RMAN cold backup without shuting down R12 application services?

Hi,
Due to some reasons I can't shutdown appstier bcz every time I have to regenrate JAR files.I want to take RMAN cold database backup with stopping all services or I want to shutdown only concurrent manager(adcmctl stop) and apps listener(adalnctl.sh stop).Please comment if this is workable.
Thanks
M Latif

Hi Latif;
Due to some reasons I can't shutdown appstier bcz every time I have to regenrate JAR files.I want to take RMAN cold database backup with stopping all services or I want to shutdown only concurrent manager(adcmctl stop) and apps listener(adalnctl.sh stop).Please comment if this is workable.Why tou are generate Jar files? What is your reason? RMAN=hotbackup means you dont need to shutdown db or apps. For our client we never close appstier while we are taking RMAN backup
Regard
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Kindly revert at the earliest.
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Fahim.

Hi,
Database and listener are up and running...
Exact error message : Invalid Application Username, Password Or Database "Username:APPLSYSPUB"
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Hi. everyone.
Is it possible to take a full backup without shutting down an instance?
The db version is 10gr2.
As far as I know, in order to take a full backup of a database,
one need to shutdown a database.
Our db environment is a RAC environment which has two nodes.
Yesterday, I heard from a hardware vendor that we do not need to shutdown
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Hi,
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For more information see if these links below can help you:
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Would I have to specify a time or SCN or would I have SCN gap issues in the recovery of the source database? TTo do an incomplete recovery with RMAN requires to specify a date/time or SCN or log sequence because by default RMAN will try to do complete recovery: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/backup.102/b14194/rcmsynta065.htm#RCMRF160
Edited by: P. Forstmann on 25 janv. 2010 18:32
Edited by: P. Forstmann on 25 janv. 2010 18:34

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user3266490 wrote:
Hi,
I confused about rman cold backup in no catalog mode while restore the backup.please anyone clarify it.
1,I am not confused about user manged cold backup.I took the backup (spfile,control file,redo file,datafile,password file.)Is it right one?
Yes,you are right,but first need SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE;
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I took the cold backup of the database using rman ( Database name TEST)
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im using oracle 10.2.0 , i'm migrating database to SAN, how can i restore cold backup with noresetlogs.

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