Route Reflectors Design issue

Hi,
I am having this design issue with route reflectors and could use some help.
I have 18 routers fully meshed in an MP-iBGP session and i am going to introduce route reflectors into the network to minimize the total number of TCP sessions
My problem is that some of these routers have outboud policies with one another. for example i have a route map on router 1 affecting only router 2 and would like to keep it this way
is there any way to do that through route reflectors ?
Thank you
Hadi

Hi Riccardo,
I have 18 routers in a full MP-iBGP mesh topology. Some pairs of these routers have the following policy :
I have a route-map matching on Route Targets and i am setting the next hop to be different from the rest of the RT for that site.
This way, the prefixes originating from site A for example will reach site B with different next hops depending on how i set it in my route-map.
These policies are only between pairs of routers i.e. router#1 needs only to affect router#2
How can i achieve this using RRs
Thank you
Hadi

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RRc1#sh ip bgp
BGP table version is 53, local router ID is 172.16.1.1
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,
              r RIB-failure, S Stale, m multipath, b backup-path, f RT-Filter,
              x best-external, a additional-path, c RIB-compressed,
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
RPKI validation codes: V valid, I invalid, N Not found
     Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
*>i 1.1.1.0/24       10.1.25.5                0    100      0 100 i
*>i 10.1.12.0/24     10.1.26.2                0    100      0 i
*>i 10.1.13.0/24     10.1.12.1                0    100      0 i
*>i 10.1.14.0/24     10.1.12.1                0    100      0 i
*>i 10.1.15.0/24     10.1.12.1                0    100      0 i
*>i 10.1.25.0/24     10.1.26.2                0    100      0 i
* i 10.1.26.0/24     10.1.26.2                0    100      0 i
*>                   0.0.0.0                  0         32768 i
*> 172.16.1.0/24    0.0.0.0                  0         32768 i
*>i 172.16.2.0/24    10.1.12.1                0    100      0 i
*>i 172.16.3.0/24    10.1.12.1                0    100      0 i
RRc1#
RRc1#ping 172.16.2.1 so lo0
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 172.16.2.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
Packet sent with a source address of 172.16.1.1
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)
RRc1#
RRc2#sh ip bgp
BGP table version is 31, local router ID is 172.16.2.1
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,
              r RIB-failure, S Stale, m multipath, b backup-path, f RT-Filter,
              x best-external, a additional-path, c RIB-compressed,
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
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*>i 1.1.1.0/24       10.1.15.5                0    100      0 100 i
* i 10.1.12.0/24     10.1.12.2                0    100      0 i
* i 10.1.13.0/24     10.1.13.1                0    100      0 i
*>                   0.0.0.0                  0         32768 i
*>i 10.1.14.0/24     10.1.13.1                0    100      0 i
*>i 10.1.15.0/24     10.1.13.1                0    100      0 i
* i 10.1.25.0/24     10.1.12.2                0    100      0 i
* i 10.1.26.0/24     10.1.12.2                0    100      0 i
* i 172.16.1.0/24    10.1.12.2                0    100      0 i
*> 172.16.2.0/24    0.0.0.0                  0         32768 i
*>i 172.16.3.0/24    10.1.14.4                0    100      0 i
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SmileyISP#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 988 bytes
version 15.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
hostname SmileyISP
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
no aaa new-model
ip cef
no ipv6 cef
multilink bundle-name authenticated
interface Loopback0
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
shutdown
duplex half
interface FastEthernet1/0
ip address 10.1.15.5 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet1/1
ip address 10.1.25.5 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
router bgp 100
bgp log-neighbor-changes
network 1.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0
network 10.1.15.0 mask 255.255.255.0
neighbor 10.1.15.1 remote-as 200
neighbor 10.1.25.2 remote-as 200
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
control-plane
line con 0
logging synchronous
transport preferred none
stopbits 1
line aux 0
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
login
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RRS1#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 1594 bytes
! Last configuration change at 19:24:34 UTC Sat Feb 7 2015
version 15.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
hostname RRS1
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
no aaa new-model
ip cef
no ipv6 cef
multilink bundle-name authenticated
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
shutdown
duplex half
interface FastEthernet1/0
ip address 10.1.15.1 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet1/1
ip address 10.1.12.1 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet2/0
ip address 10.1.13.1 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet2/1
ip address 10.1.14.1 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
router bgp 200
bgp log-neighbor-changes
network 10.1.13.0 mask 255.255.255.0
network 10.1.14.0 mask 255.255.255.0
network 10.1.15.0 mask 255.255.255.0
neighbor RouteReflectors peer-group
neighbor RouteReflectors remote-as 200
neighbor RouteReflectors route-map NEXTHOP out
neighbor RRClients peer-group
neighbor RRClients remote-as 200
neighbor RRClients route-reflector-client
neighbor 10.1.12.2 peer-group RouteReflectors
neighbor 10.1.13.3 peer-group RRClients
neighbor 10.1.14.4 peer-group RRClients
neighbor 10.1.15.5 remote-as 100
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
route-map NEXTHOP permit 10
set ip next-hop peer-address
control-plane
line con 0
logging synchronous
transport preferred none
stopbits 1
line aux 0
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
login
end
RRS2#sh ru
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 1542 bytes
! Last configuration change at 19:42:06 UTC Sat Feb 7 2015
version 15.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
hostname RRS2
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
no aaa new-model
ip cef
no ipv6 cef
multilink bundle-name authenticated
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
shutdown
duplex half
interface FastEthernet1/0
ip address 10.1.12.2 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet1/1
ip address 10.1.25.2 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet2/0
ip address 10.1.26.2 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet2/1
no ip address
shutdown
speed auto
duplex auto
router bgp 200
bgp log-neighbor-changes
network 10.1.12.0 mask 255.255.255.0
network 10.1.25.0 mask 255.255.255.0
network 10.1.26.0 mask 255.255.255.0
neighbor RouteReflectors peer-group
neighbor RouteReflectors remote-as 200
neighbor RouteReflectors route-map NEXTHOP out
neighbor RRClients peer-group
neighbor RRClients remote-as 200
neighbor RRClients route-reflector-client
neighbor 10.1.12.1 peer-group RouteReflectors
neighbor 10.1.25.5 remote-as 100
neighbor 10.1.26.6 peer-group RRClients
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
route-map NEXTHOP permit 10
set ip next-hop peer-address
control-plane
line con 0
logging synchronous
transport preferred none
stopbits 1
line aux 0
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
login
end
RRc1#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 1005 bytes
! Last configuration change at 18:43:57 UTC Sat Feb 7 2015
version 15.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
hostname RRc1
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
no aaa new-model
ip cef
no ipv6 cef
multilink bundle-name authenticated
interface Loopback0
ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
shutdown
duplex half
interface FastEthernet1/0
ip address 10.1.26.6 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet1/1
no ip address
shutdown
speed auto
duplex auto
router bgp 200
bgp log-neighbor-changes
network 10.1.26.0 mask 255.255.255.0
network 172.16.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0
neighbor 10.1.26.2 remote-as 200
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
control-plane
line con 0
logging synchronous
transport preferred none
stopbits 1
line aux 0
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
login
end
RRc2#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 1005 bytes
! Last configuration change at 18:45:05 UTC Sat Feb 7 2015
version 15.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
hostname RRc2
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
no aaa new-model
ip cef
no ipv6 cef
multilink bundle-name authenticated
interface Loopback0
ip address 172.16.2.1 255.255.255.0
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
shutdown
duplex half
interface FastEthernet1/0
ip address 10.1.13.3 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet1/1
no ip address
shutdown
speed auto
duplex auto
router bgp 200
bgp log-neighbor-changes
network 10.1.13.0 mask 255.255.255.0
network 172.16.2.0 mask 255.255.255.0
neighbor 10.1.13.1 remote-as 200
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
control-plane
line con 0
logging synchronous
transport preferred none
stopbits 1
line aux 0
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
login
end
RRc3#wr term
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 1005 bytes
! Last configuration change at 18:31:12 UTC Sat Feb 7 2015
version 15.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
hostname RRc3
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
no aaa new-model
ip cef
no ipv6 cef
multilink bundle-name authenticated
interface Loopback0
ip address 172.16.3.1 255.255.255.0
interface FastEthernet0/0
no ip address
shutdown
duplex half
interface FastEthernet1/0
ip address 10.1.14.4 255.255.255.0
speed auto
duplex auto
interface FastEthernet1/1
no ip address
shutdown
speed auto
duplex auto
router bgp 200
bgp log-neighbor-changes
network 10.1.14.0 mask 255.255.255.0
network 172.16.3.0 mask 255.255.255.0
neighbor 10.1.14.1 remote-as 200
ip forward-protocol nd
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
control-plane
line con 0
logging synchronous
transport preferred none
stopbits 1
line aux 0
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
login
end
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[127.0.0.1:7202]
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BD,
Ahh...
OK. In the original article, the author states that the final piece with the route map
NEXTHOP was supposed to fix the reachability issue. Obviously it doesn't.
After reading your last post, I looked more carefully at the output from 'sh ip bgp'
on each of the client routers and I realized that several of the next hop addresses were
wrong for some of the prefixes.
1) I completely removed the 'neighbor RouteReflectors route-map NEXTHOP out'
from both RR's. Then I ran 'sh ip bgp' on the clients and noted a change in the next hop addresses. Still wrong, but it changed.
2) I then tried next-hop-self from the RR's to the clients, but it did not change from where
it was after I completed step 1. I am not sure why there was no change. (actually, see the very end of this post)
3) I then applied my version of the route map: route-map NEXTHOP permit 10
                                                                             set ip next-hop peer-address
to the RR's with this: neighbor RRClients route-map NEXTHOP out
That fixed it. All three clients have as their next hop for all prefixes their respective
RR's (which is what they should have for this topology).
I have full connectivity everywhere, even loopback to loopback between all clients.
1) THANK YOU for pointing me in the right direction.
2) If I may ask, why did next hop self fail? More specifically, I saw no change at all
in the next hop for the advertised prefixes. Is it because next-hop-self should be used
for eBGP peers and all of the RR's and clients are all within the same AS?

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Hi
I have a Network with about 14 PE's and totally 800 vpnv4 Prefixes.
I thought about a design with redundant 7200 as Route Reflectors.
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Hello Patrick,
As you know that Route Reflectors as a concept is applicable for networks having heavy IBGP mesh, and also involves quite a burden on the processor.
Coming back to your question !!! Yes a couple of 6500 with SUP 720 can be used, you can try this new IOS release 12.2(17b)SXA.
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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/prod_bulletin09186a00801df1dd.html
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Design issue with the multiprovider

Design issue with the multiprovider :
I have the following problem when using my multiprovider.
The data flow is like this. I have the info-objects IobjectA, IobjectB, IobjectCin my Cube.(Source for this data is s-systemA)
And from another s-system I am also loading the masterdata for IobjectA
Now I have created the multiprovider based on the cube and IobjectA.
However, surprisingly join in not workign in multiprovider correctly.
Scenario :
Record from the Cube.
IObjectA= 1AAA
IObjectB = 2BBB
IObjectC = 3CCC
Records from IobjectA =1AAA.
I expect the record should be like this :
IObjectA : IObjectB: IObjectC
1AAA       :2BBB       :3CCC
However, I am getting the record like this:
IObjectA : IObjectB: IObjectC
1AAA       :2BBB       :3CCC
1AAA         : #             :#
In the Identification section I have selected both the entries for IobjectA still I am getting this error.
My BW Version is 3.0B and the SP is 31.
Thanks in advance for your suggestion.

May be I was not clear enough in my first explanation, Let me try again to explain my scenario:
My Expectation from Multi Provider is :
IObjectA
1AAA
(From InfoObject)
Union
IObjectA     IObjectB     IObjectC
1AAA     2BBB     3CCC
(From Cube)
The record in the multiprovider should be :
IObjectA     IObjectB     IObjectC
1AAA     2BBB     3CCC
Because, this is what the Union says .. and the Definition of the multiprovider also says the same thing :
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw30b/helpdata/EN/ad/6b023b6069d22ee10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Do you still think this is how the behaviour of the multiprovider.. if that is the case what would be the purpose of having an infoobject in the multiprovider.
Thank you very much in advance for your responses.
Best Regards.,
Praveen.

Data mart from two DSOs to one - Loosing values - Design issue

Dear BW experts,
I´m dealing with a design issue for which I would really appreciate any help and suggestions.
I will be as briefly as possible, and explain further based on the doubts , questions I received in order to make it easier go through this problem.
I have two standard DSOs (DSO #1 and #2) feeding a third DSO (DSO #3), also standard.
Each transformation DOES NOT include all fields, but only some of them.
One of the source DSO (let´s call it DSO #1) is uploaded with a datasource that allows reverse type of records (Record Mode = 'R'). Therefore some updates on DSO #1 comes with one entry with record mode 'R' and a 2nd entry with record mode = 'N' (new).
Both feeds are delta mode, and not the same entries are updated through each of them, but the entries that are updated can differ (means an specific entry (unique key values) could be update by one of the feeds, but no updates on the 2nd feed for that entry).
Issue we have: When a 'R' and 'N' entries happen in DSO #1 for any entry, that entry is also reversed and re created in the target DSO #3 (even being that not ALL fields are mapped in the transformation), and thefore we loose ALL the values that are exclusively updated through DSO #2, becoming blank.
I don´t know it we are missing something in our design, or how should we fix this issue we have.
Hope I was more or less clear with the description.
´d really appreciatted your feedback.
Thanks!!
Gustavo

Hi Gustavo
Two things I need to know.
1. Do you have any End Routine in your DSO? If yes, what is the setting under "Update behavior of End Routine Display"....Option available right side of Delete Button ater End Rouine.
2. Did you try with Full Load from DSO1 and DSO2 to DSO3? Do you face the same problem?
Regards
Anindya

Design issue with sharing LV2 style global between run-time executables

Hi,
Just when I though that I had everything figured out, I ran into this design issue.
The application that I wrote is pretty much a client-server application where the server publishes data and the client subscribes data using data sockets. Once the client gets all the data in the mainClient.vi program, I use LV2 style (using shift registers) to make the data global to all the other sub-vi’s. So the LV2 is in initialize mode in the mainClient.vi program and then in the sub-vi’s the LV2 is in read mode. Also, I had built the run time menu for each sub-vi that when an item is selected from the menu, I would use the get menu selection to get the item tag which will be the file nam
e of the sub-vi and open the selected sub-vi using vi server. This all worked great on my workstation where I have labVIEW 7.0 Express installed. But the final goal is to make exe’s for each of these sub-vi’s and install runtime on the PC’s that do not have labVIEW installed. Of course when I did that only the mainClient.exe program was getting the updated data from the server but the sub-vi’s were not getting the data from the mainClient.exe. I did realize that the reason for this is due to the fact that I had compiled all the sub-vi’s separately and so the LV2 vi is now local to each executable (i.e. all executables have their own memory location). Also, the run-time menu did not work because now I am trying to open an executable using vi server properties.
To summarize, is there a way to share LV2 style global's between executables without compiling all of the sub-vi’s at one time? I tried using data-sockets (local-host) instead of LV2 st
yle gloabls to communicate between the sub-vi’s but I ran into performance issues due to the large volume of data.
I would really appreciate it if anyone can suggest a solution/alternative to this problem.
Thanks
Nish

> 1) How would I create a wrap-around for the LV2.vi which is
> initialized in my mainClient.vi and then how would I use vi server in
> my sub-vi to refer to that LV2.vi?
> You mentioned that each sub-vi when opened will first connect to the
> LV2.vi via via-server and will keep the connection in the shift
> register of that sub-vi. Does this mean that the sub-vi is accessing
> (pass-by-reference) the shared memory of the mainClient.vi? If this
> is what you meant I think that this might work for my application.
>
If the LV2 global is loaded statically into your mainClient.vi, then any
other application can connect to the exe and get a reference to the VI
using the VI name. This gives you a VI reference you can use to call
the VI. Ye
s, the values will be copied between applications. That is
why you need to add access operations to the global that returns just
the info needed. If you need the average, do that in the global. If
you need the array size, do that in the global. Returning the entire
array shouldn't be a common operation on the LV2 style global anyway.
> 2) Just to elaborate on my application, the data is
> transferred via DataSockets from the mainServer.vi on another PC to
> the client’s PC where the mainClient.vi program subscribes the
> data (i.e. 5 arrays of double type and each arrays has about 50,000
> elements). The sub-vi’s will have to access these arrays
> located on the mainClient.vi every scan. Is there any limitation on
> referencing the mainClient.vi data via vi-server from each sub-vi?
Your app does need to watch both the amount of data being passed across
the network, and the amount being shared between the apps. You might
want to consider puttin
g the VIs back into the main app. What is the
reason you are breaking them apart for?
Greg McKaskle

A web service design issue with patterns

Hello,
I�d like to ask for your help in the following design issue:
I need to create an email sending web service (with Axis). Only just one method which returns with an integer return code. This handles the following:
- based on the given parameters gets the email addresses from an
LDAP server (with netscape ldap for java)
-     makes a cache from them (only after a timeout period will be the cache
refreshed) (don�t know what tool to use for this)
-     selects html templates which to be sent based on the given parameters
-     sends emails with the appropriate templates (with Velocity)
-     the whole process is logged (with log4j)
I have to write the code as generic as possible. I know that some design pattern should be used for this. (some from GoF , and I know there exists design patterns specially created for web services as well).
Could you enumerate me which patterns (and for what part of the program) would be the best choice to solve this problem? I have read through some books about patterns, but don�t have the knowledge to pick up the right one for a concrete problem like this..
Thank you in advance,
nagybaly

Hello,
I�d like to ask for your help in the following design
issue:
I need to create an email sending web service (with
Axis). Only just one method which returns with an
integer return code. This handles the following:Lots of responsibilities here. You would do well to break this up into several classes that you can test separately.
I would also advise that you not embed all this in a servlet. Make a service that collaborates with several objects to accomplish the task and let the serlvet just call it.
.> - based on the given parameters gets the email
addresses from an
LDAP server (with netscape ldap for java)I'd recommend Spring's LDAP module. Pretty terrific stuff.
cache from them (only after a timeout period will be
the cache
refreshed) (don�t know what tool to use for
this)Maybe EhCache or OsCache or something like that.
-     selects html templates which to be sent based on
the given parametersWhere does this come from? Certainly not the LDAP. A relational database? Write a DAO for the document template.
-     sends emails with the appropriate templates (with
Velocity)Have an e-mail sender service using Java Mail.
-     the whole process is logged (with log4j)Easily done.
I have to write the code as generic as possible. I
know that some design pattern should be used for
this. No pattern. There might be patterns, if you say that the DAOs to access the LDAP and RDB are patterns.
Stop thinking patterns and start thinking objects.
(some from GoF , and I know there exists design
patterns specially created for web services as
well).Nope.
Could you enumerate me which patterns (and for what
part of the program) would be the best choice to
solve this problem? I have read through some books
about patterns, but don�t have the knowledge to pick
up the right one for a concrete problem like this..
Thank you in advance,
nagybalyYou haven't read them because they aren't there. Your problem is pretty specific, even if it's common.
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I have a WRT54G wireless router. The issue I have is th...

I have a WRT54G wireless router.
The issue I have is that the "wireless network connection" icon light on my laptop stays on continuously and is constantly sending and receiving data even when nothing is open...no Outlook, no browser, no programs.
I have another another desktop PC that is connected thru the same wireless router and the icon light only lights when I open a browser or transmit and receive data thru an action of mine.
With my laptop, as soon as I boot it up, the icon light comes on and stays on with all this data sending and receiving.
Does anyone have any ideas?

You can try to see what connections are active when your laptop is connected. If you're using Windows, bring up command prompt, type "netsat" and see what connections are active to what target(s). Check Task Manager and see what applications or processes are active and using the cpu. Maybe try installing a third-party firewall (ZoneAlarm) that monitors inbound and outbound connections to determine if any rogue applications are running.
"Everybody save your work.......NOW!!"

SOA Design issues and other politics

Hi all,
I have a requirement for live data feed from external system. I am using SOA11g and JDeveloper 11g. There are two designs, one proposed and other I have in mind to achieve this.
1) The external system sends XML data in a push model to the exposed SOA Web Service (uses one-way messaging mode) at my end. I then store the message in the database
a) In this design how do we keep track of all messages that are sent are received. Is there a better solution.
2) The third party is proposing a Web Service at their end. The application being real-time (i.e any changes at their DB end i.e some DB tables, should be propogated across to our web services using XML messages). I will have to keep sending XML requests on a regular basis (say every 5 seconds). Can I achieve such type of Web Service client using SOA 11g?
a) Here I have a design issue, that the data feed is live, why do the WS client have to keep sending requests at regular intervals. Why can't the third party send data whenever there is an update/insert at their database end. Third party is coming up with advantages like loose coupling and making the Web Service more generic. I doubt all the claims give that the applications are B2B and we are the other ones who will be using their web services for the time being. Their may be other two organizations later on.
b) If the first request is not yet returned, will the second request after 5 seconds be blocked.
This designs and solutions are becoming quite political across organizations, and got to do with who will take the blame for data issues. I just want a proper SOA design for live data feed. Please suggest the advantages and disadvantages of both if anybody has been through this path.
Thanks
Edited by: user5108636 on 1/09/2010 18:19

See if wireless isolation is enabled.
When logged into your WRT1900AC using local access replace the end of the browser URL with:
/dynamic/advanced-wireless.html
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Design Issue: Localization using Lookup OR Dependency Injection

Hello Forums!
I'm having a design issue regarding localization in my application. I'm using Spring Framework (www.springframework.org) as an
application container, which provides DI (dependency injection) - but the issue is not Spring- but rather design related. All localization
logic is encapsulated in a separate class ("I18nManager"), which basically is just a wrapper around multiple Java ResourceBundles.
Right now localization is performed in the "traditional" look-up style, e.g.
ApplicationContext.getMessage("some.message.key");
where ApplicationContext is a wrapper around the Spring application context and getMessage(...) is a static method on that
context. The advantage of that solution is a clean & simple interface design, localization merely becomes a feature of classes, but
is not part of their public API. The only problem with that approach is the very tight coupling of Classes to the ApplicationContext, which
really is a problem when you want to use code outside of an application context. The importance of this problem increases if one considers
that I18N is a concern that can be found in every application layer, from GUI to business to data tier, all those components suddenly depdend
on an application context being present.
My proposed solution to this problem is a "Localizable" interface, which may provide mutators for an "I18NManager" instance that can be
passed in. But is this really a well-designed solution, as almost any object in an application may be required to implement this interface?
I'm too concerned about performance: the look-up solution does not need to pass references to localizable objects, whereas my proposed solution
will require 1 I18NManager reference per localizable object, which might cause troubles if you let's say load 10.000 POJOs from some database that
are all localizable.
So (finally) my question: how do you handle such design issues? Are there any other solutions out there that I'm not aware of yet? Comments/Help welcome!

michael_schmid wrote:
Hello Forums!
I'm having a design issue regarding localization in my application. I'm using Spring Framework (www.springframework.org) as an
application container, which provides DI (dependency injection) - but the issue is not Spring- but rather design related. All localization
logic is encapsulated in a separate class ("I18nManager"), which basically is just a wrapper around multiple Java ResourceBundles.Why do you think you need a wrapper around resource bundles? Spring does very well with I18N, as well as Java does. What improvement do you think you bring?
Right now localization is performed in the "traditional" look-up style, e.g.
ApplicationContext.getMessage("some.message.key");
where ApplicationContext is a wrapper around the Spring application context and getMessage(...) is a static method on that
context. Now you're wrapping the Spring app context? Oh, brother. Sounds mad to me.
The advantage of that solution is a clean & simple interface design, localization merely becomes a feature of classes, but
is not part of their public API. The only problem with that approach is the very tight coupling of Classes to the ApplicationContext, which
really is a problem when you want to use code outside of an application context. The importance of this problem increases if one considers
that I18N is a concern that can be found in every application layer, from GUI to business to data tier, all those components suddenly depdend
on an application context being present.One man's "tight coupling" is another person's dependency.
I agree that overly tight coupling can be a problem, but sometimes a dependency just can't be helped. They aren't all bad. The only class with no dependencies calls no one and is called by no one. We'd call that a big, fat main class. What good is that?
Personally, I would discourage you from wrapping Spring too much. I doubt that you're improving your life. Better to use Spring straight, the way it was intended. I find that they're much better designers than I am.
My proposed solution to this problem is a "Localizable" interface, which may provide mutators for an "I18NManager" instance that can be
passed in. But is this really a well-designed solution, as almost any object in an application may be required to implement this interface?I would say no.
I'm too concerned about performance: the look-up solution does not need to pass references to localizable objects, whereas my proposed solution
will require 1 I18NManager reference per localizable object, which might cause troubles if you let's say load 10.000 POJOs from some database that
are all localizable.
So (finally) my question: how do you handle such design issues? Are there any other solutions out there that I'm not aware of yet? Comments/Help welcome!I would use the features that are built into Spring and Java until I ran into a problem. It seems to me that you're wrapping your way into a problem and making things more complex than they need to be.
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Design Issues, suggestions welcome

I have stumbled across some design issues, with a carhire system i am making.
          kept in
     [CAR]------------------->[GARAGE]
|
                    |
                    | Retives car from garage
|
|
|
                    [TIMESLOT]
As it stands the GARAGE class automatically has CAR objects added as attributes.
import java.util.*;
public class Garage {
     //class attributes
          private LinkedList carhold;
          Car ford_ka = new Car("A",135);
          Car ford_focus = new Car("B",149);
          Car ford_Mondeo = new Car("C",179);
           Car Vauxhall_Vectra = new Car("D",239);
          Car Mercedes_E240 = new Car("H",290);
          Car Renault_Espace = new Car("V",399);
     public Garage() {
          carhold = new LinkedList();
          carhold.add(ford_ka);
          carhold.add(ford_focus);
          carhold.add(ford_Mondeo);
          carhold.add(Vauxhall_Vectra);
          carhold.add(Mercedes_E240);
          carhold.add(Renault_Espace);          The TIMESLOT class has an GARAGE object as an attribute, thus enabling it access mehtods.
import java.util.*;
public class TimeSlot {
       Garage g = new Garage();
public void getCarCost(String input) {
           Car theCar = g.search(input);problem is each time a new TIMESLOT is create so too is a
new garage created with all the cars.
I really need the garage to be a seperate entity, but still allowing
the TIMESLOT class to use its methods.
would in heritence be the appropriate solution, or maybe something else.
I would like to hear other suggestions.

I believe a Singleton pattern works perfectly here. A singleton ensures that only one instance of an object is created. You would use it as follows:
public class Garage {
    private LinkedList carhold;
    // Car declarations here
    private Garage() {
        carhold = new LinkedList();
        // add cars here
    public static Garage getInstance() {
        static Garage instance = null;
        if (instance == null)
            instance = new Garage();
        return instance;
public class TimeSlot {
    public void getCarCost(String input) {
        Garage g = Garage.getInstance();
        // do some other stuff
}Notice the PRIVATE constructor on the Garage class. This keeps classes other than Garage from instantiating it. In fact, the only way to get an instance of Garage is to call Garage.getInstance(), which will always return the same instance.
You might also consider the Builder pattern, which will keep you from having to instantiate all those Car objects inside of your Garage. You would do something like this:
public class Garage {
    LinkedList carhold;
    public Garage() {
        carhold = new LinkedList();
    public void addCar(Car c) {
        carhold.add(c);
public class GarageBuilder {
    public static final int BOBS_GARAGE = 0;
    public static final int BILLS_GARAGE = 1;
    public static Garage buildGarage(int garage) {
        Garage g = new Garage();
        switch (garage) {
            case BOBS_GARAGE:
                Car c = new Car("bobsCar", 200);
                g.add(c);
                break;
            case BILLS_GARAGE:
                Car c = new Car("billsCar", 400);
                g.add(c);
                break;
        return g;
}

Bgp Route reflector

Hello,
i have this bgp topology all router running bgp and no igp is running. Now, the problem is R2 and R3 are route reflector, R1 and R4 are Rclient.
R3 has learn route from R4 (4.4.4.4) from its R client and it advertise to R2 but R2 not advertise (4.4.4.4) route to its client (R1).
R1#sh ip bgp
BGP table version is 5, local router ID is 192.168.12.1
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,
r RIB-failure, S Stale
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path
*> 1.1.1.1/32 0.0.0.0 0 32768 i
*>i2.2.2.2/32 192.168.12.2 0 100 0 i
* i3.3.3.3/32 192.168.23.3 0 100 0 i
R2#sh ip bgp
BGP table version is 8, local router ID is 192.168.12.2
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,
r RIB-failure, S Stale
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path
*>i1.1.1.1/32 192.168.12.1 0 100 0 i
*> 2.2.2.2/32 0.0.0.0 0 32768 i
*>i3.3.3.3/32 192.168.23.3 0 100 0 i
* i4.4.4.4/32 192.168.34.4 0 100 0 i

R3#sh ip bgp
BGP table version is 8, local router ID is 192.168.23.3
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i - internal,
r RIB-failure, S Stale
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path
* i1.1.1.1/32 192.168.12.1 0 100 0 i
*>i2.2.2.2/32 192.168.23.2 0 100 0 i
*> 3.3.3.3/32 0.0.0.0 0 32768 i
*>i4.4.4.4/32 192.168.34.4 0 100 0
R3#sh run | se router bgp
router bgp 1
no synchronization
bgp log-neighbor-changes
network 3.3.3.3 mask 255.255.255.255
neighbor 192.168.23.2 remote-as 1
neighbor 192.168.23.2 next-hop-self
neighbor 192.168.34.4 remote-as 1
neighbor 192.168.34.4 route-reflector-client
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Routed access design to support up to 2500 multicast groups

Hi all,
I'm doing routed access design with following:
- Routing protocol is OSPF.
- 3 layers with: Core/Distribution/Access design.
- Core: Catalyst 6500E Sup 2T.
- Distribution: ME 3800X / Catalyst 4500X.
- Access: ME 3400E.
We enable PIM from Core to Access layer.
At the moment, there are around 1000 multicast group in the network.
Cisco hardware limitation of multicast:
- Cisco ME 3400E can only support up to 1000 IGMP groups and multicast routes.
- Cisco ME 3800X can only support up to 2000 IGMP group and multicast routes with Metro IP Services license.
- Cisco Catalyst 4500X support up to 32K multicast routes.
- Cisco Catalyst 6500E Sup 2T support up to 128K multicast routes.
Requirement:
Design the network to support up to 2500 multicast groups.
So, are there any fine-tune in the design to meet above requirement?
Or I have to change access layer switch to higher model? (ex: 4500E)
Thanks,

hi there
replacing the hardware is one option
but the question here why are you going with routed access layer and in your case you have large Mcast routing table that going to be everywhere !!
have you considered using Cat65k or 45K in the distribution in VSS and use L2 from access to distribution
in this case you need to concern about the distribution routing table size and also VSS simplify the topology and managerially of the network rather than have it with a complicated routing design
routed access is a good and recommend as well for quicker convergence time and no reliance on STP or HSRP/VRRP timers
however it could comlicate the routing design !
while VSS will also eliminate the reliance on HSRP/VRRP and STP with more added simplicity to the topology and design
so you may go with 45K VSS in the distribution and 65K with VSS in the core as well and in the access using L2 uplinks to the distribution and the uplinks everywhere can use multi-chassis etherchannel MEC, for increased network capacity in terms of bandwidth and quicker convergence time in the case of a link failure as well, Plus you will be able to support the desired Mcast routing table in the distribution and Core !!
hope this help

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