Setting up g4 as internal file server

I work for a small company who happens to have a nearly full file server. I have been assigned the task to set up a Dual 867 PowerPC G4 as our main internal file server. The server would serve only internally, providing a place to store our files where anyone in the building can access the file server.
One slight problem: I haven't really got a clue how to do this.
We want the server to contain two (2) 750 GB drives... one mirroring the other automatically.
I contacted Seagate to find out what the biggest hard drive they have for this particular machine and they said 120 GB. They said the bios on a G4 will not allow a 750GB drive. They told me to go to a company called www.attotech.com and get a controller card/host adapter that will provide 48-bit addressing... they said this would bypass the system bios and allow the machine to house larger drives (possibly up to 750 GB).
Anyway... if anyone could give me some direction on this project, it would help out immensely. I just need some instruction on how to set this machine up... what i need to do... what hardware i need, etc. From the ground up, basically.
Please help!!!
Thanks a million!
Machine specs:
-OSx 10.4.8
-Dual 1.2 GHz PowerPC G4
-1 MB L3 cache per processor
-768 MB DDR SDRAM

Maooley,
I am surprised you did not get a response from this post.
I am not sure of the 120GB limit on that G4. I know an earlier version was limited to 80GB, so your info might be accurate. In any event going with a SATA card will definitely improve performance. While you are shopping I would also suggest replacing the internal HD. Drives fail. If this is the original drive then replace it before deploying your new server.
Once you get all the hardware in place you can mirror the internal drives with Disk Utility (check out the RAID tab).
You might also consider OS X Server. It's the same core OS but adds a set of services and the tools to managed the server. The 10 client version is $499. The 10 client limits concurrent AFP connections, but all other services are unlimited (SMB, FTP, web, etc)
Often new admins set up a server and give one login to everyone, sometimes with no password. I strongly recommend each user have their own login name and password. This way you can keep track of who is connected, who is creating file, and you can give dedicated server space to each user.
Have you considered backup? I sure hope so. Now that you have the company goods in one place you have the opportunity loose it all in one quick trash session. You also have the opportunity to pack it up and take it offsite site so you can recover from operator error, sabotage, flood, fire etc.

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