Scrap in copa by customer,country....CO-PA costing based scenario

Hi expert,
I have a question. In KE30 I have value field for scrap with an amount and my user want to see this amount splitted by customer, but if I select customer I donu2019t have any value linked, all the value is not assigned to char custumer
The pp order that generate this scrap is linked to an SD order, so I think that there should be the link with customer.
I have seen that Profitability Segment Characteristics KNDNR Customer is created and in transaction KEDR I have the following:
In step 13, Table lookup Sort field from Customer, in detail:
Definition :
Source fields for table lookup
KNA1 KUNNR Customer Number 1 =CO-PA KNDNR Customer
Assignment of table fields to target fields
KNA1 SORTL Sort field =CO-PA SORTL Sort field
Condition : Nothing
Attribution : Nothing
what i shoud do or check to have scrap by customer as detail in my report. I also would like to see the value field splitted by country , continent...etc all this char are already created and mentioned in KEDR.
i have more then one comany code.
thanks

Hi,
how could i be sure that scrap are charged on PP? If i look at ke24 and i select value field for scrap i can see from orign data the PP order and SD order.
In Characteristics of copa doc in Customer related chars i have the following filed mentioned but empty:
Customer
Country
Customer group
Sales Group
Sales Office
If i enter a new rule of derivation how can i update the historical data? to see all old scrap assigned to the characteristics of customer, country....ecc there is a tcode for update?
For country i have found already this derivation rule:
Source field:
CO-PA LAND1 Country Key
target fields
CO-PA WW030 Continent
why it doesn't work? if i have more company code should i enter them in folder condition of the derivation rule step?

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