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  • Balance Score Card Configuration Guide

    Hi Experts,
    Please guide me how to configure Balance Score Card In HCM.
    if any document is available please send that also to my id
    thanks
    Roopesh

    Hi Rishi,
    it is very interesting to read a 'first' inquiry about the balanced scorecard concept. You've found a very rich topic to educate yourself in. Personally, having worked in this area for almost eight years now, I would divide this topic in two main aspects:
    <b>1) Balanced Scorecard as methodology:</b> there are several great publications on this topic by the 'fathers' of this concept (Drs. Kaplan & Norton, see the response by Manish, too). The following two are key in my opinion and they've helped me a lot understand the theory:
    - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Balanced-Scorecard-Translating-Strategy-Action/dp/0875846513/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-6553279-1939130?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190017043&sr=8-1">The Balanced Scorecard: Translating Strategy into Action</a>
    - <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Strategy-Focused-Organization-Scorecard-Companies-Environment/dp/1578512506/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/104-6553279-1939130?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190017043&sr=8-3">The Strategy-Focused Organization: How Balanced Scorecard Companies Thrive in the New Business Environment</a>
    Some additional basic info can be found on Wikipedia, too:
    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_scorecard">Wikipedia - balanced scorecard</a>
    <b>2) Balanced Scorecard as supported by SAP applications:</b> I would recommend you to have a look at a new strategy/performance management solution of SAP called SAP Strategy Management (SSM) which replaced the older Balanced Scorecard app of Strategic Enterprise Management (SEM). More info on SAP SSM can be found e.g. <a href="http://here">http://www.sap.com/solutions/performancemanagement/index.epx</a>. SSM supports the Balanced Scorecard methodology but at the same time it is methodology-agnostic and can be used for all performance management methodologies based on objectives, KPI's and initiatives. SSM is based on technology acquired by SAP with a company called Pilot earlier this year.

  • A PC buying guide for NLE (mainly Intel)

    For AMD setups, disregard the mentions of sockets and the like but the general recommendations still hold.
    When you need a new PC for editing purposes, you basically have three choices:
    1. Buy an off the shelf system from companies like HP or Dell.
    2. Buy a custom built PC from a specialist company, like ADK Pro Audio| Digital Audio workstations, Pro Audio Laptops, Pro audio interfaces, Pro audio software, DAW.
    3. Build it yourself.
    Solution 1 can offer good prices if you stick to their standard configurations and it is easy. But remember that these companies make their profit not on the base system, but on all the options they offer. If you follow their recommendations and upgrade memory, hard disks, or choose a better video card or a faster processor, they steal you blind.
    I have nothing against HP or Dell, I have bought systems from them, but usually that was because of a great offer with all the features I needed at the time and applied to notebooks, desktops and servers.
    Solution 2 is usually costly, but you get what you pay for. You get the expertise of the seller/builder in selecting the right components, he builds it, installs the software and tests it before delivery. The downside is that often these specialists have their own favorite hardware, like Matrox or Canopus and try to get that into the deal, which increases the price.
    Solution 3 is usually the most cost effective and the most flexible, but the largest drawback is that you need to choose all the right components, to be aware of potential incompatibilities and build it yourself. Many see that as a major stumbling block, but really it is not difficult. Another drawback is support. You have to do it yourself.
    The first steps to take are twofold:
    1. What material do you want to edit and how do you want to deliver the results?
    To put it bluntly, if you want to edit material, recorded with a mobile phone, a digital still camera, recorded off the internet from YouTube or similar, recorded from TV, grabbed from the screen, encoded with any unsuitable codec like DivX, XVid, or the like, or ripped from DVD, and that is your major purpose, no need to read this further, just use a consumer application like Windows Movie Maker or Magix for your editing.
    This guide is for people who use a VIDEO camera and want to edit that.
    So for people with video cameras, what is the main format you use? DV, HDV, DVCPROHD, AVCHD, XDCAMHD, other?
    Do you deliver for the web, on BR or DVD or all of those?
    2. What is your budget?
    Once you have answered these two basic questions for yourself can you start the selection process.
    It will require you to read quite a lot about PC's. Good general sources of information are:
    http://www.tomshardware.com and http://anandtech.com
    As a general rule of thumb you can say that the minimum requirements in terms of CPU, despite what Adobe mentions as minimum requirements, are:
    1. For DV: Core 2 Duo
    2. For AVCHD: i7 with HT or dual Xeon's 55xx
    3. For other HD formats: Core 2 Quad
    It generally does not pay to get the fastest CPU, unless you have an unlimited budget. Their price/performance is usually not the best and you will find a step down gives you nearly the same performance at a much lower price. And there is always overclocking, but I'll come back to that later. To give an example, the Core 2 Extreme QX6850 is currently more than 4 times as expensive as the Core 2 Quad Q9550, but does not deliver any noteworthy performance improvement. And both are quad cores.
    To help you narrow down your choices, it is worthwhile to have a look at these charts:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desptop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Cinema-4D-Release-10,835.htm l
    Likely a new version for Q1-2009 will come out shortly.
    In deciding on your shortlist, keep in mind that for video editing FSB speed and cache size are very important. First look at FSB speed (the higher the better, so if you have the choice between 1066 or 1333 FSB, always choose the higher one if it fits your budget). Next narrow down your choices by selecting the CPU with the largest cache. 6 MB L3 cache is better than 3 MB.
    Let's assume that after studying all these sites and reading a lot about CPU's, you have made a shortlist of possible candidates, that fit the minimum requirements indicated above, you have to identify what socket the CPU uses. Is it a 775 pin socket (Core2), a 1366 pin (i7 or Xeon 55xx) or a 771 Xeon 54xx or lower (old generation) socket. This will largely determine your choice of motherboard and memory type you need and as a consequence the case and cooling you need.
    In general the chipset on a 775 mobo uses DDR2, dual channel memory, which is widely available and relatively cheap. On a 771 mobo the memory used is FBDIMM (fully buffered DDR2) with ECC (error correction) which is much harder to get and significantly more expensive. On a 1366 mobo the memory is triple channel DDR3 which is faster than DDR2 but also more expensive. For Xeon 55xx based boards memory used is FBDIMM's triple channel with ECC, which is hard to find and costly.
    The main difference between DDR2 and DDR3 is that dual channel requires two populated memory banks for dual channel operation, whereas triple channel DDR3 requires three banks populated. That is the reason that mobo's with DDR2 usually come with 4 or 8 GB RAM and DDR3 mobo's with 6 or 12 GB RAM. DDR3 is faster (at the same specs) than DDR2. To complicate matters further, most 775 mobo's offer 4 memory slots, 1366 mobo's usually offer 6 memory slots and 1366 dual socket Xeon boards usually offer 12 memory slots.
    I see you are losing interest, this is getting way too complicated. Well, I'm sorry but if you want to make an informed decision on what your next system should be, you need to understand these basics or buy a Dell or HP or even Alienware (a Dell subsidiary). And I continue to bore you with these technicalities in order to help you make a good purchasing decision.
    When selecting a mobo for the CPU you have selected, read tests on TomsHardware or AnandTech to help you find the good performers that have the right set of features for your job. Good brands are ASUS, Abit, Gigabyte and MSI for single socket use, for dual socket the best one to check out is SuperMicro or possibly Tyan.
    Pay attention to the features a board offers, like dual NIC's (network interface controller), dual firewire, number of SATA ports, chipset used for the SATA controller, IHCR and/or Marvell raid capability, on board sound, etcetera. Pay special attention to the board layout, where the PCI-e slots are located in relation to PCI slots. I have once built a machine where I knew I had to use a PCI firewire board and due to the location of the PCI-e slot and the size of the video card (dual slot size) the PCI slot was no longer accessible. It caused me quite some headaches to find a PCI-x firewire replacement board, because I had forgotten to have a close look at the mobo layout. Just a warning, so you don't fall into the same trap I did.
    Ok, we have now decided on the CPU and the mobo. Let's have a look at memory.
    General rule: Get as much as you can and don't spend it on higher clock capable versions! You will gain more from slower memory in large quantities, than from faster but less memory, even with 32 bit apps like CS4. One of the side effects of more memory is less use of a pagefile, which is far slower than RAM, so even if the application can not access more than 4 GB, your pagefile use will be much lower with more memory installed.
    Memory is offered with various ratings. Often in marketing jargon these are dubbed as PC3-8500 or PC3-10600 or PC3-12800 up to 16000. This is all hype. The price tag increases significantly with higher numbers but the performance gain is negligent, in the order of 1 or 2 %. Your best bet is to get memory that is suitable for the FSB speed you have. If you have a FSB of 1333, use memory for 1333 FSB (10600), if you have a FSB of 1066, get 1066 capable memory (8500), it is a complete waste of money to get 1600 capable memory if your FSB does not support it. What is important however is to get the best timings you can find.
    The lower the CAS latency, the better. Also look at tRAS (ROW-ACTIVE-TIME) results. These timing figures may give you better performance than spending money on higher clocked memory. On my system I have 6-6-6-18 timings for memory (even when overclocked by 35% and without increasing the voltage), which gives far better results than 9-9-9-27 timings. BTW, timings are usually measured in CAS, RAS-to-CAS, tRP and tRAS sequence. The lower these numbers, the better it is.
    In general get at least 4 GB on a 775 or 6 GB on a 1366 mobo, but you may benefit from doubling these figures if you are multitasking, for instance having PR, AE and EN open for dynamic linking, or changing to PS for text or still manipulation.
    Next: Storage. I point you to a previous guide I made which gives you the basics about disk setup:
    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/427772
    Next cases. I suggest to only look at big towers or server towers, depending on the mobo of your choice. For dual CPU sockets a server tower is almost always a must, decause of the use of e-ATX size mobo's and the requirement for specialized cooling, often using an air duct, which is only available in server cases. SuperMicro is a prime supplier and my personal favorite in terms of build quality, expansion capabilities and reliability. Be aware however that the power supply in those cases are pretty noisy. For single CPU solutions there are many choices, often based on looks. What is much more important however is the expansion room and the airflow in those cases. You don't want to pimp your editing machine with LED illuminated fans, transparent sides and the like. It needs to be functional. Antec, CoolerMaster, Lian Li and ThermalTake are common brands and worth having a look at. Looking at smaller cases with a sexy look will often lead to disappointment in the future, since they often lack the capability to add additional disk drives or burners internally or get so full with equipment, that cooling is going to be a real problem. Do take into consideration that you may need 1 or 2 5.25" slots for burners.
    Warning: COOLING is essential for reliability and longevity of your system. We'll get to that in a minute.
    If you work long form projects, have a multitude of projects or other situations that may require a large number of disks in use or for backup, it is worth to have a look at cases that offer SAS backplanes and (hot-)swappable disk cages. Often on various sites you may find entries to case modding, where you can find other disk cages that allow you to use four 3.5" disks in the space for two 5.25" slots. In my case I had 6 3.5" slots as is was delivered. I have modded my case to now contain 14 3.5" disks just on the front with room for another disk. To avoid disappointment in the future and a lot of work of rebuilding your PC into a new chassis, plan ahead for the storage requirements you may have in the next years. If you start out with 4
    disks now, but expect to use 8 next year, be sure that they fit in, even if it requires different disk cages. Make sure that there is adequate cooling for the disks in the disk cages, preferably with 80 or 120 mm fans in front of the disks and use a replacable dust filter.
    By this stage we have found the CPU, mobo, memory, hard disks and case. Time to have a look at video cards.
    General: CS4 will not significantly benefit from a high end video card. The marketing hype wants us to believe that the nVidia
    Quadro CX will give enormous benefits for encoding H.264, but that is just what it is: "Hype".
    For general NLE work you are better served with more CPU power, more memory and more hard disks and possibly a better raid controller with more cache than with a video card that costs you at least $ 1 K extra in comparison to very good cards. Better spend the money where you benefit from it. SLI or CrossFire is a complete waste of money and only applies to gamers. Everybody serious about video editing will NEVER install a game on his machine so forget about those things.
    If you make sure that you have at least 512 MB on a decent modern video card, you will be hard pressed to see significant differences in performance. ATI Radeon 4xxx and nVidia GT 2xx series are all well up to the task for editing. If you use GPU intensive plug-ins like Colorista or Magic Bullet you may be wise to choose for the more powerful versions of these cards, since these plug-ins are very demanding when rendering.
    These video cards get very hot in practice and especially under load. If your case is very full or you have another card in the next PCI-e slot, reducing airflow to the video card, you may consider exchanging the stock cooler on the video card by a special cooler like the Accelero Twin Turbo from Arctic Cooling to keep temperatures in hand.
    Now go to http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp and use the PSU calculator to roughly decide what your power supply needs to deliver in terms of Wattage. I strongly suggest to get the PRO version (it is cheap!) but it saves you from fatal mistakes. A PSU (power supply unit) is one of the most overlooked and neglected components in a PC and very often the cause for all kinds of mysterious faults, hangs, BSOD's, restarts etcetera. Let me tell what nearly happened to me when building a new PC. I had checked the power supply requirements, checked reviews online and found one PSU that appealed to me, based on the reviews. It was a Zalman 1000 W. Great, looks good and in stock at an attractive price. I then got the pro version and rechecked, with the extra info on the various rails. The Zalman did not have enough power on the 5V rails that I needed. So I had to change the PSU, otherwise I would have been in for a lot of strange, unexplainable and foreall unexpected hangs, restarts and the like, apart from the reduced life expectancy of the PSU.
    Now, we're finally getting somewhere. Only cooling is left, then all the hardware components have been chosen.
    CPU cooling: Again check sites like AnandTech. They regularly perform extensive tests on CPU coolers. Be aware that test results differ widely from site to site, but some of the names to consider are Noctua, Scythe and Thermaltake. It is best to choose a vertical heatsink cooler with 'push-pull' configuration, meaning one fan in front to push the cooling air in to the heatsink and the other fan at the rear to pull out the air. That generally delivers the best cooling performance. These things can be quite heavy so they are not suggested for LAN parties. Install it and leave your PC where it is, otherwise the weight may damage your mobo. When installing the heatsink be very sparing in applying cooling paste (Arctic silver is a good
    suggestion).
    If you have followed my advise in getting a big tower you have room for additional fans in the case. There may not always be holes to attach screws for mounting, but what also works quite effectively is using heavy duty double sided tape to attach fans to a side, on the PSU (if it is mounted at the bottom of the case). Scythe has some very good fans that give a large airflow at reasonable RPM's and low sound levels.
    Once you have built your system you need to decide what OS to use. 32 or 64 bit? The point seems moot now. 64 bit Vista is your best option currently. No driver problems anymore, somewhat decent stability and the use of all your installed memory. Windows 7 is only a RC currently, so I would not advise that on a production machine, but on another machine I would definitely try it. It is as stable as Vista is now, but drivers are still somewhat lacking. XP is out, despite the best stability on a clean and mean system, due to the 32 bit nature.
    After installing the OS, first check your device manager. Make sure that all your devices are working and there are no warnings. Then update Windows, drivers and other system utilities. Then check your hardware, using CPU-Z and HWMonitor, check the cooling and voltages. Your disks should be below 35 C at all times. Then tune your Bios. Once you have completed these steps, proceed with installing your software. Start with essential system tools like Process Explorer, Beyond Compare, etc. and then continue with tuning Windows, removing sh*t you never use on an editing machine, like MSN or Games, setting unneeded services to manual, disabling Windows Defender and installing Symantec Endpoint protection if you have it, and only then start installing CS4 and related programs.
    When all is well, you may consider to start overclocking. TomsHardware and AnandTech have published several articles on how to do that. If you do it right you will not lose stability and may get significant performance gains. It does require more attention to the temperatures in your case.
    When I recently built a new system, my first PassMark (a common benchmark testing program) score was around 3600. After finetuning the system, optimizing Windows and overclocking, I got a PassMark score of 4733.8, which even after a month is still number two in the worldwide ranking.
    For my system specs, look below, maybe you can derive some ideas from it for your next configuration:
    http://www.millcon.nl/Harm/PCResults.jpg
    I hope this has been informative and that you can profit from my remarks.
    I'm sorry this was so long and taxed your patience to the extreme.
    Further suggestions and enhancements are welcome.

    I haven't the faintest idea. I only use DV, HDV and XDCAM-EX/HD and have never tried it with any (RED) 4K material. I assume it should be sufficient to handle that. But let's be honest, when I increased my raid array from 10 to 12 disks, I did not notice ANY performance gains. The limiting factor must be the PCI-e bus or the Areca controller, that just does not show any improvements from adding a couple of disks. Another thing to consider is that the various benchmark programs widely in use show quite different results.
    As an example, here are two images from HD Tune Pro, one for my 2 disk raid0 on the Marvell chip and the other from my 12 disk raid30 array. First of all, HD Tune shows the wrong size, it is not 2199 GB but should be 10000 GB (at least that is what Areca claims as shown in the last picture), second it ONLY performs at around 745 MB/s transfer rate.
    The most noteworthy item to look at is the rapid performance degradation of this raid0 when the disks get fuller. An average transfer rate of 165 MB/s is quite acceptable for a 2 disk setup, but seeing it go down to below 100 MB/s when the disks fill up is bothersome. It will not allow you to handle uncompressed HD at all.

  • Neo4 Overclocking Guide

    This guide is intended to help those people who have K8N Neo4 (nforce 4 based) boards.  It will provide some general background information, but a lot of things will be specific to this particular series of motherboards, and in general it is assumed that the user is at least moderately familiar with the basic concepts of computer hardware and the concepts and risks associated with overclocking.  As usual, I am in no way responsible for any losses/damages resulting in whole or in part from the use or misuse of this information, or in short, "overclock at your own risk".  It should also be noted that I have the Neo4 Platinum, so things might be slightly different for those of you with the SLI or other variants of this board, though I would strongly suspect that most of the overclocking features will be pretty much the same.  Anyways:
    The Basics:
    Okay, for those of you who are new to the overclocking crowd, here is a quick overview of some of the essential bits of knowledge.  A very complete and thorough introduction and general overclocking guide is also available at https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=40413.0 for those of you who need extra help.
    CPU Speed - If you don't know what this is, then I wonder what you were hoping to attain by accessing an article about "overclocking".  The main aim of overclocking is to increase the CPU speed beyond what it is originally specified to run at.  The CPU speed is equivalent to the product of your FSB speed and the CPU multiplier.
    FSB - FSB is short for "frontside bus".  Historically the FSB essentially controls the speed at which the CPU is able to communicate with the rest of the system, and this is pretty much still true for the Athlon64, although the impact of higher FSB speeds is somewhat diminished, as we will see later.  On the Neo4 (and most any other board) the FSB and various multipliers/dividers are responsible for determining the core CPU speed, the memory speed, and the HTT speed.  You PCI-E bus is locked, so raising the FSB will not cause your video card and other devices to become unstable.  Additionally, there is no need to worry about an overclocked FSB screwing up the built-in SATA/IDE controller (the nforce one at least, I haven't tested the SiL, although it should be fine as well).
    HTT - HTT (or sometimes just HT) is short for "HyperTransport Technology".  Not to be confused with the HyperThreading feature on Intel's P4 processors, this is the communication link between an Athlon64 processor and the PCI-E bus, as well as everything that hangs off this bus, including the SATA/IDE controllers and so on.  Basically, everything except for the RAM talks to the CPU via the HTT bus.  The speed of the HTT bus is determined by taking the product of the FSB speed and the HyperTransport multiplier, and it provides an extremely large amount of potential throughput, so much so that once its speed is above about 800 MHz, there's very little to be gained by pushing the HTT speed higher.
    Memory Clock - The memory clock refers to the speed at which the RAM modules are operated.  The memory clock is determined by taking the FSB and applying a ratio to it.  Generally speaking, a higher memory clock is better, although there are tradeoffs in terms of latency if memory timings (CAS latency, etc.) have to be loosened in order to get the memory clock higher, or if a ratio other than 1:1 is used (which will be necessary for high overclocks unless the RAM you are using is of extremely high quality).
    PCI-E - The PCI-Express bus.  This provides connectivity for your graphics card(s) and other add-in cards.  The default PCI-E speed is 100 MHz, and this is locked on the Neo4 so that increasing the FSB does not increase the PCI-E speed.  You may manually increase the PCI-E speed if you wish, although this is not at all recommended.
    vcore - This is an abbreviated way of referring to the voltage that is applied to the CPU.  Generally speaking, a higher vcore will provide stability at higher clock speeds, the tradeoff being additional heat, which may or may not require a more robust cooling solution, depending on how high the vcore is being pushed, the quality of your thermal interface compound, and the thermal characteristics of your individual CPU (some just overclock better than others).  For the 90 nm Athlon64, the default vcore is 1.40V.  The default is slightly higher for the 130 nm variants.
    vmem - Similar to "vcore", this is a shorthand way of referring to the voltage that is currently being applied to the RAM modules.  Again, an elevated vmem will generally give you improved stability at higher memory clock speeds.  Memory specifications vary from manufacturer to manufacturer in terms of what voltages are supported (for instance, my RAM supports from 2.55V to 2.95V), though the default voltage is usually 2.65V.  Vmem, vdimm, and vram all refer to the same thing.
    Purchasing:
    For anyone who happens to stumble across this guide while in the process of looking for some new hardware, I thought I'd list some of the things that are important considerations when you are buying a system with the intent of overclocking it.
    The CPU - For most people, the main point behind their desire to overclock is that they want to be able to get a cheap CPU, and then run it at the same speed (or faster than) of a CPU that costs much more (possibly one for which the price premium has not come down on yet).  When choosing which CPU to purchase, there are a few aspects that are especially relevant to overclocking (I'm going to assume that you've already decided to use an AMD CPU, due to the reduced overclockability, thermal problems, and generally poorer performance in most areas despite having higher raw clock speeds that all of Intel's current P4 models offer).  Arguably the most important feature (when looking at the current Athlon64's anyways, which are very good CPU's and which you have to use if you want the Neo4) is the manufacturing process used.  This denotes the size of the smallest individual feature on the chip (smaller is better).  Your two choices right now are 90 nm and 130 nm.  The 90 nm carries a fairly small price premium (about $10 for the 3000+/3200+ models), but is *much* more overclockable due to the fact that it operates at a lower voltage (and thus generates less heat), and also uses a more "mature" revision than the 130 nm parts.  It is *strongly* recommended that you make sure to get a 90 nm CPU if you are in the market for a new socket 939 Athlon64.  The next thing to consider is the default CPU multiplier.  This is the one reason why it might be preferable to get a 3200+ over a 3000+ chip (generally speaking, all the 90 nm Athlon64's have about the same upper limit on their overclocked core speeds, until you hit the still very expensive 3800+ and FX variants, so it doesn't make sense to buy a more expensive CPU when you're not getting any extra overclockability out of it).  The multipliers on the Athlon64 CPU's are "half-locked", meaning that you can run at the default multiplier (9x for the 3000+, 10x for the 3200+), or any multiplier that is smaller than the default, but you cannot select a multiplier that is higher than your default multiplier.  Thus, getting the 3200+ over the 3000+ gives you two extra multipliers (10x and 9.5x) and, all things being equal, will let you achieve a higher clock speed before you are forced to run your RAM asynchronously and pay the latency penalty for doing so, although your max clock speed will likely be about the same as it would if you had gotten the 3000+ instead (so if you have cheap RAM that's not giong to overclock well at all, there's very little reason to go with the 3200+ unless a RAM upgrade is planned in the near future).  So, for overclocking purposes my recommendation is a 90 nm Socket 939 Athlon64 3000+, or if you have high performance memory and want to get the most out of it, the 3200+.  Both chips are competitively priced and should overclock at least to 2.4 GHz, if not higher, on stock cooling (spend the extra $10 for the non-OEM variant and get the HSF that comes with the chip, it works as well as many more expensive third-party air-based systems and is well worth the extra $10), and of course both offer the attractive feature-set of a socket 939 Athlon64 (dual integrated memory controllers, 64-bit support, dual-core processors on the future upgrade path, etc.).
    The Motherboard - The motherboard is an important part of overclocking as well.  There's not much point in getting a highly overclockable CPU and then pairing it with a mainboard that was not designed with overclocking in mind, and this is one area where the Neo4 really shines...it has superb overclocking support.  Probably the most important feature to have if you indend to overclock your CPU by 20%+ (which should be easily attainable on either of the recommended CPU's above) is that the board have locks that prevent the overclocked FSB from overclocking parts of the system that can't handle the extra speed (like the PCI/PCI-E bus, for example), and long story short, the Neo4 has these (unlike the Via-based K8T Neo, which had no locks and which limited SATA users to overclocks of no more than about 225 MHz because any high than that and the SATA controllers would start to become unstable and kill your HDD data...working locks are a very good and important thing if you are overclocking).  The next important feature is to choose a board whose BIOS lets you control the options that are important for overclocking.  Again, the Neo4 does excellent here, letting you pick your memory divider, memory timings (and some very obscure ones at that), CPU multiplier, FSB speed, HTT multiplier, CPU voltage, chipset voltage, RAM voltage, and so on without complaint.  The MB also has a handly little button on it that will clear the CMOS with a single press (no more screwing around with those annoying jumpers) in case you screw up and the system won't POST.  The board also has some extra cooling hardware installed in the form of a passive heatsink near the rear I/O panel, but mostly it's the presence of functional locks and the wide range over overclocking related BIOS features that make it attractive from an overclocking perspective.  Aside from this, it has a very nice feature set in general, including 8 SATA ports and 2 IDE channels (for a total of up to 12 drives), two gigabit ethernet adapters, firewire, 7.1 channel audio, and the additional selling point that nvidia's unified drivers tend to be much easier to install than most companies' drivers.
    Cooling:
    Okay, one last thing to consider before the overclocking starts.  Cooling is important in general and especially if you are going to be overclocking.  While a 90 nm Athlon64 performs rather admirably from a thermal perspective even when only stock cooling components are used, some simple modifications can drop your idle/load temps by 5+ degrees, which can give you a bit more overclocking headroom and which in any event will make your CPU happier. 
    Case Fans - The first thing you want to do is make sure your case is adequately ventilated...in general a single 120 mm exhaust fan will do the job just fine.  If your case does not support fans this large, use at least two 80 mm fans, either both as exhaust, or one as exhaust and one as intake (if they perform differently, use the more powerful one as the exhaust fan to avoid overpressuring your case).  If noise is a concern, the Vantec Stealth (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-614&depa=1) series of case fans are affordable, come in a variety of sizes, perform quite well, and do not make much noise at all (though you might want to consider doubling up on the 120 mm's just to be on the safe side).  This can lower your CPU temp by about 2 to 5 degrees over a poorly ventilated case configuration using the same CPU fan.
    CPU Fan - As I mentioned earlier, the default CPU fan that comes packaged with the retail Athlon64 chips is perfectly acceptable for overclocking use in my opinion.  The only complaint I have is that the thermal compound that comes preapplied to the HSF is fairly cheap and does not perform that well.  I *very strongly* recommend replacing it with Arctic Silver (http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm) before ever installing it on your CPU.  To remove the default thermal pad, you can use a razor blade to get most of it off, and then hot soapy water (or denatured alcohol I've heard) to remove any remaining reside.  Be sure that the HSF is free of any cleaning residue and also of any moisture before going to install it on the CPU, and then just apply the Arctic Silver and then complete the HSF installation, and you're good to go.  Arctic Silver is relatively cheap (the tube you'll get will do several CPU's, and it doesn't go bad), and by replacing the thermal pad that comes on the stock HSF with it, you should be able to reduce your idle/load times by at least 5 degrees, and with this plus the added reduction you get from having a well ventilated case, you should have enough headroom to pull off some pretty aggressive overclocks.
    Overclocking:
    Finally, on to the good (and Neo4 specific) stuff.  Hopefully at this point you have a freshly built Neo4 based system with an Athlon64 CPU that provides a large headroom for overclocking.
    Initial Setup - Okay, the first thing you're going to want to do once the system is built and powered on for the first time is enter the BIOS and configure everything to run at its *default* settings.  It's not quite time to overclock yet.  First, you want to install Windows, patch it to SP2 if necessary, and then install some benchmarking, stress testing, and monitoring software.  SiSoft Sandra is a good benchmark suite, as are FutureMark's PCMark and 3dMark lines of software.  For stress testing you can use SuperPi and Prime95 (and Memtest86 if you don't mind the tedium of having to reboot in order to use it, which I do so I don't bother with it).  For monitoring you can use SpeedFan or Motherboard Monitor 5.  At the very least you should install one application from each category, and configure your monitoring software to launch when Windows loads.  One you have all this configured and working right, it's time to start overclocking (don't install too much else, in case of the worst case scenario in which an instability causes your HDD to become corrupted, requiring a reinstall of Windows and all the software, which is admittedly very unlikely, but unfortunately possible if you're unlucky enough).  For comparison purposes you may want to run some benchmarks and record the results before you start.  Additionally, you may want to install something like ClockGen, which will let you tweak your FSB/CPU coltage on the fly and which can make it easier to zero in on a stable configuration without having to reboot every time an instability is found.
    BIOS Layout - Just to save some time, I'll describe where BIOS options that we'll be using are all in one place, so that when I reference something you can just look up here and figure out how to find the appropriate setting in the BIOS.  Basically, there are two pages that we're interested in for overclocking (note that the Neo4 manual is actually extremely well done, and describes pretty much all of the BIOS options, so you can use it as well).  The first is the "Advanced Chipset Features" page.  Going "Advanced Chipset Features" -> "DRAM Configuration" brings up pretty much all of your memory related options (divider, timings, etc.), *except* for the RAM voltage.  The RAM voltage option is on the "Cell Menu" page, which happens to also contain all the other settings we are interested in, including FSB speed, HTT multiplier, CPU multiplier, vcore, vmem, chipset voltage, etc..  Basically, if it's not memory related, it's on the "Cell Menu" page.
    HTT Speed - As mentioned earlier, your HTT speed pretty much has no performance impact on the system once it gets to 800+ MHz, so the very first thing you can do is select the 4x HTT multiplier in the BIOS.  Note that as the HTT speed gets above about 1100 MHz, it will probably start to make the system unstable.  Therefore, you should keep track of the product of your FSB setting and your HTT multiplier, and whenever it gets to be above 1100, decrement the HTT multiplier to the next lowest setting.  at a 4x multiplier, you should be good up to about 275 MHz on your FSB.  Because the HTT's impact on performance is negligible, you do not need to worry about trying to maximize its value during overclocking.
    CPU speed - Onve you've reduced your HTT multiplier, it's time to find your max stable core speed.  To do this first go to the memory page and select a memclock index of 100 MHz.  This will run your RAM it half the FSB speed, and the reason for doing this is to ensure that as we raise the FSB, any instability the occurs is a result of the overclocked CPU and not a result of overclocked RAM, so that we can be sure that we have indeed found the maximum stable CPU speed when we are done.  Leave your other RAM settings at their defaults, we'll come back and tweak these later.  Now go to the CPU page and select "Manual" for the "High Performance Mode" option if necessary to enable editing of the settings.  You should disable Dynamic Overclocking (since you are doing this manually) and I recommend disabling Cool'n'Quiet, though you don't have to if you really don't want to.  Disable all the "... Spectrum" settings (what these do is kind of complicated, but the manual plainly states that they should be disabled if you are overclocking, so heed its advice).  Also disable "Aggressive Timing", as this will decrease your RAM overclockability substantially without providing any real benefit (and may make it unstable even at its rated settings).  Now, what you want to do is, leaving the other CPU settings (i.e. vcore and multiplier) the same, start raising your FSB Frequency in 10 to 12 MHz increments, depending on your multiplier (basically you want to raise it about 100 MHz at a time).  Some people feel this is a fairly large jump to do at a time, but I've found that the Athlon64 handles it just fine.  If you get up above about 2.4 GHz, then you might want to only go by half of this at a time though.  Remember to decrement your HTT multiplier as necessary.  Basically, every time you raise the FSB, test for stability by letting the system try to boot to Windows.  If it is successful, return to BIOS and raise the core speed some more.  Once the system fails to boot, you have two options, either raise the CPU voltage (use the "CPU VID" setting in the BIOS to adjust the voltage directly, or the "CPU Voltage" setting to specify how much over the specified amount of voltage to apply...personally I prefer the "CPU VID" route, but it's really a matter of personal preference, and yes, both can be manipulated in unison...one thing I've noticed here is that the "CPU Voltage" settings seem to allow for less variance in the final vcore setting, keeping it very close to the specified voltage at all times, whereas increasing via the "CPU VID" option lets the voltage decrease a bit from the specified value when the system is not under load) and try again (and keep repeating until you have given the CPU as much voltage as you are comfortable with and the system can no longer be made stable), or return to you last stable setting and let it boot.  Once you have done this, use your benchmarking and stress testing software to make sure you really are stable at your settings.  If the system crashes or the test reports errors, you will either need to raise the voltage a little, or lower the FSB a little (this is where ClockGen can be a big timesaver).  While some people swear by Prime95, my opinion is that if you can get through the largest SuperPi test without any errors, your overclock is stable.  Monitor your temps while you do this.  If you notice that the CPU temperature is getting above 60 degrees, you are running a bit too hot.  Generally speaking, about 55 should be considered the threshold of safety here.  If you're running hot, you can either decrease the voltage and FSB settings, or get a better cooling solution.  Once you have determined that your setting is stable and not overheating your CPU, record your core speed (not your FSB speed, the total CPU speed) and voltage settings for later.  You should probably be shooting for a target clock speed of around 2.4 GHz, or more if you have good cooling, or if you are interested in doing a "safe" overclock, just shoot for as high as you can get without raising the voltage.
    Memory Speed - Now that you know your CPU's limits, it's time to work on the RAM.  First restore your FSB to 200 MHz and your CPU voltage to its default, and specify a CPU multiplier of 6x to make sure that the CPU will not be stressed as your raise the FSB.  Go to your RAM page, and manually specify whatever timings are appropriate to your RAM modules.  Also be sure to set "1T/2T Memory Timing" to 1T (set the "... Mode" setting to Manual to make the RAM settings editable).  Leave the rest of the settings alone, except for the "Memclock Index Value".  Here, you have a choice to make.  If you have high quality RAM, or your target CPU speed is not too high (like < 2.3 GHz), you can try to run your RAM synchronously, which will give you somewhat better latency.  If this is the case, select an index value of 200 MHz (note that on the Neo4, when you select a memclock index what you are really specifying in the ratio at which the RAM operates relative to the FSB...the memclock index option is basically just obscuring this setting.  To calculate your ratio, divide whatever the index value is by 200, so an index of 200 MHz is a 1:1 ratio, an index of 150 MHz is a 3:4 ratio, and so on).  If your RAM is not of very high quality (for example, it's only rated as PC3200), or your target CPU speed is high, you will likely need to run the RAM asynchronously, so select the next highest index value of 180 MHz.  This will let you get slightly higher RAM clock speeds, at the cost of a little bit of added latency (the performance hit isn't much...you'll be much faster running asynch at 2.4 GHz than synch at 2.2 GHz).  Now you do the same thing that you did with the CPU, gradually increasing the FSB (you might want to use smaller increments this time though) until the system will no longer boot (remember again to decrease the HTT multiplier if necessary), and then returning to your last stable setting (or increasing the voltage and repeating) and booting to Windows and running stability tests.  You do not need to monitor your temps while doing the RAM tests (unless you want to).  Generally I find that Sandra's "Cache and Memory..." benchmark works well for detecting memory instability, and you can also use SuperPi, Prime95, or Memtest86 as well.  Once you have tested stable, record your memory clock speed (use the formula:  memory speed = FSB speed * memclock index value / 200) and voltage and reboot to the BIOS settings menu.  Note that while you may be able to attain a higher memory clock speed by selecting a higher CAS latency, it is not generally advisible to do so, as from what I've seen, although memory bandwidth remains about the same as CAS increases (as far as Sandra is concerned anyways), the lower latency provided by CAS2 improves the system score by 5% in PCMark 04, and given that RAM performance scales pretty much linearly relative to the clock speed, unless running at CL2.5 lets you get *at least* 10 to 15 MHz higher than at CL2, it is not worth it overall.
    Run the Numbers - Believe it or not the performance of the Neo4 system is dictacted pretty much entirely by the core and memory clock speeds (given identical memory timing settings).  The only other real factor is whether the RAM is run synchronously or not, which you just decided in the above step, so all that's left to do now is find the combination of memclock index, FSB, and CPU multiplier that allow you to get as clost to both your target core and memory speeds as possible.  If you are running synchronously, your task is simple, just keep your memclock index of 200 MHz, specify your target FSB speed, and your default CPU multiplier (unless your RAM is so good that the CPU is not stable at the default multiplier and the RAM's top FSB speed, in which case drop the multiplier accordingly).  If running the RAM asynchronously your task is a bit more difficult (having a calculator for this part will help), basically you have to go through the list of memory dividers (memclock indexes), and for each one calculate the ratio of memclock index / 200, and then divide your target memory clock speed by that ratio to get the FSB needed to attain your target memory speed (for example, if the target is 230 MHz, for a memclock index of 150 we get a ratio of 0.75, and 230 / 0.75 = 307 MHz, so running the RAM at 230 MHz with an index of 150 MHz requires a FSB setting of 307 MHz...pretty good if your target clockspeed is 2.45 GHz, as selecting an 8x multiplier will pretty much hit this exactly), and then go through the available *whole* CPU multipliers (I've heard that the half-multipliers should be avoided, as they cause the memory to get clocked incorrectly) and see if any multiplier times the FSB you calculated hits (or comes reasonably close to hitting) your target CPU speed.  Go through all of them until you get an exact (or very close) match, and pick whichever one ends up matching most closely.  Note that there is no benefit in this case to a higher FSB speed configuration over a lower FSB speed configuration, provided that both produce the same core and memory clock values, so you should not favor configurations with needlessly high FSB settings unless they produce a better fit than the others.  Apply whichever settings are closest, and then apply the appropriate CPU and memory voltage settings that you got from the previous steps.  Also apply whichever HTT multiplier will put you closest to 1000 MHz without going over 1100 MHz.  After this, your system should be ready to boot, overclocked and stable.  Be sure to do additional benchmarking and stress testing to make sure that you really are stable (if you saved your scores at the beginning, compare them to your scores now and marvel at the improvement...and post the results for people to see), and be sure to monitor your temps for a bit to make sure your cooling is working adequately.
    Post Overclock Overclocking:
    There's not a whole lot to do now, but if you want to try to tweak your memory timings to get a little bit of extra performance, now is the time to do it...just remember to record your stable overclock settings somewhere (*not* on the computer) in case the tweaking forces a CMOS reset and you lose all your settings, and enjoy.  Also you can overclock whatever video card you have, a process that's much easier and faster than overclocking your CPU/RAM/FSB.
    In Closing:
    I hope someone out there finds this useful, given how long it took to write up.  Maybe I'll get lucky and this will end up as a sticky...we'll see.  And just to start things off, here are my benchmark scores, at stock and at the overclock described in my sig:
    Stock:
    3dMark05 = 3141
    PCMark04 = 3589
    Overclocked:
    3dMark05 = 3704
    PCMark = 4805
     

    Just started ocing the system, I'm new at this so these are where my system stands and the results
                                  --------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003-2005 Lavalys, Inc. ]------------------------------------------------------------
        Version                                           EVEREST v2.20.405
        Homepage                                          http://www.lavalys.com/
        Report Type                                       Report Wizard
        Computer                                          HOWARD-4B304E62
        Generator                                         Howard
        Operating System                                  Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
        Date                                              2005-09-16
        Time                                              16:14
    --------[ Overclock ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        CPU Properties:
          CPU Type                                          AMD Athlon 64
          CPU Alias                                         Venice S939
          CPU Stepping                                      DH-E3
          CPUID CPU Name                                    AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
          CPUID Revision                                    00020FF0h
        CPU Speed:
          CPU Clock                                         2456.56 MHz
          CPU Multiplier                                    9.0x
          CPU FSB                                           272.95 MHz  (original: 200 MHz, overclock: 36%)
          Memory Bus                                        204.71 MHz
        CPU Cache:
          L1 Code Cache                                     64 KB  (Parity)
          L1 Data Cache                                     64 KB  (ECC)
          L2 Cache                                          512 KB  (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)
        Motherboard Properties:
          Motherboard ID                                    03/15/2005-MS-7100-6A61FM4BC-00
          Motherboard Name                                  MSI K8N Diamond / K8N SLI Platinum (MS-7100)  (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
        Chipset Properties:
          Motherboard Chipset                               nVIDIA nForce4 SLI, AMD Hammer
          Memory Timings                                    2-4-4-6  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
          Command Rate (CR)                                 1T
        SPD Memory Modules:
          DIMM1: GeIL CL25-4-4DDR 500                       512 MB PC4000 DDR SDRAM  (2.5-5-5-9 @ 250 MHz)  (2.0-5-5-9 @ 232 MHz)
          DIMM2: GeIL CL25-4-4DDR 500                       512 MB PC4000 DDR SDRAM  (2.5-5-5-9 @ 250 MHz)  (2.0-5-5-9 @ 232 MHz)
        BIOS Properties:
          System BIOS Date                                  03/15/05
          Video BIOS Date                                   06/27/05
          Award BIOS Type                                   Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
          Award BIOS Message                                W7100NZ1 V9.0 031505 14:17:53
          DMI BIOS Version                                  6.00 PG
        Graphics Processor Properties:
          Video Adapter                                     nVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT PCI-E
          GPU Code Name                                     NV43GT  (PCI Express x16 10DE / 0140, Rev A2)
          GPU Clock                                         299 MHz
          Memory Clock                                      522 MHz
    --------[ Power Management ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Power Management Properties:
          Current Power Source                              AC Line
          Battery Status                                    No Battery
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          Remaining Battery Lifetime                        Unknown
    --------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Sensor Properties:
          Sensor Type                                       Winbond W83627THF  (ISA 290h)
          GPU Sensor Type                                   Driver  (NV-DRV)
          Motherboard Name                                  MSI MS-7046 / 7100 / 7125
        Temperatures:
          Motherboard                                       32 °C  (90 °F)
          CPU                                               35 °C  (95 °F)
          GPU1: GPU                                         56 °C  (133 °F)
          GPU2: GPU                                         50 °C  (122 °F)
        Cooling Fans:
          CPU                                               3444 RPM
          System                                            2637 RPM
          North Bridge                                      7337 RPM
        Voltage Values:
          CPU Core                                          1.38 V
          +3.3 V                                            3.34 V
          +5 V                                              5.08 V
          +12 V                                             12.04 V
          +5 V Standby                                      5.17 V
          VBAT Battery                                      3.10 V
          Debug Info F                                      40 31 17
          Debug Info T                                      32 35 157
          Debug Info V                                      56 D1 C6 BD 1C 14 34 (01)
    --------[ Debug - PCI ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Benchmarking     PCMARK04/score:4684      3DMARK03/score:15075 
    got any suggestions, Im just trying to learn how to do this, any help would be greatly appreciated
     

  • The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide

     Note:  while this was at one time the correct guide, recent changes in policy have changed.  There will be updated information coming soon. One of the most popular topics of discussion on the forum is the American Express 3X CLI. Here is a small guide I put together to alleviate some misconceptions based on personal experiences and discussions here and other boards. Please feel free to suggest modifications or enhancements. Please don't copy/paste the information to other boards. Linking here is fine.  
    What is the 3X CLI?
    =========================================================== American Express is one of the most sought after credit cards in the market. They are also typically one of more generous companies with respect to credit limits outside of the credit unions. For folks who do not qualify for NFCU and other credit unions known to issue high credit limits despite low FICO scores and or moderate credit history, the best way to get high(er) CLs is to first get accepted into American Express and then apply for an increased credit limit upto 3 times the existing approved limit after a certain minimum number of days have passed (discussed in details below). This really comes in handy when the initial approved limit is on the lower side (example $2,000) due to internal American Express risk score models, mostly for folks starting out in their credit journey or with other risky credit/income factors. After completing the "60" day magic number of the account being open and in good standing, one can request an increased credit limit upto 3X the initial limit starting with the 61st day, meaning someone who got approved for $2,000 could request that the new credit limit be $2,000 x 3 = $6,000, someone who got approved for $3,000 initially could request the new credit limit be $3,000 x 3 = $9,000 and so on.  Why is the 3X CLI Important?
    =========================================================== Credit Utilization is one of the most important components of the FICO score (30% per official wording from FICO).Given the same amount of spending, with higher available credit, utilization is lower and hence FICO scores are higher. But more importantly this is a gateway to getting approved for other prime cards/rewards cards like Visa Signature, MasterCard World, points, cashback etc offered by various lenders like Chase, Citi, BoA, US Bank etc who typically issue them if they see an existing high limit card. Higher limits from one lender attracts higher limits from others up until the overall available credit reaches a certain threshold. No other lender is known to have a 3X CLI policy and that too as early as the 61st day. One may be able to procure a CLI from other lenders but typically it is a hard inquiry or sometimes flat out denial because the account is considered too new. Amex is the only lender that offers this. More recently though GEMB issued credit cards are also known to get generous increases (sometimes even > 3X initial limits) via a Soft Pull. This policy is relatively new but widely reported to be successful across different boards.  Is the 3X CLI automatic or guaranteed?
    =========================================================== Most definitely not. The components factored into a CLI approval or denial are not published but widely accepted to be similar to the FICO models. Amex also asks for income and rent during the CLI request process. Other factors remaining same, chances of a CLI approval are higher if the account has always been in good standing e.g lower utilization, low risk spending patterns, on time payments etc. The 3X CLI request has to be manually initiated by the account holder after becoming eligible. 
    Will there be a hard inquiry when requesting 3X CLI?
    ===========================================================
    Fortunately not. American Express initiates soft pulls on Experian throughout the life of an open account with random frequency. During the first 60 days, it is not uncommon for Amex to have soft pulled at least 3-4 times. The CLI approval or denial will be based on the last soft pull before the CLI request and other factors like income/rent etc. A new hard pull or soft pull is not initiated when requesting the 3X CLI. If in doubt, get a copy of your Experian report and see when Amex issued a soft pull to gauge account statistics at that snapshot and request CLI accordingly. Post 186 explains how to get your experian report and check for soft pulls. If there are concerns that the overall utilization or Amex utilization was high during the last soft pull, it might be worth waiting a few more days and then applying for CLI after Amex has issued a new soft pull. 
    When does an acccount become eligible for CLI?
    =========================================================== Amex does NOT increase an account's credit limit during the first 60 days after it has been OPENED, or for at least 6 months from the last credit limit increase. The key word here is OPENED aka the account creation date. There are a few ways to find out the exact date the account was opened. a) Call the number on the back of the card and simply ask the friendly customer service rep. There is nothing to be worried about here or get nervous. You are not asking for a CLI to the rep, but simply the day the account was opened. This can be done during card activation itself or any point later. Some friendly CSRs will also calculate and mention the first eligible date for CLI (61st day since account opening). If they are not aware of the first eligible date, simply ask for account opening/creation date and calculate it yourself. b) "Date Opened" field on your Equifax or TransUnion credit report. Both EQ and TU report the account opened day and month accurately (Equifax started doing this recently). 3rd party credit pullers may or maynot pull the date opened field accurately, the official credit reports are the only reliable source. It is important to note that the year field in "Date Opened" is affected by your American Express Member Since date, so may not reflect the year the card was originally opened. The only downside is one has to wait for the card to report to EQ and TU first, but Amex is usually very prompt to report.
    c) Before the first statement has been cut, the account opened date is reflected under the Recent Charges field next to the "Since". Example in this pic, the account opened date is Jan 08. The "Since" field changes every statement period as it starts tracking the spending for that statement, so it is a good idea to get the account open date information using this method as early as possible. Existing Amex card members with an online profile are at an advantage to use this method because any new approved cards show in the profile before the card has been delivered physically, displaying several key account details like the account open date, first statement closing date, last 5 digits of card etc. First time Amex card members should try to setup the online profile as early as possible after physically receiving the card(s) to take advantage of this method as the first statement can sometimes close very soon after receiving the card(s). 
    Example calculation of 1st eligibility date taking the above screenshot as an example (Account opened : 01/08/2013). The account will complete 60 days on March 9, 2013 based on the following calculations:
    Number of days by January 31 : 23
    Number of days by February 28 : 28
    Number of days by March 9 : 9
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