Sell vendor stock (Consignment fill-up) to clients
Dear mates,
I have a complicated business requirement. I have special stock(K) of vendor consignment (for sample X ) and I want to sell this stock to a client (for sample Y).
I looking for this scenario in a lot of forums but i do not get any answer or solution.
Anyone have some idea to do it?
Regards and thanks a lot,
Isaac
Dear Isaac,
System should convert vendor stock into unrestricted stock (Business owned) in back end and then posts the goods issue (Mvt Type 601) for the sales order created for customer at the time of PGI .
From FICO side a new line item will be created against vendor payments.
Business clears the vendor payment through standard vendor payment process.
Just think whether this idea may of any help for you.....
Regards,
Jameer
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Using Consignment Stock and filling up an unrelated Sales Order
Hi there,
Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but I have an issue that I hoped SCN may be able to resolve.
We have a client for whom we hold Stock in our warehouse location. We fill up this stock using SAP Sales Orders (at 0 revenue) to maintain levels to satisfy need.
When the client puts in a stock request, they do so using our front end quoting engine which is integrated with SAP, and effectively drives the client invoice. This sends through picking and shipping requests to our warehouse who immediately action the stock holding to satisfy the request, creating Outbounds against the stocking order(s).
At a later stage the quoting engine creates a Sales Quotation in SAP which is then converted to a Sales Order. In order to reconcile the Order and the shipments, the Stock Order Outbounds are then reversed, and re-issued against this new (unrelated) Sales Order, and then we can move to invoice.
Step by Step, the process broadly looks as follows:
- Order Stock via 'Sales Order (1)'
- Pick and Deliver Stock (Outbounds are created against Stock 'Sales Order (1)')
- Process the client request and create 'Invoice Sales Order (2)'
- Reverse the Outbounds against Stock 'Sales Order (1)' and link these to 'Invoice Sales Order (2)'.
- Process to Invoice.
I am trying to determine if there is a more efficient means of processing this requirement, and whether consignment stock can help us here. From what I have read, I am assuming that for consignment stock a saleable YKE can only be created against an existing YKB. For the model that we are trying to operate, ideally we need a solution where we can Associate the YKB items to YOR, or perhaps achieve the following:
- Order Stock via 'Sales Order (1)'
- Move this Stock into a "Bucket"
- Pick and Delivery this stock out of the "Bucket"
- Transfer the delivery over to the 'Invoice Sales Order (2)' when required.
I'd welcome any suggestions here to helps us optimise the process.
Many thanks,
Alexander.Hi Alexander ,
Yes ofcourse you can use consignmentment Process
and you can use the concept of special stock partner in the partner profile
Spoecial stock partner (SB) can assign to your ship to party
1stly you can do consignment fill up( with your customer name (ex-2316)
then at the time of creating the consignment issue parter function use 2361 customer
Regards
Ramesh -
Excise Transaction Type for consignment fill up / stock transfer
Hi
When i post excise invoice on account of removal due to sales (through J1IIN), SAP pulls uses DLFC excise transaction type. Following entry is posted at the time of J1IIN:
Excise Duty paid A/c.. Dr
To Excise Duty payable (Basic + ECess + SHEC)
My requirement is, when i post excise invoice on account of removal due to consignment or stock transfer, SAP should pass following entry:
Excise Duty paid on consignment A/c.. Dr
To Excise Duty payable (Basic + ECess + SHEC)
Excise Duty paid on stock transfer A/c.. Dr
To Excise Duty payable (Basic + ECess + SHEC)
For this, i will have to create different GL accounts and assign it to "CENVAT SUSPENSE" in excise transaction type table.
But i does not know which excise transaction type does SAP uses for consignment fill up and stock transfer. Please suggest.1.basic settings-create subtransaction type.
create subtransaction type
cf-consignment fillup
st-stock transfer
2.account determination- Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction
copy DLFC and name it as DLFC and cf and also st.
3.account determination-Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction
copy dlfc and maintain DLFC and subtransaction type cf and also st.
change the gl account for cenvat suspense for st and cf combination. -
Credit Limit should be consumed in consignment fill up
Hi
We a consignment sale scenario. We send some goods to our consignment agent. These agents are created as customers in SAP.
When i do consignment fill up (i.e. when i send goods from my stores to consignment agent), there is no FI accounting entry posted in SAP.
My client requires that, my credit limit should get used at the time of consignment fill up itself.
As far as i have worked on credit management, credit limit is used when customer A/c, is debited. But in above scenario, there is no debit to consignment agent account.
Please suggest how to handle this scenario.Hi Meenu,
Credit limit for consignment fill up is not standard requirement,because the owner ship of the material is still with you.Credit limit
can be triggered at consignment issue,where the owner ship of the material is changing.
System didn't consider at fill up due to the special stock indicator at VOV7 for item category.
Regards
Ram -
Consignment Fill up Process(with Bebit and credit entries)
Hi all,
I want to do following entries in consignmen Fillup process.
1)consignmen Fillup:-
Goods on sale consignee Cr.
Consignment Agent Dr.
since proforma invoice is gets created in Fill up process, shall i configure cmercial invoice instead of Proforma?
Reg,
amolshall i configure cmercial invoice instead of Proforma?
Before answering this question, I would like you to answer to the following
a) What do you mean by consignment fill-up
b) Under what circumstances, you can raise a commercial invoice
If you know answer to the above questions, posting this thread would not have arised.
Anyway, my explanation goes here
Consignment fill up is nothing but you move your own stock from one place to another place. Once you moved the stock, that stock will be earmarked for the end customer and it cannot be diverted to another customer. Now tell me, for moving the stock from one place to another, will you generate commercial invoice ??
You can very well put these questions with your client so that you will find a solution.
G. Lakshmipathi -
Consignment Fill up order to be cancelled
Dear Friends,
My client had issues a Consignment Fill up order, and goods were sent to the Agent. But in between truck met with an accident and goods came back to the factory.
In this case, where goods are not reached to the Customer as part of the consignment fill, what should we do?
Should we create Consignment returns with reference to the Consignment Fill up OR Cancel the the Fill up order???
Please assist.
Regards
Trupti DeulkarHello Trupti,
If the stock which is transfered to customer consignment via fill up order is lying in customer consginment in stpck overview, then it makes sense to create consignment pick up order, ( which is transferring the stock from consignment back to plant stock unrestricted use.
You need to create consignment pick up order (KA- Order type), with item category as KAN. This wil pick up movement type 632 and stock can be taken back in unrestricted use.
As consignment fill up is not relevant for billing/ invoicing, so as like consignment pick up which is alos relevant for billing.
I forgot to add, nit to go for consignment return, as it is relevant for billing, whereas you have just managed to fill the customer consignment stock via fill order ( mvt type 631), but still the owner ship lies with you, as cosnisgnment fill up is also relevant for biling.
Easy solution is to go for consignment pick up order.
BR,
Tushar
Edited by: Tushar Patankar on Feb 4, 2011 12:19 PM -
Consignment Fill up vallid for accounting document
Hello,
I want to create accounting document during Goods issue in Consignmentt Fill up.
Actually We want to bill customer at time of consignment fill up.
Please suggest for required settings for the same.
Regards
AmitDear Amit
Conceptually and Practically also consignment fill up order is not supported with commercial billing and when the consigement fill up stocks move out of a manufacturing plant to make excise invoice we create proforma invoice in consignment fill up and proforma invoice doesnot update or impact accounting
Hope this clarifies your doubt
If you sell a customer a material A on consignment fill up say 100 units that means you are keeping your valuated stocks at his premises thinking that he will use that and so that we can make sale
This is consignment fill up no commercial invoice the ownnership belongs to us
If he takes 50 units out of this then it is Consignment issue this is supported by commercial billing as we make a sale here
The balance 50 units is taken thro Consignment pickup again there is no commercial billing here as we take back our stocks only no sale
Suppose after some time the customer returns 5 units which was sold thro Consignment issue then it is Consignment returns which is supported with commercial billing as we give credit memo for that 5 units
Regards
Raja -
Direct Drop Shipment for Consignement fill Up.
I am trying to Map a business Process for Cross Company Consignment fill-up.Company A receive Sales Order..On Receipt of Order,Company A placed Stock Transport Order to Company B.Company B will ask his Vendor to hand over the material as Consignment .I am facing some problem with this Process. Can any one share his experience in the Consignment Process?
ThanksHi,
u have misudnerstood the process. It is actually 3rd pary sales..follow these steps
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
Reward points if useful,
Regards,
Anbu -
PO Number Check on an Inter-Company Consignment Fill-up Order
Hi Gurus,
I am working on an Inter-Company Consignment Fillup Scenario. When i create an order in CRM the order is error free. Upon replication i get an error. The error message is
Purchase order "TEST PO" does not exist in the system (see long text) (Notification E V1 583) - TEST PO is the PO entered.
The requirement is to enter any PO and ECC should not check if a Purchase Order exists for the PO entered in ECC.
This was working before we applied support packs in our environment 10 days back.
Well we do not create orders in ECC, if i try to create one in ECC the error is
Purchase order Test PO does not exist in the system
Message no. V1583
Diagnosis
You are creating an order for a consolidated company and must eliminate internal business volume. For this reason, the system tries to determine if the related purchase order exists. This is not the case, however.
Procedure
Enter the relevant purchase order number
Thanks,
Kiran AV<b>Consignment Cycle:</b>
1. Consignment fill up:
Sales document type is KB
Item category KBN
schedule line category 1
In this step, you are not invoicing the customer. document flow is sales order -
delivery item category. It will not be relevant for billing and pricing because you are not charging money for these goods in this step.
In schedule line category, you will set movement type 631 & set for availability check and TOR.
2. Consignment Issue.
Once the customer informed you that he used all the goods or partial goods then you will create consignment issue for used goods.
Sales document: KE
Item category: KEN
schedule line category: C0 or C1
Here you are invoicing the customer(because he used the goods). you are assigning the delivery document and billing document to the sales document.
In item category, you are setting relevant for billing, pricing, special stock.
In schedule line category, your setting is 633 movement type, relevant for availability check & TOR.
3. Consignment Return:
Customer found that some goods are damaged or he not able to sold the goods he want to send it back. that you are creating this document.
Sales document type: KR
Item category: KRN
You will assign delivery document and billing to sales document. you will create return order, return delivery, return billing.
Your setting item category relevant for billing, returns, pricing, special stock.
Your setting schedule line item category: 634 movement type, NO availability NO TOR.
4. Consignment Pick up:
Even if you create the consignment return the goods are not come to direct to your plant. For that you need to create consignment pick up. here the owner ship is not changing so you do not need to create billing.
Assign return delivery to sales document type.
Sales document: KA
Item category: KAN
Regards,
Rajesh Banka -
How to payment the vendor against consignment PO
HELLO EXPERTS,
Can anybody help me how to PAYMENT my vendor against consignment PO. Because when i m doing a consignment PO,it is not taking any price ,than i go for GR and MIRO.
but in MIRO ,in PO purchase order reference when i give purchase order , it is coming that No (suitable) item found for purchase order
can any body tell me how to payment this vendor and how n where to give pricing value of that PO.
PLZ TELL ME ALL THE CUSTOMIZING IN DETAILS.
regards.Hi
A warehouse can contain stocks owned by variousconsignment vendors. Settlement is based on the
material withdrawn from the consignment stock.As a result, Inventory Management and Invoice
Verification must fulfill special requirements.To support the procurement process for consignment
material, you can define conditions for consignment processing that are valid for specific periods. You
can enter these conditions in foreign currencies and include alternative units of mea-sure. For inventory
postings (for example, postings made for deliveries, good issues, confirmations for run schedule headers) and in the relevant preparatory phases, the system can suggest the stocks from which to withdraw material. In the strategies used for stock selection, you can have the system take both your
companys own stock as well as the vendor consi gnment stock into consideration.The R/3 System provides enhanced functionality for settling consignment liabilities. To make the process more transparent to the vendor, you can create consignment settlement documents and send them
to the vendor.
refer to link www.scribd.com/doc/2229268/MM-2-009-Consignment -
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/33/222138c2ebcc46e10000009b38f842/frameset.htm -
How to back date for schedule line date of Consignment Fill-Up
Hi,
There are available stock for the material used. In VA01 of order type KB - Consignment Fill-up, I put in a backdated schedule line date (example: 09.09.2008). However, the system automatically proposed a new schedule line date of today's date (example: 13.10.2008).
How can I remain the backdated date with confirmed qty instead of today's date?
Thanks.Hi Wooi Ling
when system is not able to confirm the schedule lines, the system would give a proposal date on which the requirement can be met.
in this case ,you can do one thing , you can set the indicator " Fix date and quantity " in the item schedule line. this would fix the date and the quantity for delivery and the schedules lines.
this would also mean the customer accepts the delivery and quantity confirmed by the system, The system then passes on MRP requirements so that the confirmed date and quantity can be met.
hope this helps
thanks
akasha -
Hi,
In consignment fill up, how to configure the process so that a customer will not get unlimited quantities of material. Since this transaction is not billable, credit check will not take place here.
Thanks
Prasad1. Consignment fill up:
Sales document type is KB
Item category KBN
schedule line category 1
In this step, you are not invoicing the customer. document flow is sales order -
delivery item category. It will not be relevant for billing and pricing because you are not charging money for these goods in this step.
In schedule line category, you will set movement type 631 & set for availability check and TOR.
2. Consignment Issue.
Once the customer informed you that he used all the goods or partial goods then you will create consignment issue for used goods.
Sales document: KE
Item category: KEN
schedule line category: C0 or C1
Here you are invoicing the customer(because he used the goods). you are assigning the delivery document and billing document to the sales document.
In item category, you are setting relevant for billing, pricing, special stock.
In schedule line category, your setting is 633 movement type, relevant for availability check & TOR.
3. Consignment Return:
Customer found that some goods are damaged or he not able to sold the goods he want to send it back. that you are creating this document.
Sales document type: KR
Item category: KRN
You will assign delivery document and billing to sales document. you will create return order, return delivery, return billing.
Your setting item category relevant for billing, returns, pricing, special stock.
Your setting schedule line item category: 634 movement type, NO availability NO TOR.
4. Consignment Pick up:
Even if you create the consignment return the goods are not come to direct to your plant. For that you need to create consignment pick up. here the owner ship is not changing so you do not need to create billing.
Assign return delivery to sales document type.
Sales document: KA
Item category: KAN -
Plants Abroad set up for consignment fill up
Hi,
We have scenario for Plants Abroad. There will be Consignment fill up process within EU from country to other.
There is need for VAT posting in Proforma Invoice for Consignment Fill up.
I would appriciate if any one let me know how Pricing can be set up,Will that tax posting (if we take MWST condition type) will be nullify with another tax condition.
Is there any documents or white paper avaialable for Plants Abroad -Consignment Fill up scenario for Pricing set up.
Looking forward for response asap.Thanks.Hi Akshay
You can use consignment process as available in Std SAP. If u dont want to VAT postings to be updated till material is sold then u can have different account key and can post tax amount to intermediate account such as VAT payable and then at the time of consignment issue u can have different account key and can update actual tax account .
consult with your FI collegue ,this is process generally followed in stock transfer but u can modify it to use for your consigment posting.
revert if u want to discuss further
Regards
Mandar -
Picking from warehouse for Consignment Fill Up
Dear Friends,
For the Consignment Fill Up flow , I am not able to create a transfer order for the delivery.
I am getting the below error :
Data for storage type search is not defined (A )
But from the same plant, I am able to do picking through transfer order for normal sales order.
Is there any specific setting that needs to be maintained for the Consignment Fill up flow with regard to warehouse setup.
Please advise.
Regards,
HarshDear Harsh,
I'm very sorry, I think I misunderstood your question.
1. You can do outbound delivery (picking+GI) from consignement stock.
2. You have problem when you want to create TO from TR that was created when goods arrived at your WH.
You said you cannot create TO. I guess you can create TO, your problem is that SAP can't find automatically into which bins to move the goods when you process the TR (are creating the TO). Please confirm it.
(you can give the destination storage typr/bin manually)
If your problem is this you can check your settings:
SPRO > LE > WM > Strategies > Storage Type Search (+ S. Section Search + S. Bin S.)
Here you can choose 'Determine search sequence' > Please select the relevant line, that you use for the putaway of normal goods > copy it and write 'K' in 'special stock indicator' field.
I do not know your settings but maybe this information can help you to start to resolve the problem you are facing.
BR
Csaba -
All,
Please help in below mentioned problem on Consignment Fill up Doc...
I have created the sales document for Consignment Fill up as CF.
Created an Item Category for the Same purpose as VBN.
Assigned them together using VOV4. with item group as norm.
Assigned the "CF" to Sales Area.
Defined a Schedule Line category as VO.
Define the Assign Schedule line settings as below:
Item Cat VBN -
MRP Type KD -
Schedule Line VO
Defined the Material with MRP Type as KD and item group as NORM.
Availability check have been defined as KP in material.
Now when i am creating the order then error is coming that item category does not exist. Could u all please let me know where my settings have gone wrong
Thank you in advance,
Regards
Vipin<b>Consignment Cycle:</b>
1. Consignment fill up:
Sales document type is KB
Item category KBN
schedule line category 1
In this step, you are not invoicing the customer. document flow is sales order -
delivery item category. It will not be relevant for billing and pricing because you are not charging money for these goods in this step.
In schedule line category, you will set movement type 631 & set for availability check and TOR.
2. Consignment Issue.
Once the customer informed you that he used all the goods or partial goods then you will create consignment issue for used goods.
Sales document: KE
Item category: KEN
schedule line category: C0 or C1
Here you are invoicing the customer(because he used the goods). you are assigning the delivery document and billing document to the sales document.
In item category, you are setting relevant for billing, pricing, special stock.
In schedule line category, your setting is 633 movement type, relevant for availability check & TOR.
3. Consignment Return:
Customer found that some goods are damaged or he not able to sold the goods he want to send it back. that you are creating this document.
Sales document type: KR
Item category: KRN
You will assign delivery document and billing to sales document. you will create return order, return delivery, return billing.
Your setting item category relevant for billing, returns, pricing, special stock.
Your setting schedule line item category: 634 movement type, NO availability NO TOR.
4. Consignment Pick up:
Even if you create the consignment return the goods are not come to direct to your plant. For that you need to create consignment pick up. here the owner ship is not changing so you do not need to create billing.
Assign return delivery to sales document type.
Sales document: KA
Item category: KAN
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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