Scenarios when Guided procedures are mandated/preferred to be used

Hi Everyone
Seeking information on when Guided procedures can be part of the SAP Landscape. It would be helpful to cite some examples or may be some scenarios where GP could fit.
Note : Existing environment involves SAP Netwevaer MDM 5.5 SP06 ,EnterprisePortal,Webdynpro Java using MDM 5.5 SP06 Java API and question which came to my mind is where would GP fit if an external process needs to be part of the current process and how would it achieve better process control w.r.t MDM Workflows vs UWL.
Regards
Navneet

Hi,
A Composite Application consists of mainly following layers:
1. Back end and Business Layer
2. UI Layer
3. Process Layer
4. Portal Layer.
GP is for Process layer.
You can get information for each layer in [this|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/20f7c4ef-b73d-2a10-a2b9-d9833908130c] document.
You can get more information about Composite Applications as wel as about each layer from the following links.
[CE 7.1 Tutorial|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-development?rid=/webcontent/uuid/903c2cdb-98d6-2a10-84b7-ab22535de11a]
[Composition Environment(General)|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-ce?rid=/webcontent/uuid/e0c6b746-61de-2910-e2a0-9991016c17a7]
Sampath
Edited by: Sampath Gunda on Jul 11, 2008 6:06 AM

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We have tried creating an Wdynpro Java app with online adobe form and executed successfuly in NWDS and also in Webdynpro content administrator.
issue:-
When we create a callable object(webdynpro app(gp interface CO)) in GP and test, we were unable to view the form.
Now our question is : what are we mising ?
Is it possible to integrate online interactive adobe form with guided procedures?
Is our approach to solve the scenario right?
any links or tutorials will be greatly appreciated
TIA,

Hi
See the following Link: [http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/8a696cea-0c01-0010-d494-9b0b8ce7565f&overridelayout=true]
Kind Regards
Mukesh

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Hi
We are trying to automate our internal form processes using SAP adobe interactive forms. These forms must be available online and must be routed to the relevant approvers and processors on submission.
Can anyone tell the difference between ISR and Guided Procedures and which one is the best to use.
Regards,
Michael Mayisana

Hi Micheal,
Please check the answers for your queries. I have adding all the info i have.
1. It doesnt exactly mean that the GP are only for Offline Interactive forms., they r for online too. but better suited for CAF appl. For this case we need, we will take the help of CAF GP i.e. Composite appplication framework GP. CAF GP is a framework for modeling and managing workflows using simple and user-friendly tools. As a part of the Composite Application Framework (CAF), GP enables access to multiple backend systems, consistently combining different types of services and applications into processes. In addition, GP supports collaboration, ad-hoc items, and offline task management using interactive forms. It provides role-based access to tools and resources and guidance through the workflows at runtime, thereby helping end users to easily identify and complete their tasks
2. As to my implementation the form cannot be rendered on the front-end without any extra web-dynpro development when using GP. Like ABAP Webdynpro iviews can than be integrated with portal. and hence portal is used as front end.
Pls chk the below link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/e0957cb6-5103-2a10-6d9d-a0a4d68c8bf1
3.Example as such , might be a general MSS/ ESS implementation but check out this blog for such scenario
Guided Procedures explorations: Scenario using Interactive Forms and Visual Composer
Hope this helps you and hope i was clear .
GoodLuck!
Regards,
Shaila

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Hi All,
I have a Webdynpro application in Which Iam creating entries in a Custom Table. I have a view with all the input fields, when the user hits SAVE button after filling the input field Iam saving all those values in my Custom database table.
Now, the requirement is, before I save the values in table some one needs to approve it. Upon approval I have to save that.
Is it possible using Guided Procedures? I just started learning Guided Procedures.I could see that the Webdynpro application can be called from Guided procedure, but I would like to know how my scenario will be achieved.
For example, Do I have to use two different applications for that? and where to trigger the process. Can I trigger in my Webdynpro application?
Please give me the steps.
Thank You,
Suresh.

Hi all..
Please help me out with my query..
In my Scenario, Its similar to Suresh's requirement..Some Inputs fields and then saving them to database...I followed all the steps refering dis query.
But i didnt found my input params of my webdynpro component, while creating an object for ABAP Webdynpro Application in the Action.
Can anybdy tell me...is there any setting to be done, in my webdynpro component to achieve this.
Please help me out to resolve my problem, also i am really confused abt this roles for a Procee and Block, depends on wht dey are set???
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