Scenario - IDoc - XI - RFC - IDoc

Hi Experts,
I am new to BPM.
We have 2 sap systems...SAP1, SAP2.
The BPM scenario is,
When Material changes made in MM02 of SAP1, changepointers creates an IDoc1. IDoc1 is first sent to XI. Now in SAP2, it is to be checked whether that particular changed in SAP1 exists in SAP2 or not. For this, from XI an RFC call is made to SAP2, depending on the return values, the IDoc message that has been reached to XI (from SAP1) is sent to SAP2.
How to achieve this.
Any docs, links would help me. I am very new to BPM.
-Naveen.

Hi,
Can any one give me some direction.
>>>Are you talking about BPM steps ? if so I have given that.
For Message Interfaces-
1) Abs, Async, Message Interface of type Idoc
2) Abs, Sync, Message Interface of type RFC
3) Abs, Async Message Interface of type Idoc , which is sending to SAP2 system. If you have mapping changes.
Mapping is outside the BPM, Create a dummy message type for RFC response. To check the response in the BPM
i.e Idoc to RFC Req Mapping
RFC Response to Dummy RFC response
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Moorthy

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hi,
one simple advice (less then one day) would be to change
>Generally it is an IDOC - > XI -> RFC case.
either to:
Generally it is an IDOC - > XI -> ABAP proxy case.
or if this is not abap proxy enabled receiver system to:
Generally it is an IDOC - > XI -> IDOC case.
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