
Hi guys, I recently changed pc and monitor causing a damn problem with those color spaces!
My monitor is a Dell u2412m and by default it's setted on:
Now when I open a RAW file with ACR and choose sRGB as color space the result is this:
As you can see, most of the photo presents black shadows. If I save the file and I open it with windows image it's perfect. Indeed, if I choose ProPhoto for monitor and for the photo the visualization is fine:
I must change the color space in sRGB or even RGB before save the final image so I really would like to se a real preview of it in photoshop instead of saving it first. So the problem occurs when I save to RGB (less artifacts) and sRGB (lots of artifacts!). I can't understand this because I'm using the same color space as default for my monitor. Any guess?
The pc configuration is:
Intel i7 3770
Ati HD7870 driver Ati 12.11 beta
RAM 16gbHi there! Because the forum you originally posted in is for beginners trying to learn the basics of Photoshop, I moved your question to the Photoshop General Discussion forum, where you'll get more specialized help.
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Tried unchecking "Embed Color Profile" when saving a .psd to .jpg.
Still don't see the drop down menu for assignng color profile.
Where is the assign color profile to save or convert the color profile of image files?Edit – Assign Profile
Edit – Convert to Profile
You might want to read up on the (very important) difference between the two if You haven’t yet.
Several threads in this forum concerning the matter exist. -
PLEASE HELP... what is the best RGB or sRGB
I have adobe CS4 and my camera
shoots in RGB what is the best color profile to use!!!!!!!!
also I use a NIKON DSLR D80 and I want a crisp clear fast lens with a 1.8 apeture zoom what would I look for??Which profile is "best" depends on what you want to do with your pictures afterwards. Assuming you plan to keep as many options as possible without compromising on quality, then selecting RAW format and the "Adobe RGB" profile in the camera are best - in that order of importance. Next, RAW files only yield excellent quality if they are properly processed; this takes the appropriate skills and competence as the foremost ingredient – and also a decent RAW converter software such as, for example, Photoshop Lightroom or Capture NX 2 for your Nikon SLR. This expands the range of selectable working colour spaces and profiles that can be embedded upon exporting your files.
Lightroom uses "Pro Photo RGB" natively because it has the largest gamut of those most commonly used in the professional field. The obvious advantage of a large colour space comes at a price however: To retain the finer nuances, data must be stored at 16 bit depth per channel which doubles the file size and is not compatible with compression methods such as JPEG. So if photos are exported after the editing, it is often advisable to convert them to a smaller colour space, either Adobe RGB, sRGB (for general or web use respectively) or the particular printer's profile for direct output.
Capture NX 2 works similarly; here, you can actually select any installed ICC profile for the working space and override the camera setting that is embedded in (but not applied to) the RAW file. For reasons too numerous and too scientific to elaborate here, my favourite working space profile is eciRGB v2 which is also recommended for professional imaging workflows by the European Colour Initiative (ECI). Among the distinct advantages of eciRGB v2 over Adobe RGB, it has a D50 (5000 Kelvin) white point and an L* lightness curve instead of a gamma curve; this translates to a significantly better match with typical printing spaces (Adobe RGB can clip some pure ink colours even in relatively small offset printing spaces, e.g. ISO coated v2) and coding efficiency for 8-bit-per-channel data (which means less problems with soft gradients or skin tones because the L* curve closely matches human perception).
eciRGB v2 is available here: http://www.eci.org/doku.php?id=en:colourstandards:workingcolorspaces -
Hey people,
I have the following problem: I have a RGB image from photoshop (its an image from a microscope, basically black background with red and blue contours of a cell) and I copy/pasted this image to a RGB document in Illustrator. The image itself is rectangular, but I want to have it square. So, I created a square black box (black in this case was RGB black: R=0 G=0 B=0) and placed it behind my image.
On my screen it always looks as it should be, no differences in the the black colors of the microscopy image and the black object of Illustrator. Both in the Illustrator file and after exporting it as a .pdf-file, there's no difference.
However, when I print the file with a color laser printer (it's a HP printer, can't specify it more, sorry for that), my image is like "real black" and the square box behind is more "greyish"...Changing the color profiles in the Illustrator file (from RGB to CMYK in Data-->Document color mode --> CMYK) or in the options when I export the pdf file didn't help, the files still look good on the screen, not on the printed paper. If there's any other way to solve it, I would be pleased to have the image not in the CMYK mode, because the contrast and general appearance of the images is worse in the CMYK profile.
I hope some of you guys can help me! It's incredibly important to solve that problem, because my images finally gonna get published, so I would really appreciate any help!
Best,
The_Bacillus_GuyWow, thank you for the incredibly fast responses!!!
@CHMprepress: I cannot adjust the image, it's for a scientific publication and the images itself have to be shown with as less modifications as possible!
@steve fairbairn: I've just measured the different shades of black and in both Photoshop and Illustrator. Both say it's: R=0 G=0 B=0. I also checked the color of the pasted image in Illustrator. It's all the same...
@badchess: The color settings are the same in both files. I basically used the pre-setting "North America General Purpose 2"
RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
CMYK: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
Or do you think I have to change any of the other options?
Changing the appearance of black in the preferences doesn't help either...
Could it also be a problem of the printer? -
RGB CMYK PDF EXPORT.(colour conversion) Keeping your colours vibrant and your blacks black.
Ive been tearing my hair out for the best part of 14 hours trying to figure out how to keep the closest possible conversion for working with images(rgb in photoshop) right the way through a work flow until exporting to print (having used the image in Indesign). Here is the process I have been trying to get right.
1) working with RGB photo images in photoshop and converting them to CMYK (whilst holding on to as much colour as poss)
2) Importing them to Indesign and retaining the correct colours while working with them)
3) Exporting to high quality print and having all your colours stay 100% the same as you saw them within indesign.
I believe I have the solution so I posted my settings below to see if its the best way of doing things and to help others who might be having the same problems.
The problem
The problem is that there are many different colour models/profiles (both in RGB and CMYK) and each program can effect how the next one handles and stores colour. It can become frustrating knowing where to go in order to set the settings correctly as the combination of things to consider can make it confusing.
I understand many other people have similar problems and finding RGB blacks come out as grey. CMYK spaces get converted from one type to another either from one program to the next or even as things move around one program (causing all sorts of wonderful,colour errors) Plus you have imported colour profiles, working colour profiles and export profiles. All of which can interact and effect each other) So getting it all consistent is key other wise colours change and get washed out. Especially vibrant colours like greens and blues. they fade etc.
Through sheer trial and error and perciverance I found a combination of settings that worked well for me.
Since I am not an expert I wanted to post up my settings to:
1) see if this is the best way of doing things.
2) Other people may find them useful if they had the same problems I had,
The Solution
In photoshop
Save the photoshop image in CMYK by selecting:
Edit > Convert to prfile.
(in destination space)
select: Euroscale Coated v2 (I think this holds the colours the truest of all CMYK colour formats.)
(in conversion options)
- Engine: Adobe ACE
- Intent: Perceptual.
- Check Use black point Compensation.
(leave all else unchecked)
Save the image ready to place in indesign (place rather than copy and paste.).
In Indesign
edit > colour settings (make sure you click on the advanced tick box to open more options)
- Working space: =
- RGB: sRGB IEC....
- CMYK Euroscale coated v2
- RGB & CMYK convert to working space.
- Engine Adobe ACE
- Perceptual
- Use black point compensation
edit > Assign profiles
- RGB profile. > Assign current workspace: sRGB IE
- CMYK > Assign current work space Euroscale Coated V2
- Solid colour intent : preceptual
- Default image intent
- After blending intent: Perceptual.
edit > convert to profile. (use similar as above).
edit > Preferences > Apprearance of black
- on screen / export : Display all blacks as enriched black
- Priniting and export : Display all blacks as enriched black
Overprint: (not checked)
------ when exporting to PDF ----------
File > Export
in GENERAL TAB
- Adobe PDF preset: High quality print.
- Standard (drop down menu): PDF/X-42008
- Compatability: Acrobat 5 PDF1:4
in OUTPUT
- COlour conversion: Convert to destination
- Destination: Working CMYK Euroscale Coated v2
in PDF/X
- Output intent profile name: Working CMYK - Euroscale Coated v2
also:
If you are having problems with fill blacks not coming out as proper black then use registration instead of black from the swatch panel.
The above may seem either obvious to most of you or possibly not the best way of doing things but since the results worked for me and I found them tough to arrive at, it may be of use to others hence my post.
I would like your feedback on this process, have I done something wrong / could do better? If so please let me know. I am keen to improve.I would copy and paste into InDesign forum. Text should stay 100% black. Any other black (like solid boxes or thick lines), I usually use a rich black swatch I created at 40/40/40/100. Looks 10 times better than just 100% black.
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Wide Gamut Monitors & 10.6 Default Monitor RGB
Hi, an Adobe employee just told me Snow Leopard 10.6x defaults untagged and unmanaged color, that SL "uses sRGB for untagged images/graphics, and converts to the profile for each display”.
I no longer have a WIDE GAMUT monitor to test myself.
Can a few people with wide gamut displays running 10.6x and Safari 5 please go to
www(dot).gballard.net/photoshop/srgbwidegamut.html
and roll over the tagged and untagged sRGB images at the top of the page.
And post back if they "match" to prove or disprove his statement?
(By his statement, the tagged and untagged rollovers should "match."
Also, if they shift, how does the untagged sRGB change in appearance?
Thanks (I am trying to get my page updated)...That's expected, a wide gamut monitor will be a lot redder.
Yes. Just a lot more color range and gamut to view than a "standard" monitor.
Tagged) Photoshop/Safari is reading the embedded profile and CONVERTING to Monitor RGB.
Actually, that's what the OS or Photoshop always does. No matter what you're viewing in Photoshop, and no matter what the CMYK, RGB or grayscale working spaces are set at, the color you view is always your monitor profile, which is the last conversion done before displaying the image in Photoshop to the screen. Which is why I use my monitor profile as my working RGB space. I want my images to contain the color data of the device I'm viewing, not a canned space forced to fit. Here's what I mean. This image is Adobe RGB and my monitor profile overlaid. It's mostly a top down view. That was the best orientation I could turn the 3D map to for the example.
The ghosted map is the monitor space. As you can see, if I were to use Adobe RGB as my working space, I'd be losing all of the color I could be using that extends beyond Adobe RGB (reds through pinks, greens), since Adobe RGB would limit how far I could saturate those colors, as it has to stay within the limits of the profile. On the other side of the coin, the left side shows how much of Adobe RGB extends beyond my monitor space. The even brighter pinks through bright cyans across the top left.
But I don't care about that color. I already get all the saturation I can reasonably use for a photo. I mean, just how unnaturally bright do you want someone's lime green shirt to look? Using a color space your monitor can't display is also a very bad idea in my opinion. Say you're happy with the color you see on your current monitor. Then you get a new monitor at some point with an even wider color range. Suddenly, those bright pinks are way more saturated than you remember. What's wrong? Nothing. Your new monitor is just showing you values that were already in your Adobe RGB tagged image your previous monitor was incapable of displaying. I would much, much rather use my monitor profile for my RGB images. Then when I do move to any even wider range monitor, ColorSync/Photoshop will be able to properly map the color to fit the new monitor profile so the images look identical, or nearly so, as they did on the monitor I was using before.
In short, I consider canned profiles such as Adobe RGB, sRGB, ColorMatch RGB, etc. completely useless. None of them represent the device (monitor) in front of you. Only a properly created monitor profile is accurate to that device.
If the Adobe theory were true, you would NOT see a brighter, redder image on the rollover (they would "match").
Sorry, -g. By, So far, it sounds like his theory is true., I just meant that my tests were following his theory up to that point. After that though, it falls apart.
Can you tell me if Photoshop> Assign Profile (your custom EIZO monitor profile) displays like the Safari untagged rollover (especially level of saturated reds)?
Yes, but it looks that that to start with if I open the untagged image and tell PS to leave the color as is. So PS/ColorSync is already doing the only thing it can do with the color, mapping it to fit the monitor profile. -
Why do the relative values of RGB and CMYK change when switching between Photoshop and InDesign?
I'm trying to put together a Colour Guide for my company's brand guidelines.
I initially worked from InDesign and wrote down all the H, RGB, and CMYK values that I got when I eye-dropped my original colour palette.
However when I put the same RGB values into Photoshop- I am given a (slightly) different set of CMYK numbers from those that I had originally documented in InDesign.
Why is this???Jamie,
in Photoshop go to Edit > Color Settings and choose your parameters:
For RGB: sRGB or AdobeRGB (1998)
For CMYK: the process as recommended by your printer (person, company)
For offset printing this is here ISOCoated-v2-eci and elsewhere for instance SWOP.
For digital printing you should ask the company as well.
For Grayscale: Gray Gamma 2.2
For Spot: probably irrelevant in the moment. Dot Gain 20%
Everything as shown here:
For your application I've modified my settings a little, therefore we can see top left 'unsynchronized'.
In InDesign do practically the same, but there are no settings for Grayscale.
You'll find for any topic explanations if you move to by mouse (position the pointer over ...).
The field 'Settings' shows not 'Custom' but the file name of a configuration which had been previously saved
and then loaded (buttons top right).
Further explanations on request. It would be quite useless to explain everything now at the same time.
The colors will be wrong if the settings are not synchronized. Above they are explicitly synchronized.
Because Bridge was not used, the system considers them as 'not synchronized', which doesn't matter.
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann -
Question for you. I'm really trying hard to develop a great color work flow. I realized after my new discovery I didn't to proof my photoshop files under Blurb's cmyk profile any longer. I went under Proofing and selected the calibration I have done with my X-rite colormunki. I realize under custom is the whole array of choices from the default Apple RGB to selecting the calibration colormunkit profile I do every two weeks with my X-Rite Colormunki. I just realized there are other settings I can select as well. One being the legacy Macintosh RGB Gamma 1.8. then Internet Standard RGB (SRGB), and finally Monitor RGB. the second of first choice
This question has gotten more intense for me. Since I'm working in Photoshop on files for my website should I set the monitor to Internet Standard RGB (sRGB) when I'm color correcting and adjusting my files for the web. Also should I go under custom and select the X-Rite Colormunki profile? Also since I'm going to only use SRGB files for Blurb books and not use Blurb's Icc profile any longer. Should I also select the Internet Standard RGB (sRGB) as for my monitor while adjusting my files for Blurb books or leave it as one of the other two legacy Macintosh RGB Gamma 1.8 etc?
Help
Now again I'm wondering when I'm printing files for my Epson printers should I select legacy Macintosh RGB Gamma 1.8 or monitor RGB. Also should I choice the X-rite calibrated profile. I know when I'm in the Epson driver I go and select the printer profile for the printing paper I will be using.hi,
your hardware-profiled (device-specific) monitor profile should always be highlighted in System Preferences> Displays> Color: Display Profile — never set your monitor profile to device-independent profiles like sRGB, AdobeRGB
forget anything to do with 1.8 Mac legacy gamma...profile your monitor to something like 6000 kelvin, D60, 2.2 gamma, luminance 120 cdm2
for the Web, always Edit> Convert to sRGB (if not already there), then File> Save for Web & Devices — include the sRGB ICC profile or not (i usually strip the profile for the Web)
Photoshop already displays sRGB 'accurately' so i wouldn't get too caught up in second guessing that for Web publishing
here is some reading
basic theory (Photoshop color management)
save for web (see profiles in action)
5 simple steps to profile enlightenment (assign or convert profiles)
Photoshop Manages Colors print workflow (Source> Print Profile)
when you come back, i will recommend you only discuss one point at a time and include screenshots... -
I've done a bit of searching but this is what I'm trying to do:
I have 9 folders (unit 01, 02, etc.) with CS3 .eps files in them. I want to rasterize these files in PS CS3. I would like to use the tools>photoshop>image processor from Bridge to do so. I was successful at setting it up but the resolution was only 72 dpi. I need a 200 dpi Lambda profile TIFF. I was able to set up an action in PS to flatten and set the Lambda profile, which I could also run from the image processor dialog - but how do I adjust the dpi?
Thanks>I mean View>Actual Pixels.
Then, of course, you will see side-stepping pixels in your rasterized image that you would not see in a Vector image.
What does it look like at actual "Print Size"?
6050 x 3051 pixels would produce a print of 23.8" x 12" at 254 ppi. Is that big enough or should you be creating a larger image?
Talk to your people to see if they can run from a PDF (which would retain the vectors and only rasterize them on output at the full DPI of the Durst Lambda) but it does seem that you may need to supply a Tiff and this Info. might be helpful from:
http://www.chromatics.com/Serv-PhotoPrints.htm#PreparingFiles
>
Preparing files for Lambda-Direct self-service printing
>Files for Lambda-Direct prints are imaged "as received" with no adjustments. We accept tiff and JPEG files.
For predictable results, you must be using full color-management with Photoshop 6, 7 or CS and an accurately profiled monitor using one of our printer profiles for soft-proofing. These are basic tools required for preparing files for this service and we cannot be responsible for poor results if your system is not fully compliant. Sources of good information on monitor profiling and colorimeters are X-Rite , Colorvision and Dry Creek Photo.
Files should be saved at 254 ppi at the final image size you need, saved in a standard color space, like Adobe1998 RGB, ColorMatch RGB, sRGB, ProPhoto RGB or CMYK (swop2) and tagged accordingly.
Do not convert your files to our printer profiles and do not tag your files with our printer profiles. Use our printer profiles only for soft-proofing, then save your file in one of the standard color spaces.>
So, basically:
Prepare a Tiff file for full output-size at 254 ppi.
Use the Lambda Profiles (which you can get here):
http://www.chromatics.com/sidebar-Profiles.htm
for Soft Proofing ONLY.
But retain the Tiff in a recognized and tagged RGB space and let your Lambda operator apply the correct Profile in the "Print" dialog. -
Confused about Color Management in CS5 (Photos appearing differently in all other programs)
I recently noticed this and it's been driving me crazy; when I view photos in Photoshop CS5 they appear significantly lighter/more washed out than when viewed in other programs like Zoombrowser, Digital Photo Professional or just in a regular Windows folder using Filmstrip mode (Windows XP). When opening the same photo in both CS5 and Zoombrowser and switching back and forth between the two windows the difference is very apparent...for example, one of the photos I compared was of a person in a black shirt -- in CS5 (lighter/washed out) the folds in the shirt were very obvious, but in Zoombrowser (darker, more contrast/saturation) the folds were nearly invisible and it looked like just solid black. Now, after messing around with the settings in both Photoshop and in Zoombrowser I've found a few ways to get the photos to look the same in the two programs; one way gives them both the lighter/more washed out appearance and another way gives them both the darker appearance with more contrast and saturation. My problem is that I'm not sure which view is accurate.
I use a NEC MultiSync LCD1990SXi monitor with SpectraView II calibration software and calibrate it every 2 weeks using these calibration settings (screenshot): http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8826/settingsx.jpg
In the SpectraView II Software under Preferences there's an option that says "Set as Windows Color Management System Monitor Profile - Automatically selects and associates the generated ICC monitor profile with the Color Management System (CMS)." This option is checked. Also, when I open the Windows' Color Management window there's only one option displayed, which is "LCD1990SXi #######" (the ####### represents my monitor's serial number).
I assume the above settings are all correct so far, but I'm not sure about the rest.
Here are my current default Color Settings in CS5 (screenshot): http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/666/photoshopcolorsettings.jpg
Changing these settings around doesn't seem to make the photo appear much different. However, when I go to Edit -> Assign Profile, then click off of "Working RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1" and instead click Profile and select "LCD1990SXi ####### 2011-06-21 18-30 D65 2.20" from the drop-down menu, the picture becomes darker with more contrast and saturation and matches the picture in Zoombrowser. Also, if I select "Adobe RGB (1998)" from the drop-down menu it's very similar in terms of increased darkness and contrast but the saturation is higher than with the LCD1990SXi setting. Another way I've found to make the image equally dark with increased contrast and saturation is to go to View -> Proof Setup -> Custom and then click the drop-down menu next to "Device to Simulate" and select "LCD1990SXi ####### 2011-06-21 18-30 D65 2.20" again.
Alternatively, to make both images equally light and washed out I can go to Zoombrowser -> Tools -> Preferences and check the box next to "Color Management: Adjust colors of images using monitor profile." This makes the image in Zoombrowser appear just like it does in CS5 by default.
Like I said, I'm confused as to which setting is the accurate one (I'm new to Color Management in general so I apologize for my ignorance on the subject).
It would seem that assigning the LCD1990SXi profile in CS5 would be the correct choice in order to match the monitor calibration given the name of the profile but the "Adjust colors of images using monitor profile" option in Zoombrowser sounds like it would do the same thing as well. Also, I've read that Photoshop is a color managed software whereas Zoombrowser and Windows Picture and Fax Viewer are not which makes me think that maybe the lighter/washed out version seen in Photoshop is correct. So which version (light or dark) is the accurate one that I should use to view and edit my photos? Thanks in advance for any help or info.Sorry for the late reply;
But before we go there or make any assumptions, it's important for
you to determine whether you're seeing consistent color in your
color-managed applications and only inconsistent color in those that are
not color-managed. For that you'll need to do a little research to see
if the applications in which you're seeing darker colors have
color-management capability (and whether it is enabled).
I opened the same picture in 7 different applications and found that the 6 of the 7 displayed the photo equally dark with equally high contrast when compared to the 7th application (CS5). The other 6 applications were Zoombrowser EX, Digital Photo Professional, Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, Quicktime PictureViewer, Microsoft Office Picture Manager and Firefox.
However, at least two of these programs offer color management preferences and, when used, display the photo (from what I can tell) exactly the same as Photoshop CS5's default settings. The two programs are two Canon programs: Zoombrowser EX and Digital Photo Professional. Here's the setting that needs to be selected in Zoombrowser in order to match up with CS5 (circled in red):
And here's the setting in Digital Photo Professional that needs to be selected in order to match up with CS5 (again, circled in red):
*Note: When the option above "Monitor Profile" is selected ("Use the OS settings") the image is displayed exactly the same as when the monitor profile is selected. It's only when sRGB is selected that it goes back to the default darker, more contrasty version.
So with the red-circled options selected, all three programs (CS5, ZB, DPP) display the images the same way; lighter and more washed out. What I'm still having trouble understanding is if that ligher, more washed out display is the accurate one or not...I've read several tutorials for all three programs which only make things more confusing. One of the tutorials says to always use sRGB if you want accurate results and *never* to use Monitor Profile and another says that, if you're using a calibrated monitor, you should always select Monitor Profile under the color management settings...so I'm still lost, unfortunately.
What I also don't understand is why, when the monitor profile is selected in CS5, the image is displayed in the dark and contrasty way that the other programs display it as by default but when the monitor profile is selected in Digitial Photo Professional it displays it in the lighter, more washed out way that CS5 displays it using CS5's default settings (sRGB). Why would selecting the monitor profile in DPP display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in Photoshop? And vice versa...why would selecting the monitor profile in Photoshop display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in DPP?
I feel like I'm missing something obvious here...which I probably am. Again, I'm very new to this stuff so pardon my ignorance on the topic.
By the way, I find that the way that the non-color managed programs (Windows Picture and Fax Viewer et al.) display the photos is more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the duller, more washed out display that CS5 gives the photos, but ultimately what I want to see in these programs (especially PS5 where I'll be doing the editing) is the accurate representation of the actual photo itself...i.e. what it's supposed to look like and not a darker (or lighter) variant of it.
So just to reiterate my questions:
Why does selecting Monitor Profile under the color management settings in DPP give the same display results as the default sRGB profile in CS5 and vice versa? (CS5 with monitor profile selected having the same display results as DPP with the sRGB profile selected)
When using CS5 with it's default color management settings (sRGB), using DPP with the Monitor Profile selected, and using Zoombrowser EX with "Adjust color of images using monitor profile" selected this results in all three programs displaying the same lighter, washed-out images...is this lighter, more washed-out display of the images shown in these three programs the accurate one?
I noticed when opening an image in Firefox it had the same darker, contrasty look as the other non-color managed applications had. Assuming that the CS5 default settings are accurate, does this mean that if I edit a photo in CS5, save it, and upload it to the internet that other people who are viewing that image online will see it differently than how it's supposed to look (i.e. in a non-color-managed way?) If so, this would seem to indicate that they'd see a less-than-flattering version of the photo since if their browser naturally displays images as darker and more contrasty and I added more darkness and contrast to the image in CS5, they'd be seeing a version of the photo that's far too dark and probably wouldn't look very good. Is this something I have to worry about as well?
I apologize for the lengthy post; I do tend to be a bit OCD about these things...it's a habit I picked up once I realized I'd been improperly editing photos on an incorrectly calibrated monitor for years and all that time and effort had been spent editing photos in a certain way that looked good on my incorrectly calibrated monitor but looked like crap on everyone else's screen, so the length and detail of this post comes from a desire to not repeat similar mistakes by editing photos the wrong way all over again. Again, thanks in advance for all the help, it's greatly appreciated! -
Help! Colour banding graphics problem /posterization?
Hi.
I've been having a few problems lately with colour banding/gradients/posterization. I first noticed it 3 or 3 days ago in photoshop, and seem to have noticed it's mostly system wide. I ask her because you're all clever and I don't have a clue what to do next! So please help me!
Quoted from my thread somewhere else that I've had no luck with and was recomendded to try here...
Since yesterday whenever I'm using Photoshop and there is blurred edges/gradients etc, basically not solid colours, there is really noticeable sharp colour banding lines around it.
It's happened before and I've accidentally had it on 8-bit instead of 16-bit, but I've checked all that and it's on 16-bit.
I've googled it and the only suggestion was about duplicating the layer and blurring it then adding noise, but that didn't even work.
[EDIT] SINCE THEN I HAVE REALISED IT IS AFFECTING SYSTEM WIDE GRADIENTS AND COLOURS
My system is set to Highest 32-bit too. I changed it to 16-bit to see what happened and it made the banding 10 times worse.
An example of the problem
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject:
It's supposed to be a smooth gradient. I didn't use the gradient tool, I used the brush tool with solid white and then smudged and blurred it like I always do.
That's a good point, and actually I did start it as an 8-bit originally (my photoshop has been starting as 8-bit, grayscale for a few weeks now and I don't know why) but then after I remembered and changed it to 16-bit, and noticed the banding, I closed that document and started a new one and changed it to 16-bit RGB when the pop-up for a new document came up.
The resolution is always 72pixels/inch, and the size 256x512, colour mode RGB.
In advanced it says colour profile Working RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1 which I have no clue what means, and I never usually click advanced so I don't know if that is usually that or different.
When I use the brush tool and blur and smudge it it's fine, with no banding. It's only when I lower the opacity of that layer, or use Hue/Saturation and Lightness to darken it so it's hardly visible that the banding appears.
I've just tried it again with a fresh new document and it's still the same. Even in 32-bit it's exactly the same.
It's done it before, and all I did was close and reopen Photoshop and it was all fine again, but this time it happened last night and since then I have restarted my computer, had it turned off for hours, and I've even tried it on gimp and it's the same.
Ruled out that it's my monitor, tried a different one that I know works perfectly and it's still the same.
I've double checked all drivers, and monitor profiles, and drivers for my monitor, and colour profiles, and colour management, my graphics card settings, device manager for problems with any hardware, and everythings coming back fine. Could it be that my graphics card is old and just needs replacing? I'm not good with which one to buy so would getting a new one the same be of any help? The computer is about 6 years old, and the only thing changed on it is the RAM and hard drive.
I don't really want to end up not using this computer anymore if it's a simple graphics card issue, I just don't know how to tell if it is.
The thread that is from is here if you want to see some suggestions I've already had.http://www.imvu.com/catalog/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpbb2&file=viewtopic.php&t=423942 &postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
My username is 'Ao' on there so that is me explaining the problem.
To add to that...
Here is another example of what is happening.
I'm thinking from all the answers I got from google its a graphics card problem. Only problem is all the updates are installed, and I can't find anywhere that sells my graphics card to buy a new one. So I need to know which graphics card will work with my system right now?
I've done some tests so you can see my system details. Im clueless with which one to buy so please help.
Here is the first system information....
Operating System new – server roles
System Model
Windows Vista Home Basic Service Pack 2 (build 6002)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United Kingdom)
Installed: 03/09/2011 15:55:03
GATEWAY E4214 200
System Serial Number: GCC7320001757
Processor a
Main Circuit Board b
3.45 gigahertz Intel Celeron D
16 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Not hyper-threaded
Board: Intel Corporation D945GCCRG1 AAD86518-300
Serial Number: BTCR70500NBP
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: Intel Corp. CR94510J.15A.1015.2007.0712.1513 07/12/2007
new USB Storage Use in past 30 Days (mouse over last used for details)
new Hosted Virtual Machines (mouse over name for details)
Generic USB CF Reader -- drive 2, s/n 920321111113, rev 1.01
05/05/2012 04:09:52
Generic USB MS Reader -- drive 4, s/n 920321111113, rev 1.03
05/05/2012 04:09:52
Generic USB SD Reader -- drive 1, s/n 920321111113, rev 1.00
05/05/2012 04:09:52
Generic USB SM Reader -- drive 3, s/n 920321111113, rev 1.02
05/05/2012 04:09:52
HTC Android Phone, s/n HT1BMTR06733, rev 0100
21/04/2012 15:55:20*
HTC Android Phone, rev 0100
21/04/2012 15:48:53*
USB Mass Storage Device, s/n 812520090519
21/04/2012 04:23:16*
* Possibly used again before the reboot following this time.
None discovered
Drives new – drive encryption
Memory Modules c,d
120.03 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
32.04 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
ATAPI DVD W DH16W1P ATA Device [Optical drive]
Generic USB CF Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2
Generic USB MS Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4
Generic USB SD Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 1
Generic USB SM Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3
WDC WD1200JS-00NCB1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB) -- drive 0, s/n WD-WCANP1131697, rev 10.02E02, SMART Status: Healthy
2038 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
Slot 'J6H1' has 1024 MB (serial number 0x683839C5)
Slot 'J6J1' has 1024 MB (serial number 0x6A397A46)
Local Drive Volumes new – volume encryption
c: (NTFS on drive 0)
120.03 GB
32.04 GB free
Network Drives
None discovered
Users (mouse over user name for details)
Printers
local user accounts
last logon
Adam
05/05/2012 04:13:02
(admin)
Guest
04/05/2012 16:15:14
local system accounts
Administrator
11/04/2009 14:34:46
(admin)
Marks a disabled account; Marks a locked account
Lexmark 3100 Series
on USB001
Microsoft XPS Document Writer
on XPSPort:
Controllers
Display
ATA Channel 0 [Controller] (2x)
ATA Channel 1 [Controller]
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF
Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0
Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family [Display adapter]
LG L1917S [Monitor] (17.1"vis, s/n 11083, January 2006)
Bus Adapters
Multimedia
Microsoft iSCSI Initiator
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
Realtek High Definition Audio
Virus Protection [Back to Top]
Group Policies
AVG Internet Security 2011
None discovered
And here is my DxDiag...
System Information
Time of this report: 5/4/2012, 20:45:35
Machine name: ADAM-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.111025-0338)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: GATEWAY
System Model: E4214
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.46GHz, ~3.5GHz
Memory: 2036MB RAM
Page File: 1829MB used, 2487MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Notes
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
DirectX Debug Levels
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
Display Devices
Card name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_02
Display Memory: 256 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 256 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
Driver Version: 7.14.0010.1437 (English)
DDI Version: 9Ex
BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/11/2008 19:36:08, 3301376 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-6432-11CF-5676-0B52A3C2CA35}
Vendor ID: 0x8086
Device ID: 0x2772
SubSys ID: 0x7201107B
Revision ID: 0x0002
Revision ID: 0x0002
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
Sound Devices
Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0883&SUBSYS_107B7201&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6526 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 12/13/2011 19:27:30, 3921448 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Sound Capture Devices
Description: Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6526 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 12/13/2011 19:27:30, 3921448 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF
DirectInput Devices
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Poll w/ Interrupt: No
USB Devices
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x27C8
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 5888 bytes
Gameport Devices
PS/2 Devices
+ Standard PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:49, 35384 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:49, 35384 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x15D9, 0x0A4D
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 15872 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 34360 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/11/2009 14:18:05, 53224 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 19968 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 34360 bytes
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
Drive: C:
Free Space: 32.1 GB
Total Space: 114.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD1200JS-00NCB1 ATA Device
Drive: D:
Model: ATAPI DVD W DH16W1P ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 67072 bytes
System Devices
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DF&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&F9
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\intelide.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:21, 17976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 43496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 19944 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 109032 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller - 27DA
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DA&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&FB
Driver: n/a
Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D8&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&D8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 561152 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D6
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D6&SUBSYS_27D68086&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E3
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 149480 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D4
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D4&SUBSYS_27D48086&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E2
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 149480 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D0&SUBSYS_27D08086&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E0
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 149480 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CC&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&EF
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 39936 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hccoin.dll, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 10:46:05, 8704 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CB&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&EB
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CA&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&EA
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C9&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E9
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C8&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C0&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&FA
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\intelide.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:21, 17976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 43496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 19944 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 109032 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Controller - 27B8
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27B8&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&F8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:22, 16440 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_02\3&2ACF1E9&0&10
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\igdkmd32.sys, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 19:36:10, 2302976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igdumd32.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 19:36:08, 3301376 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxs32.vp, 2/11/2008 21:06:46, 32848 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxo32.vp, 2/11/2008 18:35:36, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxc32.vp, 10/19/2006 03:10:57, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hccutils.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:50, 106496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxsrvc.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:14, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxsrvc.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:10, 256536 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxpph.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:34, 204800 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxcpl.cpl, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:24, 122880 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxcfg.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:04, 539160 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxdev.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:44, 204800 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxdo.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:58, 135168 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxtray.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:12, 141848 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxzoom.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:14, 170520 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hkcmd.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:02, 166424 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxress.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:32, 3293184 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxpers.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:08, 133656 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxTMM.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:48:00, 245760 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxext.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:06, 170520 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxexps.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:26, 24576 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\oemdspif.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:38, 69632 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrara.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:14, 159744 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrchs.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:14, 114688 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrcht.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:14, 110592 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrdan.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrdeu.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 192512 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrenu.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:32, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxresp.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrfin.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrfra.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 184320 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrheb.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 155648 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrita.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrjpn.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrkor.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrnld.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrnor.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrplk.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrptb.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrptg.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrrus.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrsky.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrslv.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrsve.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrtha.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 163840 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrcsy.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:14, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrell.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 192512 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrhun.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 184320 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrtrk.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ig4icd32.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 19:01:30, 2420736 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ig4dev32.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 19:01:44, 2174976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxCoIn_v1437.dll, 2/11/2008 19:55:18, 147456 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 945G/GZ/P/PL Processor to I/O Controller - 2770
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2770&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_02\3&2ACF1E9&0&00
Driver: n/a
Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_E1\3&2ACF1E9&0&F0
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 149480 bytes
Name: Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1094&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\4&1535EDCF&0&40F0
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\e100b325.sys, 8.00.0044.0000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 159744 bytes
Name: PCI Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP
Device ID: PCI\VEN_14F1&DEV_2F40&SUBSYS_200014F1&REV_00\4&1535EDCF&0&28F0
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HSX_CNXT.sys, 7.67.0000.0000 (English), 6/20/2007 03:28:22, 660480 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HSXHWBS2.sys, 7.67.0000.0000 (English), 6/20/2007 03:28:38, 267264 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HSX_DPV.sys, 7.67.0000.0000 (English), 6/20/2007 03:29:56, 984064 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\mdmxsdk.sys, 1.00.0002.0012 (English), 6/19/2006 06:26:58, 12672 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HSFProf.cty, 6/30/2007 14:38:38, 143829 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\XAudio.sys, 1.00.0011.0000 (English), 6/29/2007 09:11:02, 8704 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\XAudio.exe, 1.00.0011.0000 (English), 6/29/2007 09:11:16, 386560 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\mdmxsdk.dll, 1.00.0002.0012 (English), 6/19/2006 06:26:50, 94208 bytes
Driver: C:\Program Files\CONEXANT\CNXT_MODEM_PCI_HSF\UIU32m.exe, 4.00.0026.0000 (English), 6/26/2007 03:30:56, 790528 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\UCI32M20.dll, 2.00.0020.0000 (English), 7/13/2007 04:42:40, 217088 bytes
DirectShow Filters
DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
CoreVolume Filter,0x00000000,0,0,,
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
Multiple File Output,0x00200000,2,2,WMM2FILT.dll,
WMT Black Frame Generator,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
WMT Interlacer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,11.00.6001.7000
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.18363
WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6002.18363
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6002.18533
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6001.18000
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.18363
WMT AudioAnalyzer,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
CoreImgSrc,0x00000000,0,0,,
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
Frame Eater,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
CoreMovSrc,0x00000000,0,0,,
Allocator Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6002.18363
Capture ASF Writer,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
Bitmap Generate,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Proxy Sink,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
Proxy Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.00.6001.18000
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
CoreCaption Filter,0x00000000,0,0,,
CoreNullXfrm Filter,0x00000000,0,0,,
WAV Dest,0x00000000,0,0,,
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,,6.06.6002.18533
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,,6.06.6002.18533
WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.6001.18000
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.18363
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.18005
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.18005
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6002.18496
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6002.18363
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.18533
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,,6.06.6002.18533
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.18533
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.18533
AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6001.18000
AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6001.18000
SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6001.18000
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.00.6002.18005
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6002.18496
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.18533
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Logitech Video (I420),0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
VP60® Simple Profile ,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
VP61® Advanced Profile,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Messenger Audio Codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Audio Capture Sources:
Stereo Mix (Realtek High Defini,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Realtek HD Audio Line input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HD Audio Mic input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HD Audio Stereo input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.0Thank you for the reply, you seem to know what you're on about.
When I go to color managment in the first tab, devices, where it says profiles associated with this device it is empty, and 'use my settings for this device' is unticked. It says device at the top and mine says 'Display: Generic Pnp Monitor - Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family'.
I did try to set up my monitor and had the .icc file for it in that list that pops up when I tick use my settings and click add, and I think I did set the profile to be the one for my monitor. I can't remember exactly how I did it and where I get that .icc file from, I've been through so many settings and websites trying to fix this.
It's not like I've recently changed any hardware or anything or my monitor, I was on photoshop one minute and it worked fine, then the next it just didn't. It's so strange because all I was doing at the time was using photoshop and I don't understand how it can go from working fine to all these problems with graphics and the banding. It's so confusing.
I can noticeably see banding on that image. It is still a gradient and smooth to a degree, but there is obvious lines of colour differences, and a harsher line on the outside.
Is that smooth for you? For me there is very obvious banding, especially at the top on the white on black.
I just don't know what else to do. I've tried everything I can think of, and spent hours upon hours on google. I've even tried a system restore to put it back to how it was when it was working perfectly, but it's still the same. I tried it on another monitor, just plug and play, and it was the same. Is there an easy way to install a monitor properly so that it should in theory work perfect? Because you're talking about the monitor profile, but with the second one I tried to test it all I did was plug it in and it was still the same. I've even tried it on my tv, and as I remember I think it was less noticeable, but then again that might be because of my tv settings because my tv is quite dark.
Just clueless as to what else to do now. I don't want to go out and buy a new computer for £100's over this, as I don't really have the funds to do so but I need a computer so the only option would be to sell my new iphone that I only got last week! Which I obviously don't want to do. That's how desperate I am to fix this though. -
Hi,
The printing company for our photo book on Loons, uses roll fed web presses. They have asked for a pdf set to X-1a.
First soft proof was light and washed out. Printer had us increase saturation and contrast. Second proof
all our blue water photos come out more purple then blue.
We currently used srgb jpeg photos embedded in a ms word document. We used acrobat 11 to create the pdf using the request X-1a
setting.
Should we have converted the photos in photoshop to the requested setting first and then embedded them in word?
Thanks for any help.Can you show us screen shots of your X-1 PDF Settings ( i.e., Color )? The reason why I ask is my default Distiller PDF-X1a:2001 Settings use a working space of RGB = sRGB IEC61966-2.1; and CMYK = US Web Coated (SWOP) v2 with the "Color Management Policies: "Convert All Colors to CMYK" ( default ); Rendering Intent ( default is "Preserve" ). Have you discussed these settings with the print service provider? These settings, if they are identical in Acrobat 11, would appear to have the same RGB work space as your original sRGB based pics. I sense that Word, although not a color managed application, would work as an image carrier into Acrobat 11 where the image files may retain their profiles going into Acrobat 11 and remain intact going out of Acrobat 11 via a PDF-X1a. In which case, the print service provider then RIP and Prints the file for a hardcopy proof. In your case, the previous digital printer did a good job reproducing the photos as you supplied them, Word or no Word. The question now becomes what changed with this new service provider? Their prepress people must of accepted your documents and pushed them through their workflow. So, what changed? I know of no way to "swap" images using Acrobat. In your case, it may be a matter of saving a second set of files or the entire book document as a copy and replacing the pics in that file, then create a second PDF-X1a file. And, as a third option, use InDesign ( however, no point in using it until you've determined where the problem with quality lies ). If I assume the printer told you that the sRGB files were sufficient and, if you used the X-1 PDF Settings when Saving As > PDF, that would be their preferred workflow and the image files rendered dull and unsaturated ( as they did in your case ), and the printer recommended you increase the saturation and HUE of the images ( which he did ) and the entire workflow worked for a digital printer in the past ( which it did ), then something changed with this new print service provider. You have to find out from them what it could be. It could be something with their direct-to-plate equipment. I believe it merits further research and development with the new service provider. There is a solution. You just have to find it.
"Once the pdf is created could I swap out the photos
for ones that had been converted from RGB to CMYK in photoshop with Rendering Intent and Black Point Compensation etc. filled. "...
Wait a minute. You did a RGB-to-CMYK conversion in Photoshop? Why? I thought you embedded the RGB files in Word? Then, Acrobat did the conversion using the X-1 settings mentioned above.
"How hard would it be to dump my word document into InDesign with the newly created RGB or CMYK photos would it work better? Is the learning curve too much of a hassle for one off?"...
Yes it would. But, your procedures worked for the digital printer. Why not now with the new printer? That's my question. Since Acrobat's X-1 settings have a work space of sRGB ( assumed ), then your sRGB files should render appropriately and they do not. You have to find out what works for this new print service provider and, whatever Photoshop Color Setting RGB workspace you use, use it in Acrobat 11. Discuss the entire document and Photoshop setups with the new print service provider. -
How to set up a csf file in Bridge from my printer-supplied icc?
We are a small magazine sending PDF files to a printer out of state (printing on a heat-set web press with a newish stocatto system). We are PC using CS2.
We have gotten inconsistent color from our printer using Adobe recommended color settings in CS2, and so our printer has just supplied us with their icc profile. I have loaded it in all apps but do not know how to load it into Bridge so that Bridge says all is synchronized. I have asked our printer for a csf file but they do not have one or know what I am talking about.
Do you have any suggestions? Can I make my own csf file using the new icc profile?Dorinda,
the best place for defining color setting files is IMO
Photoshop by Edit > Color Settings.
Examples:
RGB: sRGB or AdobeRGB(1998) (may be called aRGB).
CMYK: SWOP or ISOCoated or the profile as supplied by
your printer.
Grayscale: Dot Gain 20% (for Coated) or for instance
Black Ink ISO Coated, which is derived from ISOCoated.
Never a 'Gamma'.
Spot: widely uncertain, use Dot Gain 20% or Black Ink
ISO Coated.
The settings can be saved in Photoshop by an understan-
dable filename, for instance by:
aRGB-ISO-20-20.csf
In Bridge simply load this file for synchronisation,
especially if local settings in Photoshop, InDesign or
Illustrator were changed.
For Acrobat I would rely more on actual local settings.
For instance, a document's output rendering intent can
override working spaces.
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann -
What is a Profile Mismatch and why does it always show up?
b Question
Every time I open a file I get a prompt which reads: Embedded Profile Mismatch.
Embedded: Camera RGB Profile
Working: Adobe RGB (1998)
I always choose the default, which is the "embedded profile (instead of working space).
I have no idea what any of this means. I know that it started doing this after I chose something recommended in a Photoshop book.
Can someone please show me how to get rid of this prompt and point me in the direction of information that will help me choose the best profile?
b Answer supplied by Richard Rose
First the good news - your work flow is Color Managed.
Now the bad news - You have no idea what that means, nor how you are achieving that desirable situation.
You really need to start at the beginning and learn what color management is all about. For some reason lots of people get very confused and mislead trying to wrap their brains around the subject. It's really quite simple.
There are many named "color spaces" in which to work in Photoshop. you have chosen Adobe RGB (1998). You chose that color space in Photoshop CS under "Color Settings."
That's a good "general purpose" color space to use. It's very useful for workers preparing images intended for color reproduction in print (on a printing press). But it'll do for almost any use you have for your images. If your images are destined mostly for the Web, working in sRGB might be good. (I recommend just staying in Adobe RGB 1998)
The "short answer" as to why Photoshop needs to work in some particular "color space" is that the program must "translate" colors from their source (a digital camera, a scanner, a a graphics program) into a destination (display on a computer monitor screen, a particular printer, output for printing press reproduction, etc).
There are many compromises that take place in that translation process, and the requirements for all the possible conditions that must be satisfied (hue, saturation, how light or dark the image appears) cannot always be met. Something has to give somewhere.
Named color spaces (Adobe RGB, sRGB, Color Match RGB, Ekta Space, etc) make a number of assumptions and decisions about how color translations (conversions) should be carried out before Photoshop ever gets its hands on the image, and makes it much easier for Photoshop to carry out the conversions and maintain accuracy in converting (for instance) from a digital camera's idea of an image to the needs of your computer monitor (so you can see an accurate resemblance of the image) to the needs of a printing press, so that the image looks correct in a magazine.
The conversion process is carried out with the aid of "profiles." A profile is a set of data that is embedded in an image file that describes to any program that wants to read it, what the image data means in terms of color.
Without the profile, your digital camera's RGB file simply contains arbitrary RGB values. Yes, a particular pixel with high R values will be reddish, and another pixel with high B values will be blue, but the actual red or blue of those pixels as they relate to the original scene is unknown. The camera profile embedded in your file lets Photoshop know, to a high level of accuracy, just what hue of red, and just how much saturation is present, and how light or dark the red was in the scene. The profile's coding of this information is based on a color measurement system called CIE which uses several different mathematical models to carry out some VERY complicated computations. There are CIE Lab models, CIE XYZ, and others. These models are as close to an "absolute" color reference system as we have.
Thank God you are using camera files that actually have profiles! When you open such a file, Photoshop is "warning" you that the image information is in a color space other than the default Adobe RGB space. You told Photoshop to warn you about such "mismatch" when you set Color Management Policies in the Color Settings section.
Photoshop is telling you that "something" needs to be done. It can honor the camera's color space, from it's own frame of reference (Adobe RGB 1998) and work on the image, accurately handling the color information for screen display and eventual output. That's what you tell it to do when you "accept" the embedded profile. That's not bad, everything will work correctly, because Photoshop will have made internal conversions that remain active as long as the file is open, but there is something you have to keep in mind - when you save the file, Photoshop will save the original camera profile with it. Then if you open the file again, the same "warning" will occur.
That camera profile is as valid and useful as any other profile, but because it is not a commonly recognized color space may cause a problem in some other workflow. (Notice I said MAY. ICC color profiles SHOULD be ok in any program)
It is probably better to choose "Convert to working profile" on opening the file. From that point on, nothing will appear different to you, because nothing has really changed. Photoshop will handle the file as it did before, internally converting the color information as necessary with regard to its working space. But when you save the file, the Adobe RGB 1998 profile will be embedded in it. If you re-open it, you will get no mismatch warning, and the file will be recognized by most other image handling programs as having a "standard" color space.Thanks! I still don't understand the concept of "saving power" in this context. Does that relate to a laptop running on battery, and some popups consume more battery power? Or does this refer to CPU capacity? I have never had any issue that I know of in these areas. I would understand the warning if it cautioned me about insufficient bandwidth, but that doesn't seem to apply here. In any case, am glad to find that this is a feature and not a bug.
Stan
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