Scale base discount from two plants

Dear All,
My client is having scale based discounts
for eg: 1-30(5%)
31-50(7%)
the issue is that in vk 11 they maintained condition records in the plant combination
When in the sales order if the order quantity is 40 it is picking the the correct discount 7%,but all the items are from same plant.
if we ditribute this 50 quanity in two diff plants in the sale order it is only showing 5%.which means this will go to the first scale becoz of 25 qtys onl;y from one plant.
Please help to solve this issue
Regards
cnrnair

if you want it to be based on 2 plants:
Create a condition group.
Each material gets a value determined specifically which can be used collectively.
Read this:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/de/7a8534c960a134e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm

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Can any one tell me for conditions types and scale basis for maintaining condition records
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dear
Scales in nothing but a range of order quantity, according to the pricing element depending upon the range of quantity prices way be increased/decreased, higher discounts, low freight changes can be offered.
Ex: when per one item is 100/- if customer placed the order for
Range          price
100/-
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90/-
Check --value:
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0-10     1000.00
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31-40     997.00
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        siva narayana

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Dear Experts
What is the functionality of scale base check in condition type of Pricing schema. please explain in detail

Hi,
Scale basis .. required for following req.
If Procurement Qty 100 Nos price 10 /- per unit.
if procurement Qty 100-500 nos Price 9 /- per unit.
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Explanation with an example would be highly appreciated.
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PATHIK
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