SAP DBM: Shop type level profit center

Hi SAP DBM Experts,
At our client there is business process of various shop types within each plant such as small service, large service & Body / paint repair.
There is a requirement to determine the profit center at the level of Shop type level.
As per standard DBM the profit center can be set up at below level:
Plant
Distribution channel
Division
DBM order reason
Material group
Profit center
We are implementing SAP DBM 8.0, please guide whether this can be achieved by any standard configuration.
Regards,
Sachin Balmiki

Hi Sachin,
For DBM the profit center is determined for each internal order created at header level and split level which is passed to accounting document...I am not aware if in DBM 8.0 profit center is determined at item level..if this is the case then it should be from Material master.
what you can suggest is to group the items by internal department for example for bodyshop 2 items, paint - 3item for the same customer and determine the profit center by order type / customer combination.
But structure of DBM CO value flow is such that , i think you need to search for SAP note for profit center at item level ..else you will not be able to use profitability analysis since you end up one profit center at internal order of split billing and actual accounting document with difference profit centers at line item level

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The answer which solved it is :
Projects can be associated with a Business Partner in the Master data definition but not Profit Center.
Profit Center have associated distribution rules and are linked to G/L account or a transaction at the row level.
You could do this. Create a UDF in the BP Master to enter the profit Center information.
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then your Formatted Search on the Marketing document would be
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Set it to Auto Refresh on Item Code ....check Display Saved Values
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Hi Julie,
Thanks for your reply!
We have recently upgraded to 2005B PL43.
Still it has not helped.
Secondly these report are regularly checked by our Sales manager's hence updating using DTW will be a cumbersome affair.
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Hi,
Is it possible to allocate a BP to one or more Profit centers when creating a BP Master in SAP;such that, on creation of a marketing document the Profit center is directly picked up instead of selecting it.
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The answer which solved it is :
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You could do this. Create a UDF in the BP Master to enter the profit Center information.
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Set it to Auto Refresh on Item Code ....check Display Saved Values
If you want 2 Profit Centers on the BP Master and the user would select it in the Marketing document then let us presume your UDF's are U_PC1 and U_PC2,
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Now, since the BP has already been allocated to the profit center anytime a service type credit note is passed which links to a Liability or an "Other" Account type, the profit center still gets allocated.
Can I make any changes to the query such that only Sales or Expenditure account could be allocated to the BP, and any other account if tagged the entry is not tagged with a profit center.
Please advise.
Edited by: Vishal Attal on Oct 14, 2008 12:53 PM
Edited by: Vishal Attal on Oct 14, 2008 12:54 PM

Hi Vishal
Best will be to use the ActType field from OACT to check whether it is an "I" (Income) or "E" (Expenditure) and not an "N" (other) type.
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Let me know if it works
Kind regards
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