Scrap scenario

Hi Guys,
My client wants to post the scrap and sell it. we are using REM.
scenario is
1) subcontracting - metal sheet will be sent to vendor and it will comeback in different size along with the scrap (vendor sends back the scrap getting generated during the operation)
2)operation scrap & component scrap
I have gone through many threads but iam not sure about the process like...
in MFBF i can select the scrap option and post it
Mb1a i can issue the scrap using 551
using MB1B i can just transfer the material to the scrap storage location (only for component scrap)...which one is ideal??
how can i proceed?
Thanks,
SRK

IF U Maintain a Scrap % In Operation , U could n't able to sell
Thats why mr Guru asked to create a Material code for the scrap with Scrap Value and maintain a - ve qty In BOM
and tick the backflush indicator and assign it into routing. when U confirm the operation, go to goods movement, U can change the qty as per the actual and post the scrap, scrap will update the stock and U can sell.
maintain scrap % in Operation is only used for planning.
regards,
Sundaresan

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