Right Granularity of Enterprise Services in order to be used in User Interf

Hello,
i would like to create an aplication based on roadmap component (webdynpro) that uses SAP enterprise services.
After every step i will issue errors if data is wrong.
For ES there are operations (ex. Check Sales Order Creation ). What is if this check deliver error, that fields are not filled althou the fiels are intentend to be entered in next steps.
What does it mean:
Must i redisign my application so that it is sutable to service granularity?
If the customer say "no, the application is fine". Am i forced to implement the same checks in user interface although they will be executed via enterprise service after all steps are processed - not nice soluton.
Does it mean that enterprise service must have many small operations as check to check all my cases, or maybe big check operation must be in some way configurable to ignore some not relavant at current stage checks - a list of fields to check can be provided or ES can deliver all error messages and frontend can delete not relevant.
What is your expirence with Enterprise Services by using them in UI?
thanks
Best regards.
Paul

Hi Paul,
Probably I didn't understood your question correctly but if my understanding is correct then either by check you mean either you are validating user input or you are checking if operation is performed correctly?
In first case ES are not particularly helpful (however few ES available to validate data against valid data) and you must handle this on UI level.
In second case ES are designed in such way that they perform "whole" business operation which might contain vairous technical operation, this is required to ensure integrity of data. Usually all ES return log or fault message which contain useful information about error etc which can be handled on frontend side. this is again to give flexibility to application developer to propagate proper user friendly message or trigger error handling procedure.
Difference between business service is that every ES can be mapped to meaningful business activity or operation and this particular ES execute multiple technical services in single LUW to ensure transactional consistency.
Please let me know if my understanding is correct or above answer is helpful.
Regards,
Gourav

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