Should I get a Zen devi

Hi,
When I first heard about this device, I was seduced by the idea of having a small and cheap super-duper-disc changer. But after reading all the marketing texts, I'm still left with unanswered questions. If there are some kind folks here who could answer them, I would be grateful...
So far, my choice would be a Nomad Zen or a Jukebox 3. My requirements are:
- I want to put my entire CD collection on it (about 520 discs). My calculations tell me that 40 Gb is enough for that.
2 - Most of the time, the device will sit along with my other A/V components and will be connected to my receiver. I can use a "headphone plug to RCA" type of cable to do the connection but is there a better way? Does the device make a good CD-player replacement?
3 - I don't want to keep all my ripped discs on my computer. For one, I don't have the space and, two, I never listen to music on my computer. I want the device to be the primary data store for my music. I will rip a few CD at a time and delete them when they are transfered on the device. Will I have trouble building up my library this way? And, after that, will I have trouble managing my playlists on my "empty" computer?
4 - Speaking of which... I found contradictory informations about playlists. Can I create, modify and delete playlists directly on the device or am I forced to use the computer? Remember that I want to use the device as a disc changer. Every disc changer support a "program" mode. Do I have this feature with the device?
5 - Do you think I'll curse against the small display of the device when it is time to find an album or a tune amongst my 500+ CDs?
Thank you very much for any assistance.

2. I bought my first player, a Nomad Jukebox , to basically replace my car CD changer. It did just that, and I started using it indoors as well, to replace my in-house CD changer. So I can definitely recommend this for this reason. The RCA cable to headphone is really the only thing you can use, but it's not a problem.
3. This approach is fine.
4. You can create playlists on the device, although editing's?a little tedious. With software on the PC you can manage playlists on the player which is far easier, but it depends how complex and how many playlists you are looking to create.
5. I have in the past used my PC to control my player for this reason, using?a program called?Notmad Explorer which shows the entire player in a web browser. Even so, I don't find it difficult to find and queue albums on the player itself.

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