Scheduling Agreement - Fixed Order Quantity
Hi Experts!
For a short time we work with scheduling agreements in our company. So far it work well, but know i have a question, maybe anyone of you can help me with my issue.
We would order always the same fixed order quantitiy, i know that i can do this in the material master, but we still have more than one vendor for one material. So i can´t maintain the fixed order quantitiy in the material master.
Does anyone have a idea, how i can handle this? Maybe in the inforecord, but the MRP doesn´t consinder the values in the inforecord.
Best Regards
Florian
Hi,
Use CDHDR and CDPOS tables.
Goto VA33 or VA32. In menu Click on environment choose changes.
Enter agreement number and execute. select the line click on choose button. you will get details.
Regards,
Chandra
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